Another Strike King Wonder Blunder! 2024
Hooligan reply :
Thought this was pretty amusing. I've been waiting for KVD 1.5, as well as Silent Cranks in bluegill since early in February. I found a couple in bluegill in my travels, but never the 1.5. Finally got it today. What do you see is funny in the picture? Not that it really matters, but it really is pretty funny. (I'd post the three 2.5 models I have but they're not at hand. All of them are painted the correct way.)
FL_Sharpshooter reply :
Don't doubt the color, it's my go-to for cranks these days, I'm slaughtering them in the canals with that bluegill color 
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Hooligan reply :
Oh bluegill is far and away the best color for me. It's just funny that the 1.5 isn't finished all the way. Like I said, it doesn't matter at all, I'm sure, but it sure is amusing to see!
intheweeds reply :
Wow, that is funny. I just bought the 2.5 and the 1.5 in bluegill and they both look like that. I didn't even know that it wasn't finished because all of them on the rack looked like that.After I read your post I went to BPS to look at them and sure enough, they for got the scales. I wonder if Strike King even knows. Oh well, I will still fish them. Who knows maybe they will work better. 
Hooligan reply :
Yeah, there are no stripes, the range is missing, the greens on the body is missing, and the blue is missing on the head.
JaxBasser reply :
Mine that I just bought is the same way. Catches lots of fish though.
Oh and nice mouse lol. I have the MX-518, best gaming mouse ever!
intheweeds reply :
I just went and looked at the BPS website again and the KVD 1.5 and 2.5 do have the stripes. I am pretty sure that the ones I bought are a mistake. I just asked Strike King about it on their Facebook page. We will see what they say.I like Strike King, they are a great company and if the cranks are defective I am sure they will make it right.
Hooligan reply :
On 4/24/2011 at 11:36 AM, LilJakeC1 said:Looking at all of the pics on Bass Pro's website, I have came to the conclusion that the KVD Square Bills are supposed to be like that. If you compare the KVD Square Bills to the other SK cranks, they are different from the others.
I beg to differ. They're finished in the catalog, my 2.5's are painted exactly like the deep divers, and the 1.5s at bass pro are now "finished." I called over to ask one of the guys earlier today.
Like I said, I'm not upset in the least. I like the baits, and dig the company. The little goof is pretty darned funny though.
Bluebasser86 reply :
That looks more like a shad color than a bluegill from the picture. I'm sure it will work but if I was wanting a bluegill imitation I think I'd be a little irritated. 
Sam reply :
That bait may be a collectors item in a few years.
Save it for your retirement!!!! 
ww2farmer reply :
I hate to burst all you experts bubbles, but the KVD bluegill color IS NOT supposed to be the same as the pro-series/red eye shad bluegill color. If you have a KVD in the pro series bluegill I sure would like to see pictures of it.
intheweeds reply :
I am not claiming to be an expert. I may be wrong here, but here is a picture of the bait from BPS. Number 22 is the bluegill color. This is the bait that I bought at Dick's and it looks nothing like the one on the BPS sight. Mine looks just like the picture that Hooligan posted. Unless I am wrong, the KVD Square billed silent running 1.5 crankbait in bluegill color that I bought appears to not look the same as the one on the BPS website. If I am wrong then I stand corrected.
http://www.basspro.com/Strike-King-KVD-Square-Bill-Silent-Crankbaits/product/10209675/-1735446?cmCat=CROSSSELL_THUMBNAIL
intheweeds reply :
I can't seem to find any SK cranks on line that look like the one I have. However I did find this at TW.
Notice what it says about the colors. I still think that is a pretty drastic variance in the color scheme.
http://www.***.com/Strike_King_KVD_HC_Square_Bill_Silent_Crankbait/descpage-SKKVDHC.html#multiview
ww2farmer reply :
Are you kidding me? The bluegill color at TW is the SAME as the one at BPS. I bought my bluegill KVD's at Dicks, guess what.............they are the same as shown at TW and BPS. I don't know what you guys are thinking you see, but I don't get it. 
intheweeds reply :
BIG M reply :
This is a tough thread to follow. Post a profile pic of the bait to show what part of the color pattern is missing.
Hooligan reply :
I will. Farmer, they are indeed supposed to be the same color. The reason the color was introduced was because of the KVD1.5 and the Silent Stalker. They're the exact same in the SK catalog.
ww2farmer reply :
I will not comment any more untill I see pictures of KVD Bluegill 1.5's and 2.5's painted the same color FROM SK as the Pro Series,Silent Stalker, and Red Eye shad bluegill pattern. I know they are different, and AFAIK thats the way they are ment to be, the KVD's have the black kill dot and the others do not.
Hooligan reply :
On 4/25/2011 at 8:24 AM, ww2farmer said:I will not comment any more untill I see pictures of KVD Bluegill 1.5's and 2.5's painted the same color FROM SK as the Pro Series,Silent Stalker, and Red Eye shad bluegill pattern. I know they are different, and AFAIK thats the way they are ment to be, the KVD's have the black kill dot and the others do not.
That's fine. I'll get pictures tomorrow to show you what I mean in terms of the difference.
Hooligan reply :
The gill dot is supposed to be the only difference. They're supposed to have the orange throat and robin's egg blue, as well as the greens on the body and striping. but like you said, I'll get pictures tomorrow...
intheweeds reply :
Just to be fair, I see what ww2farmer is saying. I pulled out my 2.5 and the 1.5 today, the 2.5 has a much more detailed and darker scale pattern and my 1.5 has such a light pattern that I can barley make out the scale pattern. That is where my problem lies. These cranks are different from the other SK cranks (that I knew). So for that part I believe farmer to be right. Maybe all the 1.5 are lighter then the 2.5, I don't know. Sorry for any confusion from my end. I still seems to me that I have a 1.5 that does not look as nice as my 2.5. Sorry, I have no way to post up a picture right now. Anyway it does not matter because I will not argue with farmer on his point, he is right. Sorry Hooligan.
Hooligan reply :
On 4/25/2011 at 8:41 AM, intheweeds said:Just to be fair, I see what ww2farmer is saying. I pulled out my 2.5 and the 1.5 today, the 2.5 has a much more detailed and darker scale pattern and my 1.5 has such a light pattern that I can barley make out the scale pattern. That is where my problem lies. These cranks are different from the other SK cranks (that I knew). So for that part I believe farmer to be right. Maybe all the 1.5 are lighter then the 2.5, I don't know. Sorry for any confusion from my end. I still seems to me that I have a 1.5 that does not look as nice as my 2.5. Sorry, I have no way to post up a picture right now. Anyway it does not matter because I will not argue with farmer on his point, he is right. Sorry Hooligan.
On that part of it I understand what you, and he, is saying, which is why I need to get pictures. The 1.5 I have posted in the picture is not a finished bait. Even on the BPS paper catalog it is different than the bait shown in my first picture. Doesn't matter, really, everything I've been told from everyone I've talked to has said there were a bunch of 1.5s that went out without being finished. From the looks, this is one of them.
I'll also refer you to the 2011 Catalog from Strike King. They don't state a color difference in the cranks, as they do with other "special" colors or attributes. http://www.strikeking.com/documents/2011_SK_catalog.pdf
CWB reply :
The 1.5 and 2.5 in bluegill are translucent, like a few other colors. This is not a mistake. The catalog shows the color bluegill as "coming soon" There is a picture of it in a redeye shad. It is translucent also. It looks different in a picture than it does when you see it up close. The 3 other baits in the original picture are not bluegill color. Great bait in a great color.
Hooligan reply :
On 4/25/2011 at 11:24 AM, CWB said:The 1.5 and 2.5 in bluegill are translucent, like a few other colors. This is not a mistake. The catalog shows the color bluegill as "coming soon" There is a picture of it in a redeye shad. It is translucent also. It looks different in a picture than it does when you see it up close. The 3 other baits in the original picture are not bluegill color. Great bait in a great color.
You're completely wrong about the colors of the baits. All are bluegill, I know this because I can read the package. The translucence has nothing to do with the fact that the 1.5 is missing the blue paint on the nose, the scale pattern, and the green tint on the body.
SwimJigs reply :
I'm pretty sure the 1.5 and 2.5 bluegill color is purposely different than on other SK baits. There is a video on youtube of KVD fishing the 1.5 in bluegill and it looks exactly like the OP's picture. The bait is translucent and when held to the light will show its stripes and scales.
CWB reply :
On 4/24/2011 at 9:25 AM, Hooligan said:Thought this was pretty amusing. I've been waiting for KVD 1.5, as well as Silent Cranks in bluegill since early in February. I found a couple in bluegill in my travels, but never the 1.5. Finally got it today. What do you see is funny in the picture? Not that it really matters, but it really is pretty funny. (I'd post the three 2.5 models I have but they're not at hand. All of them are painted the correct way.)
Please post a picture of the 2.5's and the 1.5 in the same shot. Also, where did you get the other cranks in bluegill color. I haven't found them anywhere and would like to get some. If you think there is a problem, I would contact Strike King as they are pretty responsive and will help you out. See SwimJigs pic. The baits I have look exactly the same but if you put it in water, the stripes appear. If you have a fishtank, drop one in there and look at it.
Hooligan reply :
I am not going to have time to get over to get at my 2.5s so I stopped on my way home and grabbed another 1.5 to show you what I'm talking about and that I'm not blowing smoke.
1.5 in box is brand new, never opened until a few minutes ago.
1.5 out of box is the one I took pictures of the other day.
Hooligan reply :
As to where I found the Cranks I had to order them from BPS.
ww2farmer reply :
Well I guess I'll eat my hat on this one. All my KVD's look like the one with the black dot, and all my Pro Series, Red Eye Shads, and Silent Stalkers look like the one with out the dot.
Hooligan reply :
On 4/26/2011 at 5:51 AM, ww2farmer said:Well I guess I'll eat my hat on this one. All my KVD's look like the one with the black dot, and all my Pro Series, Red Eye Shads, and Silent Stalkers look like the one with out the dot.
No hat eating necessary. I still think the whole thing is funny. Which is right, which is the goof? One of those deals.
BIG M reply :
To me the 1.5 looks more like a shell cracker pattern and the other bait looks like a blue gill. Most custom painters will shoot a shell cracker with more brown on the body and a blue/black head.
Getfished reply :
I was reading on another forum where a guy had a chartreuse/black 1.5 that he just received after waiting for a backorder. He said it came with a red gill plate but wasn't supposed to. Upon closer examination he decided the bait also had slightly different dimensions than one he had bought from BPS immediately after the Classic. The folks over there came to the conclusion that SK farmed the job out to a other producer to meet the demand. Who knows for sure?
Funny thing is I picked up a chartreuse/black 1.5 from BPS right after the Classic and the first thing I did was go home and paint on a red gill plate. LOL ! (gave it a UV coating also).
SausageFingers reply :
I have a couple of the Blue Gill 2.5's. They look just like the picture on TW.
One of my local tackle shops says Strike King won't be able to ship him any of the square bills until late June, early July. It wouldnt surprise me if they farmed out the production to meet the demand.
Hooligan reply :
On 4/26/2011 at 11:19 AM, BIG M said:To me the 1.5 looks more like a shell cracker pattern and the other bait looks like a blue gill. Most custom painters will shoot a shell cracker with more brown on the body and a blue/black head.
The 1.5 that matches the Pro Model cranks is what I would want in a bluegill pattern around here. The greens in the body and the Robin's Egg blue on the head, with the orange throat. The other doesn't look anything like any bluegill or sunfish I've ever seen. In the long run, though, I'm sure it won't matter. It will be close enough that the fish will eat it and that does matter.
madbass reply :
Maybe it's just an illusion in the picture, but the lip looks different. The one without the black dot looks like the edges are beveled a little and the front corners are slightly more rounded. I do like the coloring of that one better. The ones I bought are like the one with the black spot. My airbrush will take care of that though!
Hooligan reply :
On 4/27/2011 at 1:11 AM, madbass said:Maybe it's just an illusion in the picture, but the lip looks different. The one without the black dot looks like the edges are beveled a little and the front corners are slightly more rounded. I do like the coloring of that one better. The ones I bought are like the one with the black spot. My airbrush will take care of that though!
I see what you're saying, and just looked at them again. It's the light in the picture. They're the same.
cigarleaf reply :
This was posted today at another site from a product manager for Strike King lure company.
http://texasfishingforum.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/6110393/all/Fake_KVD_1_5_s
"Folks, I am the product manager for Strike King lure company, and want to address everyone's concerns regarding the KVD squarebills. 1st, I assure you that other than a few "secret colors" KVD always uses off the shelf merchandise just like you and I!!! He is very adamant about all of his signature baits being of the highest quality, and will not endorse a product if it is not....Regarding the red gill plate on the color 535...It was originally spec'd out with the red gill plate, however, the first batch that we got in did not have the red gill plate, and that was the bait he was using in the Classic (because that was all he had). All, of the later production has had the red gill plate, which KVD actually prefers. Regsrding 1st batch, 2nd batch etc etc China vs Costa Rica etc etc....Please see the following: The majority of our hardbait production has come from our Costa Rican facility for the last several years. We switched to that location trying to increase the consisitency and the quality of our hardbaits, and we are very pleased with the results. Now specifically regarding the KVD squarebills: we actually developed both a Chinese manufacturing operation along with our Costa Rican operation. This allowed us to to have ample manufacturing capabilities and to be able to somewhat keep up with the demand. Yes there are some very very subtle differences to the eye, but there are no differences in the quality, how they run, or the fish catching abilities between the baits. All the baits feature the same quality components, from eyes to hooks to hand tuning. I would challenge any of you to find a KVD bait that doesn't run well assuming you haven't cracked it on your trolling motor!!!!!
Regarding the Chinese made baits. These baits are held to the same high standards that we require from our Costa Rica Plant, and in fact, they have even surpassed those expectations in many cases. Also, just so there is no grey area here..IT IS NOT CHEAPER FOR US TO MANUFACTURE OUR PRODUCTS IN CHINA....It is simply another avenue for quality production.
And as always, if you are not happy with a Strike King Product. Please call customer service and let us know. We always have and always will take care of you, because we are fisherman too!!!"
Hooligan reply :
That's cool, and all, but has absolutely no pertinence to the topic at hand. It has nothing to do with two different bluegill colors.
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