I fished a few hours this morning nothing worked today but a 5" weightless texas rigged senko in the black/blue flake color. The water is pretty murky. Visibility isnt much. You can barely see fish swimming in the shallows in most areas. You can see weeds when the sun comes out but nothing else. I threw the senko into weed patches and caught 4 quality fish. They demolished the senko. What other colors you think would produce? Im gonna get some more colors. Ive tried watermelon/red flake, green pumpkin (weeds are the same color) and they didn't touch neither.
There is no all around color for murky water. You got to try different colors and let the fish tell you what they want.
There are plenty of 5+ pound fish swimming around by the dam in 2s or 3s but I don't know what they want. The fish I did catch were 2-3 pounds each and they took off with the senko and didn't let go. Guess I'll look around at dark colors with/without glitter.
Just try out different colors until you find one that works.
i was thinkin about mixing it up and throwing a bubblegum, orange, or another bright colored senko out there and see if they will bite it
As much as I like to throw a Senko - in murky water, I think a lure like the LFT Ring Fry is a better option because of the ridges on the sides of the lure giving off some subtle vibrations that the fish can feel in their lateral lines. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
MY Rules to color selection. 1.Something that stands out(chartreuse or bubblegum, even wtrmln red glitter)- great in muddy water). 2. Something that they can sillouette(bass look up-its where their eyes are, and things that block out the sun, they can define their edges and dimensions, better). Its the reason I think they see dark lures better at night, or in murky water. Then, my favorite reason. 3."Invisibility". Match the environment, its what nature would do. Critters survive by blending in, and so should your bait. Put you bait over the boat and in about 6-8 inches of water. If you can't see it(depending on certain clarities, of course), then its all good. I know it sounds crazy, but don't worry about it, the bass will see it fine. The prey they are hunting is trying to blend, and are much better at it than you can be. Think about these three approaches, and you'll figure it out.
i tried watermelon/red glitter and no bites. switched back to black/blue glitter caught fish. ill look into bubblegum or some other neon color definitely.
On 7/29/2011 at 2:47 AM, Packard said:There is no all around color for murky water. You got to try different colors and let the fish tell you what they want.
Imo this isn't correct. Darker colors in my experience have been proven in murky waters. Junebug black ect.
Black with blue flakes is a great color. Black & red,
watermelon & red and watermelon w/ black flakes are
my other suggestions.
Also, get yourself some Fat Ika.
On 7/29/2011 at 8:29 AM, hookingem said:Imo this isn't correct. Darker colors in my experience have been proven in murky waters. Junebug black ect.
Well I fish murky water and have had most success on a green pumpkin GYCB 4 in Senko. Now most of you wouldn't think this is a murky water color would you.
In my opinion color may make a difference 10% of time. I think its a much smaller piece to the puzzle and does not have as much value as people place on it.
On 7/29/2011 at 10:27 AM, gobig said:In my opinion color may make a difference 10% of time. I think its a much smaller piece to the puzzle and does not have as much value as people place on it.
I agree, Presentation>Shape>Color>Luck
IMO it's bait, presentation, color.
On 7/29/2011 at 12:50 PM, Fat-G said:IMO it's bait, presentation, color.
I disagree because you can have the best tackle money can buy and get easily out fished by someone with one lure and a zebco combo.
Instead of color, think in terms of size. Try the 7" in smoke with black flake.
Push comes to shove, the Fat Ika will kick butt.
On 7/29/2011 at 1:04 PM, Packard said:I disagree because you can have the best tackle money can buy and get easily out fished by someone with one lure and a zebco combo.
I use green pumpkin plastics on all murky waters I fish. That and watermelon. And they both work great. I feel that darker water means darker lures. I carry predominantly green pumpkin and watermelon because they both work for almost all conditions. Clear or murky.
To me presentation comes first but it's almost hand in hand with color. Tackle to me doesn't affect the fish biting, it's just what affects your perception of the fish on your line and your ability to keep them there. I don't see where the zebco combo came up in the bait discussion. If you know your instruments then you can make them work. Zebco is solid in my book. My younger siblings have rocked some fish on their Zeb set ups.
On 7/30/2011 at 12:11 AM, dhami013 said:I use green pumpkin plastics on all murky waters I fish. That and watermelon. And they both work great. I feel that darker water means darker lures. I carry predominantly green pumpkin and watermelon because they both work for almost all conditions. Clear or murky.
To me presentation comes first but it's almost hand in hand with color. Tackle to me doesn't affect the fish biting, it's just what affects your perception of the fish on your line and your ability to keep them there. I don't see where the zebco combo came up in the bait discussion. If you know your instruments then you can make them work. Zebco is solid in my book. My younger siblings have rocked some fish on their Zeb set ups.
ive tried green pumpkin but they are so close to the color of the weeds in the water and no bites. i had better luck on the black/blue flake senkos. i even tried watermelon/red flake & watermelon. i think greens and browns match the weeds where i fish. i wanna try some florescent and black colors.
Think you got a tough call there. I agree that you "need to let this fish tell you" but I think we all have had a day where we throw and throw with the same color and produce nothing...... and then out of nowhere..... bang.... good fish.
Impossible to know if the fish finally got tired of seeing it, wasn't seeing it, or just wasn't there. Be great if the fish, after getting caught could just tell you why he did what he did hahaha. Then we would all be much better fishermen.
I tend to like darker colors in murkier water too, yet that might have more to do with my ideas, then what the fish has in mind. Red flake has always been good to me too. I like flakes in every color.
You using a rattle at all? Maybe that could help draw some attention in the weeds?
well i was thinking about throwing some lipless cranks. i have some firetiger colors and a few days ago i caught 6 good fish on a red shad 10" worm. Same worm, no fish yesterday. only caught them on the black/blue senko. Picky, picky fish!
Sometimes it be like that. Some fish prefer colors because it may resemble their prey more. A lake I fish in Norfolk prefers black and blue plastics and shad colored everything else.
Fish are weird. You'd think that a bait that looks so good to you could never be denied by a fish.
Darker colors... and this is when the old rattle addition is a good choice. For me this is normally tubes.
Also if can find this color This became my go to color Senko Plum Apple. I buy mine from Dicks around my way. Funny how I had a pack of these fro like two years and finally thought to toss it out this year. I was fishing a always murky pond filled with grass and lilies. I decided to wacky in front of the lilies and landed me a 4.9 and a 3.4 that day. Seemed to be only thing that work and color choice also. I did land a small bass on black/blue laminate but for my other colors nothing. I tried purple/emerald flakes(june bug supposedly ), watermelon red, and a few others with no luck. Also I tried frogs, chatterbaits, C-rigs with no luck near the outside of the lilies.
I also landed a 4.8 on plum apple at huntingrun as well. It's definitely my color far as producing but I don't shy away from trying others either. Just as of now been the choice they preferring when I'm out.
Also could be your rigging style as well try wacky next time! If not sure about that style guys like Sam and Wayne P are just a PM away. Great guys with helpful info.
Plum apple looks killer. My local dicks sporting goods has some limited edition colors ill see if I can find that one
On 7/30/2011 at 8:59 AM, Brand0n said:Plum apple looks killer. My local dicks sporting goods has some limited edition colors ill see if I can find that one
If so pick up some please let me know how it goes. Pm or something then! Good luck don't forget trying wacky as well.
I've tried wacky a few weeks ago caught two smaller fish. Might have to get back on it and ill let ya know if I find that color.
On 7/30/2011 at 9:29 AM, Brand0n said:I've tried wacky a few weeks ago caught two smaller fish. Might have to get back on it and ill let ya know if I find that color.
Think of color as a tool to improve your lure's visibility, not as something that can improve your lure's appeal or flavor.
When your location and delivery are incorrect, no color is going to produce a strike.
When your location and delivery are correct, no color is going to prevent a strike.
Roger
like a few others have said, dark colors in murky waters are what does it. i'd stick with your black and blue. also try these out.
Let see. Nothing worked except blak/blue flake Senkos, which caught quality fish! Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, why try anything else?
Junebug or #213.
Alot of lakes and ponds around me are murky, and camo colored senkos work for me.
Senkos work well in murky water(1-3' vis.), but you have to put them right on the fishes' nose. Bass seem willing to move long distances to hit a Senko in clearer water, but that's not so in waters with poor visibility. That's my observation at least. I use black/blue, watermelon/red, white, and chartreuse when the water starts looking like pea soup.
I agree about having to put them right on there noses. It took a good bit of casts to get bites with the color I used and I'm out of that color. That's why I was curious to other good colors so when I buy more senkos ill grab a few colors.
Color is determined by how much light an object reflects back to the eye.
Roughly speaking, when all the light is "reflected", the object appears White.
When all the light is "absorbed", the object appears Black.
When about 50% of light is reflected and 50% is absorbed, the object will be in the green family (Mother Nature's favorite).
Enter the Bugbear:
As the light level is reduced, all colors progressively disappear, like switching off a lamp in a room.
or walking on a green lawn at night. In murky and muddy water, color perception is poor to non-existent,
therefore "contrast" steps up to the plate. The color BLACK provides the most contrast possible,
against all other shades of gray. Colors that are closest to pitch black are right on its heels of black,
colors such as Dark Purple, Junebug, Black Grape, Black & Blue, Black & Any other color.
Roger
Bought a pack of strike king shim e sticks in the watermelon red flake/black flake for $3 @ dicks sporting goods today. They look darker than the image. I've used shim e sticks before and they are durable and catch fish. Grabbed a pack of black blue/flake also. Two for the price of one pack of Senkos
Call me crazy but I've had alott of success in murky waters with strike king.... Sweet tater pie's, color...my all time favorite color, followed by green pumpkin...
Here black and blue is the go-to color for off-color water. It's actually good year round and I almost use it exclusively for soft plastic craws and jigs. If you want to add a little sound to help fish locate the bait you can use a very light sinker with a glass bead between your weight and hook to act as a subtle clacker. If you want it weightless, you can use two glass beads and no sinker. I use black beads.