KVD 1.5 Square Bill Vs. Others 2024
Troy85 reply :
Just curious as to others thoughts. I love to throw a square bill, where I fish is mostly shallow, so I'm almost always throwing a square bill that dives 5' or less. I've pretty much always throw the H2Oxpress square bills that Academy sells. They are usually $3.50 or less, where as the KVD 1.5 is $6-7. My question is, has anyone used a KVD 1.5 vs another off brand, and if so have you seen a noticeable difference in catch rate? Is the 1.5 worth the extra $3-4?
Rpratt reply :
There is no doubt that the KVD square bill is my confidence bait. The only thing I don't like is how easily the hooks get bent or break. So those get changed out quite a bit after a little bit. The only other one that I have used that has caught fish consistently for me is the Berkely squarebills. And their hooks to me seem to be much better.
Pickle_Power reply :
My all-time favorite square bill is the Bomber Square A. They have always been an economical choice, but they seem to be harder to find lately. The 2" version is just right for largemouths, and the 1-5/8" version is great for everything in rivers around here.
blckshirt98 reply :
No Academy stores out here, I like the KVD because they're easy to find and replace when I lose one, and someone usually has them on sale somewhere. If the Academy squarebills are catching you fish, I wouldn't feel the need to spend the extra money.
SloppyJ reply :
I like the SPRO squarebills over the KVD but they both work. I have an issue where the front treble hook likes to get stuck on the bill on the KVD models. I don't have this problem with the SPRO brand.
If I could find the bomber square bills locally, I would buy those instead. I'm a big bomber fan because that's what me and my grandpa used to throw.
TOXIC reply :
I too throw the SPRO Little John Square Bills. I think I have 10 of every color!! Gamakatsu sticky trebles but you do pay for them.
Comfortably Numb reply :
I really like the Acadamy ones. Very similar to KVD and half the price.
LonnieP reply :
I also use SPRO square bills. Pricey but well worth it.
A-Jay reply :
SK KVD 1.5 & 2.5 are big time producers for me in the squarebill world.
But the 6th Sense "crush" line of squarebills (50X, Flat 75X & newer 100X) are also VERY GOOD.
https://6thsensefishing.com/collections/crush-50x
A-Jay
burrows reply :
On 6/22/2018 at 4:34 AM, A-Jay said:
https://6thsensefishing.com/collections/crush-50x
A-Jay
Over rated , what does this 10$ square bill offer me that the 7 $ lucky craft doesn’t offer? Absolutely nothing. Minus the 75X now that bait is worth the extra few bucks.
Sam reply :
On 6/21/2018 at 9:46 PM, Troy1985s said:Just curious as to others thoughts. I love to throw a square bill, where I fish is mostly shallow, so I'm almost always throwing a square bill that dives 5' or less. I've pretty much always throw the H2Oxpress square bills that Academy sells. They are usually $3.50 or less, where as the KVD 1.5 is $6-7. My question is, has anyone used a KVD 1.5 vs another off brand, and if so have you seen a noticeable difference in catch rate? Is the 1.5 worth the extra $3-4?
1. Yes, the 1.5 is an excellent square bill bait.
2. Yes, the Academy H2O square bill bait is excellent.
3. The KVD 1.5 is worth the money.
4. The Academy H2O square bills are worth the money.
Go for both and keep a record as to how they perform.
Russ E reply :
I seem to get hung up a lot less in wood with the KVD 1.5, compared to other squarebills.
If you buy them at regular price they are expensive.
Cabelas usually puts them on sale a couple times a year, for around $3.00.
burrows reply :
On 6/21/2018 at 9:46 PM, Troy1985s said:Just curious as to others thoughts. I love to throw a square bill, where I fish is mostly shallow, so I'm almost always throwing a square bill that dives 5' or less. I've pretty much always throw the H2Oxpress square bills that Academy sells. They are usually $3.50 or less, where as the KVD 1.5 is $6-7. My question is, has anyone used a KVD 1.5 vs another off brand, and if so have you seen a noticeable difference in catch rate? Is the 1.5 worth the extra $3-4?
The Rick clunn square bills by lucky strike are great baits also worth throwing they catch fish no doubt.
scaleface reply :
I used KVD squarebills a few times and havent caught much .Switch to another bait and hammer them . So I havent used one for a couple of years . The baits that have out-fished them for me are the Luck E Strike Rick Clunn , Rapala Crankin Rap and vintage Rogers Big Jim .
Bluebasser86 reply :
The H2O baits are one of the main squarebills I fish when I fish one.
FishDewd reply :
I haven't tried a bunch of different squarebills, but I've gotten pretty good at working them and know what they're doing under water, so I definitely have confidence in them to some degree. When the squarebill bite is on they're a lot of fun. I mostly have KVD 1.5s, but I also have 1-2 larger 2.5s as well. I try to keep them light or natural colored cause I feel that matches most water conditions pretty well. Also I have one that is somewhat perch colored. The most productive one for me so far has been one that is mostly white with a touch of yellow on the side, silent. I also have a Berkley perch imitator that rattles that's done well, I feel this one works better around cover that the KVD just that's just my opinion. The KVDs tend to sometimes get the front hook stuck on the line for some reason, the Berkley it seems to happen less. Also in my arsenal is a Rapala BX Brat that dives deeper than the KVDs at 6'. It's a green perch color and has a totally different action that the other ones. I throw it sometimes but I have less confidence in it than the others so far.
TOXIC reply :
Another thing to remember about the SPRO Little John's is that the rattles are coated which make a different kind of rattle, it's more of a thump.
WRB reply :
Bagley Balsa B in baby bass has been good for me for over 40 years.
Nothing new about square bills.
Tom
iabass8 reply :
On 6/22/2018 at 9:23 AM, Burros said:Over rated , what does this 10$ square bill offer me that the 7 $ lucky craft doesn’t offer? Absolutely nothing. Minus the 75X now that bait is worth the extra few bucks.
Better hooks, paint, and quality control over the 7$ LC. The 6th sense 50s are 8.99.
burrows reply :
On 6/23/2018 at 3:16 AM, iabass8 said:Better hooks, paint, and quality control over the 7$ LC. The 6th sense 50s are 8.99.
I don’t think so brother I own both brands and I don’t see 6 sense offering anything better at all that includes quality, paint jobs and hooks.
Hey you like the 6 sense square bills, you think they are better that’s cool. I’m cool with that.
iabass8 reply :
On 6/23/2018 at 5:26 AM, Burros said:I don’t think so brother I own both brands and I don’t see 6 sense offering anything better at all.
Cool. The only thing you're paying 7$ for when buying the budget LC is the name. The reason that particular bait is as cheap as it is now is because they cut quality control, hardware, and finish to cheapen the price as a "customer appreciation". The 6th sense have better stock hooks and a better finishing coat. The 7$ LC in't any better or worse than an H20, KVD 1.5, or any other lower priced squarebill. The DRS, RT, RTO, and BDS still have the old quality control/hardware.
iabass8 reply :
On 6/23/2018 at 5:26 AM, Burros said:I don’t think so brother I own both brands and I don’t see 6 sense offering anything better at all that includes quality, paint jobs and hooks.
Hey you like the 6 sense square bills, you think they are better that’s cool. I’m cool with that.
And no, I don't like 6th sense squarebills and prefer LC. However, I would fish a 6th sense before any of the 7$ "LC"
burrows reply :
On 6/23/2018 at 5:47 AM, iabass8 said:And no, I don't like 6th sense squarebills and prefer LC. However, I would fish a 6th sense before any of the 7$ "LC"
Well good for you.
Comfortably Numb reply :
A really good cold water square bill is made by Baker. It's the only suspending SB that I know of. You can really work it slow. Good color choices but the paint chips very easily. Fish don't seem to care tho. Also comes in two depth ranges.
http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Baker_Lures_Suspending_Squarebill_Crankbait/descpage-BKRSUCR.html
BassWhole! reply :
On 6/21/2018 at 9:46 PM, Troy1985s said:Just curious as to others thoughts. I love to throw a square bill, where I fish is mostly shallow, so I'm almost always throwing a square bill that dives 5' or less. I've pretty much always throw the H2Oxpress square bills that Academy sells. They are usually $3.50 or less, where as the KVD 1.5 is $6-7. My question is, has anyone used a KVD 1.5 vs another off brand, and if so have you seen a noticeable difference in catch rate? Is the 1.5 worth the extra $3-4?
SK 1.5 and h2o are two very good cranks, but they vary in profile and action. Based on where and when I'm fishing, I'll go with one over the other, hence I don't rank them one better than the other. I will say that for the money, the Academy baits ar among the best bang for the buck, and some of the most consistent out of the package lures period in terms of action/QA, they are hand painted, so they do vary in color/pattern somewhat, I find this a plus, some may not. There are maybe a dozen or so cranks that I have a lot of confidence in, but in truth, if you get around active fish, they ar going to bite a crank most of the time. Now for the guy that asked about frog vs crank on another thread, that's just silliness...
Chance_Taker4 reply :
I like the H2O squarebills. great value but like others have stated I'd prefer to go with 6th sense or skirmish baits. My gripe with the KVD, H2O and the cheap LC baits are the finish, hooks, and lack of quality control. It seems that I have to tune them every time I get them out of the package to get them to run like they are supposed to. I'd rather pay the few extra dollars for top notch components and better quality control.
bigbassin' reply :
$7? Check Walmart, they sell the KVD 1.5 for $4.50 by me.
Troy85 reply :
I bought a 1.5 sexy shad and tried it out this past Sunday. Caught 11 Bass and 3 Redfish with it. Would my H2O express in shad color worked just as well? I guess we will never know, when the fish are biting, its hard to change lures just to see what happens haha.
Catt reply :
Bill Lewis Echo 1.75 ????
KDW96 reply :
On 6/26/2018 at 5:07 AM, Catt said:Bill Lewis Echo 1.75 ????
Ive got my share of them myself. They gotta rattle sound of their own : )
Troy85 reply :
Those are some nice looking crank baits. I love fishing crank baits, probably my favorite way to catch em....Well, probably second favorite, 1st has to be top water naturally.
BrackishBassin reply :
On 6/21/2018 at 10:30 PM, Pickle_Power said:My all-time favorite square bill is the Bomber Square A. They have always been an economical choice, but they seem to be harder to find lately. The 2" version is just right for largemouths, and the 1-5/8" version is great for everything in rivers around here.
My local WalMart has a whole bin of them on clearance pretty much all of the time. I’ve picked up 8 or so in the past year (cranking from the bank can be problematic).
Crankin4Bass reply :
On 6/22/2018 at 7:39 PM, scaleface said:I used KVD squarebills a few times and havent caught much .Switch to another bait and hammer them . So I havent used one for a couple of years . The baits that have out-fished them for me are the Luck E Strike Rick Clunn , Rapala Crankin Rap and vintage Rogers Big Jim .
Same here. I've had good luck with the Rick Clunn ones. Copper Perch, Green Copper Shad and Green Ghost colors are my favorites.
burrows reply :
On 6/23/2018 at 5:47 AM, iabass8 said:And no, I don't like 6th sense squarebills and prefer LC. However, I would fish a 6th sense before any of the 7$ "LC"
I just happened to open up my square bill box today and go over the differences between theses two baits and you’re totally wrong about better paint jobs better hooks or hardware, whatever, the lucky crafts (the cheap ones) offer way better components much stouter hooks their split rings excel way above the 6 sense and from my experience fishing with both brands and owning both brands the lucky crafts run true compared to the 6 brand that definitely need tuning here and there straight out the box so I really doubt that you have much experience fishing these baits. Highly doubt it.
iabass8 reply :
On 6/28/2018 at 5:57 AM, Burros said:I just happened to open up my square bill box today and go over the differences between theses two baits and you’re totally wrong about better paint jobs better hooks or hardware, whatever, the lucky crafts (the cheap ones) offer way better components much stouter hooks their split rings excel way above the 6 sense and from my experience fishing with both brands and owning both brands the lucky crafts run true compared to the 6 brand that definitely need tuning here and there straight out the box so I really doubt that you have much experience fishing these baits. Highly doubt it.
As somebody who has fished squarebills ranging from 50$ and on the occasion the sub 10$ market for years, I do know the quality difference, or lack there of, in components and cheap squarebills. I have years and years of experience fishing the "standard" LC and as of 2 years ago used the cheap 7$ LC. It does indeed lack quality control, the LC standard of paint, and hardware. This isn't an opinion. The company literally came out and said that is what they did /w the 7$ LC as a customer appreciation just so you can own something /w a "LC name" and now pay the 15$ tag.
They are your run of the mill split rings and cheap hooks. The 6th sense, again, I'm not putting on a 6th sense jersey here, uses a better hook. None of the ones I've used and still use in the curve have rolled quickly being tossed into zebra muscle rocks. Comparing a paint job by just looking at it isn't practical and not the purpose of explaining why one is better. I've dragged both baits through zebra muscle infested wingdams, chunk rock bolders and early spring gravel for months. The 6th sense, the ones left I still use, only have your average hook rash. The 7$ LC looks like it's been sanded down. Even the BX Brat looks better than the cheap LC after the spring.
Your complaint of "they aren't as stout" is a personal preference. Some people prefer to fish squarebills /w a lighter gauge. When I'm fishing plastic crankbaits, it's generally around rock and a lighter gauge hook is more beneficial. Anything non rock is usually done /w balsa and heavier hooks.
Most of the cookie cutter <10$ squarebills are nearly identical in performance. You're picking something you just like to look at or a name at that point. There's nothing special, for the most part, about them. Plastic crankbaits of all price points can need some sort of tuning now and again aside from the S-Crank and sonic side so far. It's to be expected because a plastic squarebill is, if fished correctly, being beat to death. If it's running perfect out of the box, great. Two hours throwing them in docks /w chunk rock and you'll be tuning it anyway to how you want it to run into a post. You don't want a squarebill to run "perfect", ever. As long as it doesn't roll at speeds, it's fine.
I'm not telling you these are "junk". I'm saying there isn't a huge difference performance wise in the cheap squarebill market. What sets them all apart is cosmetic and if I'm spending my money on something, I want it to hold up.
burrows reply :
On 6/28/2018 at 7:01 AM, iabass8 said:
As somebody who has fished squarebills ranging from 50$ and on the occasion the sub 10$ market for years, I do know the quality difference, or lack there of, in components and cheap squarebills. I have years and years of experience fishing the "standard" LC and as of 2 years ago used the cheap 7$ LC. It does indeed lack quality control, the LC standard of paint, and hardware. This isn't an opinion. The company literally came out and said that is what they did /w the 7$ LC as a customer appreciation just so you can own something /w a "LC name" and now pay the 15$ tag.
They are your run of the mill split rings and cheap hooks. The 6th sense, again, I'm not putting on a 6th sense jersey here, uses a better hook. None of the ones I've used and still use in the curve have rolled quickly being tossed into zebra muscle rocks. Comparing a paint job by just looking at it isn't practical and not the purpose of explaining why one is better. I've dragged both baits through zebra muscle infested wingdams, chunk rock bolders and early spring gravel for months. The 6th sense, the ones left I still use, only have your average hook rash. The 7$ LC looks like it's been sanded down. Even the BX Brat looks better than the cheap LC after the spring.
Your complaint of "they aren't as stout" is a personal preference. Some people prefer to fish squarebills /w a lighter gauge. When I'm fishing plastic crankbaits, it's generally around rock and a lighter gauge hook is more beneficial. Anything non rock is usually done /w balsa and heavier hooks.
Most of the cookie cutter <10$ squarebills are nearly identical in performance. You're picking something you just like to look at or a name at that point. There's nothing special, for the most part, about them. Plastic crankbaits of all price points can need some sort of tuning now and again aside from the S-Crank and sonic side so far. It's to be expected because a plastic squarebill is, if fished correctly, being beat to death. If it's running perfect out of the box, great. Two hours throwing them in docks /w chunk rock and you'll be tuning it anyway to how you want it to run into a post. You don't want a squarebill to run "perfect", ever. As long as it doesn't roll at speeds, it's fine.
I'm not telling you these are "junk". I'm saying there isn't a huge difference performance wise in the cheap squarebill market. What sets them all apart is cosmetic and if I'm spending my money on something, I want it to hold up.
I agree with you on a lot of what you’re saying, and I’m not putting on the lc Jersey either the rto were my favorite from lc and they are no longer available. Tuning a crankbait is part of crankbait fishing so I have to say that I agree with you on that as well, I just don’t feel the 6 crush 50 offers anything better than the lc cheapy squarebills in my opinion if there going to offer something that everyone else offers why charge more for it. I do like the 75x and feel that is a bait worth paying for since it is a square bill that offers something different for cooler water than other cold water crankbaits. The conclusion of the matter will have to be that we can agree to disagree at least when it comes to this topic.????????????????????????
BuzzHudson19c reply :
I love the KVD 1.5. My go to smallie squarebill (blk/chart)
I actually really like the Rapala scatter rap crank. Not a true square bill, but man they work.
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