While reading the "What were they trying to do" thread I thought of this goofy thing I used to do when fishing a small river. It was basically a dumb man's Carolina rig but made before I had any idea what I was doing. I would put some sinkers on my line maybe a foot above the hook. Enough to keep it on the bottom in a current. A few inches above the hook I would a put a really small clip on bobber. Then I'd rig the hook with a night crawler. The bobber kept the hook off the bottom. Looking back it was goofy as heck but guess what.......I caught a few catfish and stuff with it. NOT a world beater by any stretch but it worked. Ok...your turn. Rat yourself out
Fishing for channel cats I like to use a floating jig head made for walleye . Carolina rig it with a 1 ounce sinker and two foot leader . I'll put a small shad on the jig head . It works real well , except after one fish the jighead is usually destroyed .
I also caught a white bass on a cigarette butt just to prove to someone I could do it .
Barrel swivels with snaps? Yeah, I used to be that guy... guilty as charged.
I started carolina rigging a trick worm on a hand line when my line broke on a long cast, and continued to catch bass.
I tried out the Helicopter rig. That's the one where Roland Martin comes by and takes money out of your pocket and gives you the worst lure on the face of the earth to use.
On 7/14/2016 at 10:38 AM, Avalonjohn44 said:I tried out the Helicopter rig. That's the one where Roland Martin comes by and takes money out of your pocket and gives you the worst lure on the face of the earth to use.
Wasted an entire summer on that lure. Thousands of casts, not one fish. I thought I had a bite once, but it was probably a stick.
On 7/14/2016 at 4:24 AM, Jaderose said:While reading the "What were they trying to do" thread I thought of this goofy thing I used to do when fishing a small river. It was basically a dumb man's Carolina rig but made before I had any idea what I was doing. I would put some sinkers on my line maybe a foot above the hook. Enough to keep it on the bottom in a current. A few inches above the hook I would a put a really small clip on bobber. Then I'd rig the hook with a night crawler. The bobber kept the hook off the bottom. Looking back it was goofy as heck but guess what.......I caught a few catfish and stuff with it. NOT a world beater by any stretch but it worked. Ok...your turn. Rat yourself out
Maybe you didn't use the best hardware but what you described is the "Santee rig" and its a great catfish setup.
I remember as a kid fishing with a cousins older friend. I asked for a lure and I guess he didn't want to give up anything good so he dug out an old cheap swimbait with a single treble and handed it to me. I tied it up and started fishing, after a while of him not catching anything I hooked into a 13 pound mudfish. Not what we were fishing for but probably the biggest fish in that pond and I'll never forget the look on his face lol. And at about 9 years old I was pretty happy with it.
On 7/14/2016 at 10:38 AM, Avalonjohn44 said:I tried out the Helicopter rig. That's the one where Roland Martin comes by and takes money out of your pocket and gives you the worst lure on the face of the earth to use.
And the Flying Jig!
When I first started fishing I Invented a rig that is probably the dumbest thing ever. It consisted of a half ounce egg sinker above a three way swivel with 2 10 lb leaders tied on and wacky rigged senkos on the end of each leader. So I guess you could call it the double wacky Senko carolina rig.
When I was younger I would nose hook senkos and swim them along the bottom at a pond near my house. It didn't matter how big or small of a hook I was using, I would always nose hook it.
i also caught a sucker fish on the rag rig. It's where you take a red rag, put it on a hook and then clip on as much split shot on as possible to get the bait to the bottom. Shake it a bit and when the sucker fish picks it up set the hook. I invented it and another member on here named it.
One time I cut a senko in half and used mend-it to place both halves opposite of each other attached to another senko.
That was probably a poor way of wording that, but it made an X shape out of 2 senkos.
I caught a dink on it, and later I found out that there's actually a product that exists like that already.
All in the same body of water, where we only fish from a paddle boat:
8# class fish in July trolling a #5 Shad rap
15"er or so, trolling a flipping jig in 15 FOW
Pink, green, and yellow skirted swim jig with a kandy corn colored senko as a trailer, caught many fish with this.
Buddy caught a 12-15"er when he hit free spool to pull a loop out of his spool with a spinnerbait falling over the side of the boat. A willow blade spinnerbait, one that does NOT helicopter.
We also sit directly on top of a beaver hut and drop jigs into the holes we can see. "You can never get too close to the hut".
I could write a short novel about all the things I've tried! How about the rubber band drop shot rig. Can't remember the name, but that actually worked well!
When I was 13 I fished a section of shoreline on a small lake. I would cast parallel to the shore from points on the bank. One day I decided to troll my only lure,(purple tandem Colorado spinner bait) , by holding my rod with one hand out as far as I could, and walking slowly along the bank.. Part of the bank was large rip rap. Fell in many times trying to jump from one rock to the next and still keep my bait spinning. I spent most of that summer walking that bank back and forth trolling my spinner bait. Would be in better shape if I started using that technique now. Might even catch more fish.
Not so much a goofy rig as a goofy technique.
At age 10/11-ish, I somehow got my hands on a packet of red Mister Twister Curtly tail worms, the ones that were bigger than a grub and were kind of a predecessor to the ribbontail worms of today. All I knew about fishing was still fishing for catfish or trolling with lures like Flatfish. So my buddy & I piled into the 6 foot dingy we had mounted an electric motor on, ran catfish hooks through the worms like you would do with an exposed jig head, and started dragging them behind the boat at a speed fast enough to make the tails move. With no weight on them, they stayed pretty close to the surface. It was late summer, so we would troll right through the middle of the weed beds, basically making a path as we went and dragging the worms in the path.
Rarely would we get a strike on the first or second pass through an area, but we did catch a few fish going back through our paths later.
I still like to carolina rig hardbaits like suspending Jerkbaits, Floating Minnow baits, and jointed Minnow baits....Especially in moving water and in saltwater, but if I find hard bottom without weeds, and water is deep, I hate cranking since the lure barely stays in the strike zone...I do better with a square bill or wake bait with a 1/2 egg sinker in front kicking up the bottom. You get snagged if wood is around but sometimes it really works well if everyone is doing the same thing...I use my cheaper lures for this, but a Jointed Bomber Long A can be a big fish bait if worked super slow in summer....
Another thing I have done in ponds when not catching anything is simply casting a heavy carolina rig in a muddy area to stir up the bottom, get algae and scum to float up to the surface and create a small chum slick...Crawfish, shiners, little bluegill, minnows all start coming around...If you stir up the bottom with a big crank that works also, come back 20 minutes later and usually Bass will have moved in to investigate and sometimes it gets the bite started again....It usually only works in ponds when you know fish are in the area, on Big Florida lakes you have no idea if Bass are within miles sometimes, or at least it can feel that way in the summer especially. I spent 6 hours on a lake this weekend for 2 strikes....1 may have been a bass but didn't land it...
I have brand new packages of the helicopter lures in gold and chartreuse. Discounted of course. I needed for my museum collection. Lmao.
Mann's Dragun fly. These worked great when split shot rigged and presented in a vertical hatching in the weeds. Discontinued but I have a stash. I fished them in a droppoff near the shoreline near the weeds.
Mepps Timber Doodle. Looks weird but works awesome in the weeds.
As a shore guy I sometimes don't want to deal with the hassle of bringing/juggling multiple rods so as the saying goes "necessity(or in my case laziness) is the mother of invention".
1) I don't like spending time cutting/re-tying different presentations so the first thing I tried when i wasn't sure if I wanted a dropshot or bottom presentation was that I set up a dropshot, but instead of a dropshot weight I used an Owner Shakey Ultrahead, with a Damiki Air Craw. I actually managed to get a huge hit (on the Shakeyhead) but the fish broke me off. I'm glad it worked but it made me realize that if I get a breakoff I lose twice as much tackle, so I stopped using it.
2) Instead of having to re-tie I've adapted a quick clip system where I'll use a quick clip (Norman Speed Clip, Tactical Anglers Power Clip, and now trying a Gamakatsu G-Finesse Tournament Snap) where I can swap out lures or a rig (tied onto a Spro Power Swivel) by just connecting the lure or the Power Swivel to to the quick clip. I can go from dropshot to crankbait to shakeyhead to T-rig to splitshot to anything else that can be pre-tied to a leader, in a matter of seconds.
I'm really scratching my head on this one. I saw a floating bobber at the entrance to my fav pond and just hoped it'd float to shore so I could donate it to some nightcrawler kids. Not today! I eventually snagged it for fun to find this "dufus rig."
There was about 2.5-3 ' of line between the sinker and spinnerbait and the bobber. This pond has dropped in this spot from about 12' to maybe 5 at best. No need for a 6-7 foot long setup.
I made this using the front of a craw and a marabou jig.
Any luck with that bills?
On 10/2/2016 at 9:11 AM, Torn Thumb said:Any luck with that bills?
Not yet, I only got to throw it one time at a small pond. Might try it again tomorrow
On 10/2/2016 at 9:04 AM, Torn Thumb said:I'm really scratching my head on this one. I saw a floating bobber at the entrance to my fav pond and just hoped it'd float to shore so I could donate it to some nightcrawler kids. Not today! I eventually snagged it for fun to find this "dufus rig."
There was about 2.5-3 ' of line between the sinker and spinnerbait and the bobber. This pond has dropped in this spot from about 12' to maybe 5 at best. No need for a 6-7 foot long setup.
Wouldn't it be mind blowing if the guy that uses that rig is catching big bass with it?Definitely got to give him some credit for thinking outside the box. Lol
Last fall I got a coworker to try out fishing without powerbait for his first time ever. There's a local trout lake with some really nice rainbows and browns, but it's single barbless hooks only and no bait. I have some spoons/flies that I use for that sort of thing, and showed him what they look like. He shows up with these giant sinkers, had to have been 1/2oz or more, attached to a 1-2' leader and some sort of tiny pink plastic spider looking thing. But hey it has one hook and he's filed off the barb so what the heck. He drags it on the bottom and loses his entire setup a bunch of times, but I'll be danged if he doesn't limit out (two trout limit here). I only caught and released one that day. So what do I know!
One that comes to mind personally was when I discovered smallmouth fishing on the local river here, again the same single/barbless restriction (to protect the native trout). I was trying to come up with a better hook setup than a siwash on small Rapala/Rebel cranks to target the smallies since they kept spitting them, and one night a few too many adult beverages resulted in reinventing the wheel, lug nuts and hub assembly. I had tied on a stout piece of mono between the two hook eyes, with a barbless circle hook riding point forward on the ~2" piece of line. Part of me still thinks it could have worked, but that part is most likely an idiot and I never actually tried it.
Bobber witha wacky senko on 2-4' of line depth. Works really well at times in a pond i fish when the bass suspend a few feet below surface. I just pop it along like working a crappie jig.
Tried it one day when i was missed a few fish because i had too much slack out on a slow bite day. The few bites i had were hitting it quickly after it hit water but i had slack out to let it drop 10' to bottom. It was a slow day so i figured why not. Also found it works well around brush to keep it around brush top with out falling in to deep and losing fish that wrap line around limbs.
I've given that a thought before when the bites were very subtle or the wind was blowing too hard to line watch. Felt too guilty like it'd be cheating though.
I experimented with various umbrella rigs, this one I was thinking, since bass are so territorial...
On 10/21/2016 at 11:09 AM, Dogmatic said:I experimented with various umbrella rigs, this one I was thinking, since bass are so territorial...
Haha, that's awesome. Probably the most expensive umbrella rig ever too.
One that I saw on YouTube and want to try is a double rigged whopper plopper. I would think rigging a 130 at the back and a 90 up front would give the imitation of a fish chasing small baitfish.
On 10/21/2016 at 10:54 PM, MassYak85 said:Haha, that's awesome. Probably the most expensive umbrella rig ever too.
One that I saw on YouTube and want to try is a double rigged whopper plopper. I would think rigging a 130 at the back and a 90 up front would give the imitation of a fish chasing small baitfish.
No, I've made, and lost more expensive ones! Lost a 6" Bullshad three rig($180), Baitsmith Shad three rig($75, and you can't get them anymore), and a Mattlures Baby Hardgill/Hardgill five rig($300). Ouch! I've seen the double whopper plopper rig (with the straw). I'm going to start "experimenting" with that rig soon. ?
On 10/22/2016 at 2:52 AM, Dogmatic said:No, I've made, and lost more expensive ones! Lost a 6" Bullshad three rig($180), Baitsmith Shad three rig($75, and you can't get them anymore), and a Mattlures Baby Hardgill/Hardgill five rig($300). Ouch! I've seen the double whopper plopper rig (with the straw). I'm going to start "experimenting" with that rig soon. ?
Haha, and I'm scared of throwing a $30 swimbait in an area it might get snagged. Did you ever double hook up on any of those with some big ones?
On 10/22/2016 at 3:51 AM, MassYak85 said:Haha, and I'm scared of throwing a $30 swimbait in an area it might get snagged. Did you ever double hook up on any of those with some big ones?
I've only had one double hookup, and it was with a traditional jig head and plastic swimbaits flash mob rig.
Lots of the stuff mentioned is not that weird and other people use similar rigs you just don't hear about it. I have rigged up all kinds of crazy stuff just to see. You might be surprised at how well some things actually work.
On 10/21/2016 at 11:09 AM, Dogmatic said:I experimented with various umbrella rigs, this one I was thinking, since bass are so territorial...
World's most dangerous baby mobile.
I caught a bass on a T-rigged weightless Gummy Worm once just to prove I could.I also have a wrench rig I made, but I haven't used it yet. I've thought about dipping it in gold because there are golden shiners where I fish.
On 10/21/2016 at 10:54 PM, MassYak85 said:Haha, that's awesome. Probably the most expensive umbrella rig ever too.
One that I saw on YouTube and want to try is a double rigged whopper plopper. I would think rigging a 130 at the back and a 90 up front would give the imitation of a fish chasing small baitfish.
I wouldn't fish this but it makes a great mobile.
Over the years, I've tried some really weird things. The majority involved tinkering with existing baits,I even altered a cheap craw crank to run backwards. Two of the most productive things I've done is Carolina rigging an Original Rapala and subsequently just about every shallow running crankbait I've ever owned. The other is drop shotting a hair jig in cold water. I plan on trying that one out through the ice this winter.
On 10/28/2016 at 9:20 AM, papajoe222 said:Over the years, I've tried some really weird things. The majority involved tinkering with existing baits,I even altered a cheap craw crank to run backwards. Two of the most productive things I've done is Carolina rigging an Original Rapala and subsequently just about every shallow running crankbait I've ever owned. The other is drop shotting a hair jig in cold water. I plan on trying that one out through the ice this winter.
C-rigging a Rapala sounds like a big fish bait.
I once caught a Northern on a Carolina rigged Twizzler. We were up north and one day I had a few too many beers, one thing led to another. I always had an idea a pike would eat anything, that verified it for me.