Senkos not used in Eite series events?! 2024
juicebass reply :
I've watched a lot of video from the bass master tournaments, and honestly I never see any of the elite series pros using Senkos.
For one, I've caught a lot of bass on Senkos, From reading the forums in here, so have a lot of other anglers!
But for some reason the pros (even those sponsored by (Yamamoto) don't throw a senko type baits during the big tournaments.
You mostly see jig and power fishing, or if they do throw a plastic, it's a creature type bait, I've never seen anyone win off a senko, So should we all just throw jigs creature baits for soft plastics instead? Recently I have gone away from them to mostly use jigs and creature baits cuz I guess I'm trying to do the same as what seems to work well for the top dogs.
cgolf reply :
I would have to guess it is about efficiency and covering water. A senko or say a Ned rig is a slow presentation and not the most efficient. Then again if your blanking why not slow down.
I will have to watch my magazines to see what they use, I usually don't pay a lot of attention to sponsored guys using sponsor baits.
trick worms reply :
I don't really watch pro fishing, but it might be because senkos aren't known for catching big ones
Jrob78 reply :
A TON of pros throw stickbaits at tournaments. It's not a flashy bait but it puts fish in the boat and does catch big fish. The pros definitely use it.
RyneB reply :
Chris lane won an elite event using a black/blue stick bait. He was also throwing a jig, but those were the 2 baits he used. I don't see them wacky rigging them, but I always see or read about them throwing weighted t rig stick baits.
iabass8 reply :
On 3/30/2016 at 7:29 AM, Jrob78 said:A TON of pros throw stickbaits at tournaments. It's not a flashy bait but it puts fish in the boat and does catch big fish. The pros definitely use it.
x 301+49
They use them all the time.
Mike L reply :
Juice...Dont worry too much about "what seems to work well for the big dogs".
If Senkos catch fish for you then You're the big dog on your home waters.
Mike
whitwolf reply :
On 3/30/2016 at 8:12 AM, Mike L said:Juice...Dont worry too much about "what seems to work well for the big dogs".
If Senkos catch fish for you then You're the big dog on your home waters.
Mike
There's a lot of wisdom in the above post!
J Francho reply :
I think it's cool to have the focus to learn new baits. I've been beaten in many club tournaments by senkos. I throw them, in fact, I keep a rod rigged and ready with one. Makes a killer seal the deal presentation if you miss a bite - especially top waters. I don't really worry too much about what the pros use. I focus on how they use the baits they win with. I try to apply that to the waters I fish.
Kevin22 reply :
Have you watched live coverage? Zona talks about it quite a bit, saying they will not show some angler's lures because the pro asked them not to. If you watch REALY close you will see non-sponsor baits tied on and hidden on the deck. For instance on the classic I saw had an old wiggle wart (assuming old) tied on and hidden in the corner, he is sponsored by megabass and TW has the megabass diving flap slap as his crankbait for the classic. Did he throw the wart and not tell anyone? We will never know.
Same thing happens with the senko... I'm sure every single pro on the tour has a bag of yamamoto senkos in their boat, possibly inside sponsors bags to hide what they really are. I bet you they get used way more than they tell you! Ike once said bass fishing is a game of offense and defense.
Mosster47 reply :
On 3/30/2016 at 7:45 AM, RyneB said:Chris lane won an elite event using a black/blue stick bait. He was also throwing a jig, but those were the 2 baits he used. I don't see them wacky rigging them, but I always see or read about them throwing weighted t rig stick baits.
The last FLW was paced by stick baits. The Top 5 were using them almost exclusively. If the bass are heading to beds or on beds stick baits will be the main bait.
buzzed bait reply :
On 3/30/2016 at 9:14 AM, Mosster47 said:The last FLW was paced by stick baits. The Top 5 were using them almost exclusively. If the bass are heading to beds or on beds stick baits will be the main bait.
beat me to it....
Blues19 reply :
On 3/30/2016 at 9:32 AM, buzzed bait said:beat me to it....
Me too! Bryan Thrift had a post on facebook showing the stickbait he was using. And Jay Yelas said he was throwing the senko as well!
Tim Kelly reply :
John Cox with his senko masterclass.
Bluebasser86 reply :
Alton Jones seems to always catch at least a few of his fish on a YUM Dinger and it's about the only bait he fishes around spawning time.
SDoolittle reply :
On 3/30/2016 at 2:05 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Alton Jones seems to always catch at least a few of his fish on a YUM Dinger and it's about the only bait he fishes around spawning time.
That was my first thought.
kbeeb374 reply :
I was a marshal for Paul Mueller in the St. Lawrence elite series tourney last year and watched him land 3 LM in a row with a wacky rig then later catch two 5 lb smallies with a split shot rigged senko
Munkin reply :
They are trying to compete against other anglers and promote their sponsors is why you don't hear about senkos. Watch what they are using and not what they say they are using to get the truth. Kevin Short did this in one tournament where he said his bait was a Berkley Power Hawg but was clearly using a Zoom Brush Hog.
Allen
the reel ess reply :
There are times I can't keep em off the stick worm and other times I can't buy a bite with them. How3ever, there are some baits I feel I can almost ALWAYS get a bite on.
RB 77 reply :
On 3/30/2016 at 2:05 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Alton Jones seems to always catch at least a few of his fish on a YUM Dinger and it's about the only bait he fishes around spawning time.
This. In regards to his Elite win On St Johns River: " He said his primary lure of the week was a 6-inch Junebug-colored Yum Dinger; it was the bait that brought him all his fish heavier than 4 pounds. Junebug is the color he automatically ties on when fishing in Florida".
RichF reply :
I don't think I've seen Jones throw anything but a senko.
BassThumb reply :
Bass fishing is not immune to pro sponsorships and endorsement deals. I can't blame these guys for lying to sell baits. It's how they make a living.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
PROmotion and PROsports go hand in hand. We see what they want us to see and that's ok , otherwise there's nothing to see.
primetime reply :
On Toho they were all throwing a Gambler beast stick bait on 1/4 ounce bullet weight...same on the Big O...thick stick worms with 1/4-3/8 weights, guys are now punching stick worms more than in the past...Starting to become popular, same as the big 7" size worked subsurface like a subwalk....
They get used plenty, just not in the same way we all do since they are usually covering water and looking or 5 good strikes, a drop shot is just more efficient if they are going to go light I guess, they can drag it faster at the right depth the entire time..If they find them in practice I would imagine guys pick apart areas with an unweighted stick worm....if it works, it works for everyone, but I notice that most guys fish them on weights more often then not it seems, and they try not to peg if possible....
the Yum Dinger is becoming popular for punching due to the hook slot...black and blue or junebug is all anyone fishes down here...6" Dinger, 3/8-1/2 ounce weight does the job, gets through mats that most guys have to use over an ounce....
We don't see it since they already sell enough stick baits...but can only make so many new sticks...creatures can be altered to sell more baits each year but they use the same stuff that works for us...
Incheon Basser reply :
Stick baits are used on the Elite Series. I'd post pics but I'm not allowed.
juicebass reply :
On 3/31/2016 at 1:25 PM, primetime said:On Toho they were all throwing a Gambler beast stick bait on 1/4 ounce bullet weight...same on the Big O...thick stick worms with 1/4-3/8 weights, guys are now punching stick worms more than in the past...Starting to become popular, same as the big 7" size worked subsurface like a subwalk....
They get used plenty, just not in the same way we all do since they are usually covering water and looking or 5 good strikes, a drop shot is just more efficient if they are going to go light I guess, they can drag it faster at the right depth the entire time..If they find them in practice I would imagine guys pick apart areas with an unweighted stick worm....if it works, it works for everyone, but I notice that most guys fish them on weights more often then not it seems, and they try not to peg if possible....
the Yum Dinger is becoming popular for punching due to the hook slot...black and blue or junebug is all anyone fishes down here...6" Dinger, 3/8-1/2 ounce weight does the job, gets through mats that most guys have to use over an ounce....
We don't see it since they already sell enough stick baits...but can only make so many new sticks...creatures can be altered to sell more baits each year but they use the same stuff that works for us...
Great response. So true on the altering creature baits!
burrows reply :
I think their should be some kind of fine or penalty for a pro that lies about what they are throwing when they win a big tournament specially the classic. I feel that it's just straight out wrong and dishonest some sort of punishment should be given.
Jrob78 reply :
On 4/2/2016 at 6:29 AM, crankzilla said:I think their should be some kind of fine or penalty for a pro that lies about what they are throwing when they win a big tournament specially the classic. I feel that it's just straight out wrong and dishonest some sort of punishment should be given.
Who is lying about baits they use? Why on Earth would that deserve a fine or penalty? This makes no sense.
RichF reply :
On 4/2/2016 at 6:29 AM, crankzilla said:I think their should be some kind of fine or penalty for a pro that lies about what they are throwing when they win a big tournament specially the classic. I feel that it's just straight out wrong and dishonest some sort of punishment should be given.
I think there should be penalties handed out to anyone who uses a senko in a tournament hahahah!
mrmacwvu1 reply :
On 4/2/2016 at 9:42 AM, RichF said:I think there should be penalties handed out to anyone who uses a senko in a tournament hahahah!
there is in my tournament
it is usually placing in the money or big fish
then my buddies and I go to the bar and spend our winnings
the penalty is when we get home to the wives
burrows reply :
On 4/2/2016 at 7:01 AM, Jrob78 said:Who is lying about baits they use? Why on Earth would that deserve a fine or penalty? This makes no sense.
I was talking about some of the earlyer post. But whatever brother.
hoosierbass07 reply :
On 3/30/2016 at 6:53 AM, juicebass said:I've watched a lot of video from the bass master tournaments, and honestly I never see any of the elite series pros using Senkos.
For one, I've caught a lot of bass on Senkos, From reading the forums in here, so have a lot of other anglers!
But for some reason the pros (even those sponsored by (Yamamoto) don't throw a senko type baits during the big tournaments.
Yep, I've been on this site for more than a few years now and it seems if there is one brand/lure question that comes up more than others, it's the Senko/stick bait lure. I'm a follower and devote of soft plastics worms/stick baits. I also wonder, when I watch the Pros competing on TV, why aren't they using the Texas Rig worm or soft stick bait or split-shot soft plastic or weightless soft plastic? I think something funny is going on. In my opinion, the lure companies what to sell their hard baits/other lures as well as their soft plastics, so they make the Pros use those crankbaits/big jigs/etc...
So its basically a sales job. We all know soft plastics are superior to anything else. The lure companies want you to think crankbaits/spinnerbaits/top water catches as many fish/big fish as well as the soft plastics do. At least in my fishing time, I've found the Yum-Dinger almost superior to anything else I use.
Gundog reply :
Last year I got a chance to see the saturday weight-in for a BASS tourney at Cayuga Lake in upstate NY. I walked around the dock when the boats were there and most of the boats that I could see had at least one rod with a senko style bait on it. I'm one of those guys that likes to see what the pros use as far as gear and lures. I agree with some of the posts that the lure doesn't get the attention because it isn't flashy and maybe some pros don't have a sponsor that makes that lure.
flyfisher reply :
On 3/30/2016 at 2:05 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Alton Jones seems to always catch at least a few of his fish on a YUM Dinger and it's about the only bait he fishes around spawning time.
when he won the classic i believe it was the main bait too.
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 4/3/2016 at 9:48 PM, flyfisher said:when he won the classic i believe it was the main bait too.
He actually used a jigging spoon and a jig to win the Classic at Hartwell. He mainly used a jig at Grand this year also. He's a slow, soak the bait kind of guy, so a senko suits him well.
flyfisher reply :
You're right, I am thinking of another tournament he won on the St John's river i believe.
Jrob78 reply :
On 4/3/2016 at 10:29 PM, flyfisher said:You're right, I am thinking of another tournament he won on the St John's river i believe.
You're right, that's the one I remember too.
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 4/3/2016 at 10:29 PM, flyfisher said:You're right, I am thinking of another tournament he won on the St John's river i believe.
Yep, he won that one sight fishing and blind casting a 6" Junebug YUM Dinger.
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