I bought some Berkeley power bait bass attractant.
Use to back in the day my dad always had some scent he squirted in his worm bags don't know that it made a difference but we always caught fish!
Anybody use any, and what do you use?
I make my own plastics and usually cook scent into the bait while pouring as well as squirt scent into the bag when I package them for my outing. Usually if you let them sit in scent oil for 24 hours it will start to impregnate the bait to help keep it on their longer. I personally use JB's Fish Sauce because of all their options.
Glancing over to the right sidebar where sponsors are listed was surprised to see MegaStrike not listed currently a sponsor, that is the sites default answer.
Berkley makes good scent products and should work for you.
Tom
If that bass attractant works half as good as the power bait formula for trout, you will have a winner on your hands. Powerbait (for trout) looks like no natural thing trout would we so they are likely attracted to it by scent and perhaps taste after they hold on.
So, I would expect their bass attractant to function similarly to the power bait. Please share your findings.
I'll be dropshotting nose hooked flukes in the morning around stumps at a private pond, I have a fresh bag of flukes I put several squirts in so we'll see what happens!
We could write books on scent and if it actually does any good.
It boils down to confidence. If you have confidence in using a scent please continue to do so.
However, with that penned, in his book, Knowing Bass, Dr. Keith Jones of Berkeley (Pure Fishing) research labs wrote about scent. To condense what he said boils down to the following as I give you his input as best I can:
Bass have nostrils that allow only certain size molecules to enter the passage. If the scent's molecules are too big then they cannot pass through the nostrils and are worthless.
There is just way too much information in his book on odor and taste sensitivity to continue what he wrote via his studies. However he does list different scents and how the bass react to each in his book.
Dr. Jones gave me the best home made scent formula which I am keeping as a secret until I retire from bass fishing. It is not a nice scent; it is messy to make; you better not make it your kitchen; and it could make you throw up. But Dr. Jones says it is the best one anyone could use and I will try it once again on the Historic James River on November 11th, if the weather allows me to fish my club's last tournament.
So scent boils down to confidence. I have confidence in MegaStrike which I use most of the time unless I am using Dr. Jones' formula in a tournament. But that's just me.
You do realize Dr Jones works for Berkley and developed thier Power Bait formula that has been on the market for decades.
Pure anise oil works very good for bass scent on soft plastic worms and pork rind jig trailers, it's what I always use.
Tom
And I have BERKELEY SCENT!! I bought the secret scent!!!!!
Score for me.
When I fish early in the morning I use coffee scented lures...bass want the caffeine . In the afternoon I use garlic scent, because garlic makes everything better. ????
I use Berkeley Garlic spray on occasion, usually only in cold water conditions tho.
Years ago I used Bang fish attractant in a spray can. I believe it was garlic scent. I couldn't tell it did anything to help me get more bites. I haven't used any scents since then.
On 11/3/2018 at 6:01 AM, WRB said:You do realize Dr Jones works for Berkley and developed thier Power Bait formula that has been on the market for decades.
Pure anise oil works very good for bass scent on soft plastic worms and pork rind jig trailers, it's what I always use.
Tom
Yep. But Tom, Dr. Jones gave me his secret formula.
As for what scents work best, here is the list from page 57 of his book:
BASS RESPONSE TO COMMON FLAVORS
Worm Extract 100%
Sugar 3%
Garlic 2%
Anise 1%
Salt 3%
Prey Salt Mix 3%
One of my past best bass friends, who passed away, had a secret mixture of anise and Canola oil that he soaked his plastics in the day before he went fishing. He swore by this formula and he was one heck of a fisherman and guide. Really miss him.
Now, to Dr. Jones' publication.
On pages 72 he publishes his study on the effects of adding scent to crankbaits and by far the cranks with scent had more strikes and they have a longer retention in the bass' mouths.
Page 74 notes the scent effects on soft bait retention. Here is what he writes: "Bass are not always the aggressive feeders they are made out to be. Attacks on slow moving soft plastics often come in a series of short pecks with quick release times. As revealed in the probability distributions, less than 20 percent of the strikes on plain, unscented worms result in a bass holding the worm longer than eight seconds. Only 30 percent of the strikes lasted longer than four seconds and fully half ended in less than a second and a half. Adding an attractive scent to the soft plastic does not fully reverse this trend, as some bass continued to only peck at the worm regardless of the scent. However, scent does increase the probability that the bass will hang on longer. More than half the strikes on a scented worm, for instance, were held for close to six seconds. (From Berkley Fish Research data bank; printed with permission from Pure Fishing)"
Interesting, to say the least. Looks like that on average when we get a bite on a scented worm we have a maximum of no more than six seconds to set the hook. This is why we watch the line and keep a finger on the line coming off the reel.
Dr. Jones' book is out of print and copies are very expensive. So if you score a copy get one and sit back for a lot of fantastic information based on Dr. Jones and Pure Fishing's studies.
And once again, it boils down to confidence. If you have confidence in a specific scent, go for it.
MegaStrike 100% of the time.
I've been using this for years on my jig trailers, creatures, and frogs. (Does that make it a craw frog?)
How do they know if a crawfish is sweet and sassy?
Do you feel like it helps or is it just a confidence thing? I used my scent the other day and didn't do any good, does that mean it didn't work? Idk I'm gonna keep on using it and see if I can tell a difference?
I tried a garlic based scent a few times and I swear it made the fish spit it out more than normal .For some reason, most of the fish that take whatever bait I use rarely spit it out anyway.
I have used Liquid mayhem gel scent for years now with great luck, and atlas Mikes gel before that.
To those that say it is confidence, I don’t believe that at all, especially during a tough bite. Between watching panfish not react to a unscented slider grub next to the boat and that same pod attacking the bait after the scent was added told me something.
The best east example was my father in law going fishless for an hour with the same bait while I whacked em, he reluctantly put scent on and had his first hit in 3 casts and fish within 5 minutes.
During tough conditions scent can really be a difference maker.
I like using scents they work, I don’t always use them but they work.
On 11/3/2018 at 9:24 AM, Sam said:
On pages 72 he publishes his study on the effects of adding scent to crankbaits and by far the cranks with scent had more strikes
Knowing this do you add a scent to your hard baits?
On 11/5/2018 at 7:57 PM, Burrows said:I like using scents they work, I don’t always use them but they work.
Knowing this do you add a scent to your hard baits?
I do at times to cranks like a lipless and square bills and have done well. The bummer is I don't have the cut and dried proof that it made a difference like it does on soft plastics, because I generally fish cranks when the fish are active and chasing.
When I do put it on cranks I put it on the top of squarebills and on the nose of lipless in front of the line tie. I want it in areas that see max water pressure so I would get maximum dispersion of the scent. IMO putting scent on the sides of cranks isn't as effective, because I believe they have less water pressure on them.
If I use anything it's MegaStrike. I remember when Fish Formula came out. Seems like everyone was using it, Mr. Dance was pushing it pretty hard.
On 11/5/2018 at 7:57 PM, Burrows said:I like using scents they work, I don’t always use them but they work.
Knowing this do you add a scent to your hard baits?
Only in tournaments.
Use MegaStrike.
Since I set the hook when the bass hits the crankbait I have no idea if the MegaStrike does anything to improve the hook set. But it can't hurt.
On 11/6/2018 at 7:51 AM, Sam said:Only in tournaments.
Use MegaStrike.
Since I set the hook when the bass hits the crankbait I have no idea if the MegaStrike does anything to improve the hook set. But it can't hurt.
Maybe not improve the hookset but probably give it more reason to strike it.
Anise and garlic is only 1% according to Dr. Jones, but 100% of my DD jig bass ate it, glad bass can't read.
Tom
On 11/6/2018 at 8:34 AM, WRB said:Anise and garlic is only 1% according to Dr. Jones, but 100% of my DD jig bass ate it, glad bass can't read.
Tom
Agree. What Dr. Jones found was in a controlled atmosphere in a lab. And we don't know the amount of the anise or garlic he used. He just published what happened during the experiments.
In the real world things can be different or else the bass are hitting the baits because you are a "Bass Magnet"!!!!
Would be nice if the bass would read some books and magazines so they would know what they are supposed to do under specific conditions.
This is what makes bass fishing so much fun. Anything goes while nothing goes.
Can drive you nuts.
I use Megastrike from time to time and I do believe it makes fish hold lures a bit longer. In the case of panfish, I have landed several of them without them being hooked, they just grabbed the tail of a Ned Rig and refused to let go. The Zman Zlinkers get super spongy once the salt washes out and if you work the scent into the plastic it lasts a long long time.
I met a guy once who swore by mixing Megastrike with Gulp juice and keeping the un-slated Zman plastics stored in it. I am sure it would work but I am also sure it would be too messy to be worth it.
Chompers Garlic.
Might not work, sure doesn’t hurt.
On 11/5/2018 at 8:58 AM, NittyGrittyBoy said:How do they know if a crawfish is sweet and sassy?
Do you feel like it helps or is it just a confidence thing? I used my scent the other day and didn't do any good, does that mean it didn't work? Idk I'm gonna keep on using it and see if I can tell a difference?
I'm not sold that it "attracts" bass, but I think they do hold onto the bait longer when you use it.
I do like the theory of the bass holding on longer, it gives the angler a greater window to detect a sometimes subtle bite.
But the cons; what if the bass don't like the flavor, like I don't like sardines and just spits the bait out instead of holding on to it?
The whole "what if" theory! Thanks for the input guys it does give me things to chew on. Pun intended
I'll swear by the Berkley power worms.
FM
Sex Panther, 60% of the time it works everytime.
Allen
Don't worry Im still here. I have been taking a little bit of a sabbatical. I am actually fried. I am trying to figure out this fishing industry. I never seen anything like it. I try to keep everything MADE IN THE USA- honestly no one cares- I try to stay 2 steps ahead of everyone else. Working with all of the big box stores had gotten so difficult. its such BS- TW is still the best- So we aren't going anywhere. Ive got my 3 new baits coming out soon- Glenn gets none
On 11/6/2018 at 9:46 PM, fishwizzard said:I have landed several of them without them being hooked, they just grabbed the tail of a Ned Rig and refused to let go.
I gotta be honest, I thought this was bs. Drug two dink bass out of the water hanging off the tail of a swim senko this weekend. Wow.