I am looking for a soft body swimbait that works for a very slow retrieve on the bottom.
Any recommendations?
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How big of a swimbait are you looking for?
Then first thing that comes to my mind is a Huddleston, which is often fished more like a jig than a moving bait.
Huddleston and keitech easy shiner or keitech swing impact
For smaller paddle tailes I think the Keitech FI’s have the best and most subtle action when worked slow and mostly weightless. The SK version is more durable but I think it takes more speed to get it moving.
Scottsboro Tackle Co. Swimbaits. They come in lengths from 3" to 8" and have excellent movement at a crawl. That's where they shine. Comes with a shallow hook pocket as well to assist rigging and hookups.
Huddleston is pretty much the standard for a big swimbait that is soft and can be fished slowly. Keitech for a smaller bait, although now you can get them in larger sizes as well.
3:16 swimbaits
1. Huddleston Delux 68 ROF 12
2. Little Crippers All American Trash Fish
3. 3:16 Mission Fish for weedless presentation.
Tom
huddleston, Real prey
Gentlemen,
I really appreciate the responses.
Regarding the Huddleston's, if you are fishing in 8-12ft water depth, which ROF would you use?
Thanks
On 12/6/2018 at 4:57 PM, Lefty76 said:Gentlemen,
I really appreciate the responses.
Regarding the Huddleston's, if you are fishing in 8-12ft water depth, which ROF would you use?
Thanks
12, especially if you want to keep it on the bottom.
@Lefty76: I fish a lot of small, weedy, natural lakes here in western MA, and weedless rigs are my big concern. Having said that, if you are looking for smaller swimbaits, you might want to consider Reaction Innovations Little Dipper. I have had great success (for me) using the Sungill color, either creeping then along the bottom (weighted hook) or slow rolling them and letting them settle to the bottom. Just a thought. No shad here but lots of bluegill and golden shiners.
On 12/6/2018 at 6:50 PM, Bluebasser86 said:12, especially if you want to keep it on the bottom.
I kinda like the ROF5 for 8-10', it forces me to reel it super super slow to keep it on the bottom and I need any help I can get in that department.
Depends what you mean by slow and what you mean by swimbait. If you mean just barely creeping bottom in water that's about to freeze with larger baits (I'm talking like 4-5 seconds for a single handle rotation on your reel slow here), then in that case the only ones I've tried that will still have tail action just nosing the bottom at that speed are the Hudds, Real Preys, and Little Creeper Trash Fish. Otherwise keitechs are always a good choice but they have a bit more exaggerated tail action (which is a good thing sometimes) at faster retrieve speeds.
On 12/6/2018 at 11:52 PM, fishwizzard said:I kinda like the ROF5 for 8-10', it forces me to reel it super super slow to keep it on the bottom and I need any help I can get in that department.
I'd second this too. You can always discretely add nail weights to a ROF5 to really dial in your preferred sink rate. You can remove some of the lead from the harness of a ROF12 too but that's a bit involved and is obviously a permanent change to the lure whereas with nail weights you can swap them out on the fly.
Ok so I went to Field & Stream and got these:
The largest hooks they had in stock were 7/0 Berkley Fusion & Eagle Claw TroKars.
I hope they will work on these size of baits.
So you basically went with your original choice.
What tackle do you plan to use?
What makes a good slow moving swimbait vs a not so good swimbait in your opinion?
Tail movement alone doesn't trigger big bass into striking a swimbait.
Tom
Tom,
Field & Stream just happens to be next to Golf Galaxy (My #1 hobby)
I actually went there looking for some rods for my refurbished Green 5:1 Curado reels (circa 1998-99).
Ended up purchasing two Dobyns Fury 7' 3" flipping rods. (These will be used for big worms and other lures they can handle.)
On one reel may try out 30lb braid and a Flouro leader.
On another reel I may try 15lb mono.
Line on the 3rd Curado is TBD.
Two Daiwa DX Swimbait rods are in route from Tackle Warehouse and should arrive tomorrow.
Plan is to use my reconditioned 5500C3 reels that have been updated with levelwind bearings as well as all new bearings.
Plan to use 20lb pound mono on these reels.
I did not expect to see Keitechs there as I have never seen them in Bass Pro Shops or Academy Outdoors.
I never seen any swimbaits at those stores except the Bass Pro Shops brand and have ignored those.
I saw them and grabbed them as there were few on the shelf.
@Lefty76 those hooks definitely will not be big enough for that 7.8.
I way afraid of that but they will find use in the future.
12/0 owner beast for the 7.8
On 12/7/2018 at 7:27 AM, MassYak85 said:Depends what you mean by slow and what you mean by swimbait. If you mean just barely creeping bottom in water that's about to freeze with larger baits (I'm talking like 4-5 seconds for a single handle rotation on your reel slow here), then in that case the only ones I've tried that will still have tail action just nosing the bottom at that speed are the Hudds, Real Preys, and Little Creeper Trash Fish. Otherwise keitechs are always a good choice but they have a bit more exaggerated tail action (which is a good thing sometimes) at faster retrieve speeds.
I'd second this too. You can always discretely add nail weights to a ROF5 to really dial in your preferred sink rate. You can remove some of the lead from the harness of a ROF12 too but that's a bit involved and is obviously a permanent change to the lure whereas with nail weights you can swap them out on the fly.
I just got an ROF 0 hudd, im kind of really tempted to toss it in cold shallow ponds. dead stick it. It barely sits under the surface, the nose and tail are under water.
you could put a nail weight and make it an ROF 1, 2 or 3
I've got some big hand poured paddle tail swimbaits, the soft materail has good action at slow speed
On 12/8/2018 at 5:26 AM, Mr. Aquarium said:I just got an ROF 0 hudd, im kind of really tempted to toss it in cold shallow ponds. dead stick it. It barely sits under the surface, the nose and tail are under water.
you could put a nail weight and make it an ROF 1, 2 or 3
The ROF 0's don't come with hooks right? Gotta BBR or STE rig them or something? I've thought about doing the same. There's a lot of ponds I fish that are shallow and I can't go as slow as I'd like without sinking into the dying weed beds and getting fouled up. A ROF 1 or 2 would be great. I've tried shaving off some of the lead of a ROF 5 68 weedless but it still wasn't quite what I was hoping for.
On 12/7/2018 at 9:33 AM, WRB said:So you basically went with your original choice.
What tackle do you plan to use?
What makes a good slow moving swimbait vs a not so good swimbait in your opinion?
Tail movement alone doesn't trigger big bass into striking a swimbait.
Tom
You are forcing THOUGHT above EMOTION.... As with most emotionally charged purchases, it often turns out the items purchased are not the best suited for the situation at hand. Very wise and astute observations here.
On 12/9/2018 at 12:42 AM, MassYak85 said:The ROF 0's don't come with hooks right? Gotta BBR or STE rig them or something? I've thought about doing the same. There's a lot of ponds I fish that are shallow and I can't go as slow as I'd like without sinking into the dying weed beds and getting fouled up. A ROF 1 or 2 would be great. I've tried shaving off some of the lead of a ROF 5 68 weedless but it still wasn't quite what I was hoping for.
the one i got off TW has a top hook! I cant wait to use it
Below is a photo of my swimbait arsenal.
I have yet to throw the Keitechs, but I tried out one of the Hudds last week (8" ROF5).
Deepest water is around 20feet.
Mr Young,
Now I understand why you like them as a slow moving bottom swimbait.
The boot tail movement is unique/somewhat subtle.
Do the Hudds need to be prepped/softened up before using?
I just pulled one out of the package, tied it to 20lb Pline mono and casted it out.
The hard baits are all 8inchers. The BB-Z stays on top when retrieving while River2Sea S-waver200 sinks a few feet. Yet to cast the Gigantrel bluegill/tilapia imitation. Tilapia and bluegill are the big forage in the farm pond.
Between these lures and 12 inch Berkely power worms, I should have all i need to lure a 8lb plus bass into biting.