Lure action 2025

History of lure action

Throughout the history of using lures, fishermen have always had the disadvantage of limited control over their lure's actions. When using lures there have only been two forces the fisherman could use to get "action" out of their lures,, moving the lure towards the fisherman, by taking in line, and the force of gravity. Fishermen can control the movement towards them to some degree, in changing the rate of retrieve, and rod movement during that retrieve. Gravity acting on the lure is a "slow" uncontrollable force when the lures falls back towards the bottom after being raised.

Lure manufacturers have spent millions in R&D to take as much advantage in these two forces as possible, to try to mimic the action of the natural pray that fish feed on, and they have also spent huge sums trying to get their lures to continue to move (their skirts, tails, or limbs) once the forces of the retrieve, and gravity have stopped. Very little continued movement has ever been archived after the lure stops moving through the water., yet they have sold many millions of dollars in lures that claim to still move a "little", once the lateral action stops. The reason is simple, natural pray moves around in one spot. Many game fish will not hit something that is laying perfectly still, unless they just watched it moving. This means you can't leave it in one spot for long, or the fish that watched it, loose interest in it.  Being able to keep a lure moving in one spot has been the Holly Grail of the lure manufacturers, and fishermen. To totally mimic live bait, to be able to fish a lure like  live bait. The drop shot rig has come closer than anything before it, and when the fish are deep, and in clear water, the drop shot rig out catches all other prior rigs, even though the action is not natural.

Why are you guys not interested in the solution to this problem ?

Do you not believe a lure moving with an equal , natural, totally controllable  vibration and action, can catch more fish than what your doing now ?

DO you not want to take the action out of the lure manufacturer's hands and place them in yours ?

I'm really curious,, have I invented something that few "regular" fishermen want to use, that only serious fishermen use ?

Watch the first video on this page,, although it shows the maximum action placed on lures,, this action can be reduced to anything the fisherman wants.

http://ezknot.com/videos.html

I think a lot of us who have been fishing for a while have learned how to tune lures to get our own actions into these lures. Up North you need something to do when the lakes freeze up!

 There is no one lure that will do everything, nor is there something inherent in them that will automatically let you outfish other lures, It takes time to learn each bait and then the experience that will give you confident in that bait.

 Most expperience older guys swear by the jig, I avoided using one for years and now that i am just begining to get the knack and a bit of confidence they are starting to work for me.

Why are you guys not interested in the solution to this problem?

While you make some interesting points have you ever heard of the highly productive technique called Dead Sticking?

I bought a wiggle rig but it is still sitting in my tackle bag.

Will try it out at some point but right now the fluke and senko bite is still "hot".

Plus I love working my plastics on the weedtops and parallel to the weed beds.

I have faith that the wiggle rig does work but can I give you a word of advice? Tone down the paid commercial type posts and you would get a lot more takers. I myself didn't purchase the wiggle rig because of your style (your presentation actually made me a bit cautious of your product, I hate paid commerical banter).....I purchased it to try something new. Maybe you will get more takers if you just calm it down a bit and not talk to your fellow fishermen like they are morons for not trying out your product. Just a little friendly advice that would go a long way in advertising your product.

Quote from original post:. The reason is simple, natural pray moves around in one spot. Many game fish will not hit something that is laying perfectly still, unless they just watched it moving. This means you can't leave it in one spot for long, or the fish that watched it, loose interest in it.

From everything RW,LBH,Brent and Avid have taught me and my very sucessful year of fishing with *** , this statement is not completly true I have had much sucess with dead sticking these baits, with a lot of ffish in the boat doing exactly what you said doesn't work.

 I am not trying to be disrespectful to an advertiser it is just that some very experienced fisherman taught me top do the exact oppisite, and it worked in a huge fashion. I am sure drop shotting is also a highly sucessful method but it is not the only good way to catch fish.

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I think a lot of us who have been fishing for a while have learned how to tune lures to get our own actions into these lures. Up North you need something to do when the lakes freeze up!

 There is no one lure that will do everything, nor is there something inherent in them that will automatically let you outfish other lures, It takes time to learn each bait and then the experience that will give you confident in that bait.

 Most expperience older guys swear by the jig, I avoided using one for years and now that i am just begining to get the knack and a bit of confidence they are starting to work for me.

There is no one lure that will,, but there is one rig, that increase the catch rate of the lures (soft plastics) that you use,, "so far" I have not had a single report where two fisherman were using the same soft plastic lure,, that the one using the Wiggle rig did not out fish thee one without it.

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Quote from original post:. The reason is simple, natural pray moves around in one spot. Many game fish will not hit something that is laying perfectly still, unless they just watched it moving. This means you can't leave it in one spot for long, or the fish that watched it, loose interest in it.

From everything RW,LBH,Brent and Avid have taught me and my very sucessful year of fishing with *** , this statement is not completly true I have had much sucess with dead sticking these baits, with a lot of ffish in the boat doing exactly what you said doesn't work.

 I am not trying to be disrespectful to an advertiser it is just that some very experienced fisherman taught me top do the exact oppisite, and it worked in a huge fashion. I am sure drop shotting is also a highly sucessful method but it is not the only good way to catch fish.

I never said "anything" that is currently used, does not work,, "everything" works with bass at times, just it's hard to find something that works "all" the time.. The Wiggle rig does not work all the time either, it only works  (all the time) when the fish are located close to the bottom , banks, or structure.

When fish are suspended in open water, it does not work

Your very experienced fishermen were right,, with the rigs that "were" available, they used the best methods for the tools they had, this is a new tool that opens up a whole different game in catching fish,, they never pitted their techniques against this rig. I have,, and a couple thousand other fisherman have as well. SO far it has out preformed "every" other technique of using soft plastics, "every" time.

These test were all done with both fishermen using the same lure, in the same color, and both fishermen in the same boat, at the same time (of course many different lures were tried, just when one fisherman changed over, they both did.) The Wiggle rig did not just out perform all other rigs 50, 60, or even 80 % of the time, it did it "every" time.

Sure some days were not 30 + bass days, but regardless, the fishermen using the Wiggle rig caught more than the one not  using it.

You can't judge a lure, or a rig, or even a technique, when fishermen are in different boats,, one could just be able to find more fish than the other. Finding fish and big fish is over 80% of winning tournaments.

Another thing,, the Wiggle rig actually does nothing to a lure, it just allows the fishermen to do nearly anything. I hate to hear when guys order the rig and tell me they are going to be fish a tournament with it as soon as they get it. This new tool needs to be practiced with, just like a guy would not drop shot in a tournament, when he had never drop shotted before. Since there are a thousand different actions and combination of actions you can put on a lure with this rig, you must "learn" how to use it, you do this by watching each lure, where you can see what rod tip action places on the lure,, so you know what your lures are doing when you can't see them. Sometimes you need a lot of action to get a bass to hit,, other times you want just a very little. With the Wiggle rig, you can vary that action, to anything even with the lure sitting in one spot, until you find out what they are hitting, then stick with it.

One major reason people don't catch many huge bass is they fish their lures too quickly, If you dead stick,, you have learned big bass just mosey over to a lure, it some times takes them quite a few min. to get over to it to eat it. This is the reason dead sticking works so well. The only difference between wiggling and dead sticking is,, the lure acts like it's still alive, it keeps more bass interested in it. So we are using the best method (dead sticking) keeping the lure in one spot, and also the best action on that lure,, something that before, no fisherman could do.

This rig works so well, it is the only fishing tackle in the world with a 100% (including S&H) "instant" money back for "any" reason,, and you don't even send back the tackle,, that's right ,, you keep it, use it, throw it away, do what ever you want,, it just takes an email from you telling me you want your money back, and I hit "refund" on PayPal,, it does not even require a stamp. Your money is instantly placed back into your account

Show many any tackle company that will do this,, heck show me any company, anywhere, with any product that will do this

Think about the dead stick,, the lure just sits there, with zero signs of life, perhaps the bass saw it moving before it died. With the Wiggle rig, the lure "can be" ever so slightly still moving, in that one spot, so even a bass that didn't see it moving prior, when they come by the lure, they will ****** it, or if you like, you "can" still just let it sit there dead, but you now have the option,, something you never had before.

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I bought a wiggle rig but it is still sitting in my tackle bag.

Will try it out at some point but right now the fluke and senko bite is still "hot".

Plus I love working my plastics on the weedtops and parallel to the weed beds.

I have faith that the wiggle rig does work but can I give you a word of advice? Tone down the paid commercial type posts and you would get a lot more takers. I myself didn't purchase the wiggle rig because of your style (your presentation actually made me a bit cautious of your product, I hate paid commerical banter).....I purchased it to try something new. Maybe you will get more takers if you just calm it down a bit and not talk to your fellow fishermen like they are morons for not trying out your product.   Just a little friendly advice that would go a long way in advertising your product.

Your advice is well taken,, I agree with you about it,, but tell me another way,, I would give anything for a better way to present this,, but being as I own the company,, anything I say about it would be considered a commercial.

I could, I guess, get me another email address and "pretend" to just be a happy fisherman using it  

But that is something I will never do, it's just not honest.

I sure did not mean to make anyone look like a moron,, I sure don't think they are. What I think is I'm not being able to get just how good this thing is across,, I am believing that that is the problem, it is too good, so good no one believes it. I know why they are so Leary,, they have been screwed by so many companies that have made such claims in the past, on stuff that was just no better than they were already fishing with, and a lot of stuff actually worst than what they used. They have all been conned before.  These con companies are still out there, and still trying to rip off as many fisherman as they can.

I am not one of those companies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

80% of my business is repeat orders

Next time you go fishing,, put that rig on one of your rods,, don't wait until the fish won't hit anything else, just use it for a few cast, please give it a chance.

There's no doubt in my mind that the wiggle rig is an effective technique.

I really enjoy drop shotting.  My most expensive rod/reel combo is dedicated to this technique.

I think the idea of the elastic string sounds valid.  By having something stretchy down there one could add action to the bait.

I'm not sure why a thin rubber band wouldn't work.  Or that your "invention" is the only material that will.

I confess that when I see claims like that my "BS alarm" goes off.

That's not to say that you are misleading us.  Nope, but I'm sure you seen enough fishy fish lure ads to know what I'm talking about.  

Hey at least you don't have a testimonial from Charlie Adams claiming that it might be banned in tournaments.... 8-)

It's something that I may give a try to one of these days.

If it works like you say, I will be the first to eat humble pie, and declare myself

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There's no doubt in my mind that the wiggle rig is an effective technique.

I really enjoy drop shotting.  My most expensive rod/reel combo is dedicated to this technique.

I think the idea of the elastic string sounds valid.  By having something stretchy down there one could add action to the bait.

I'm not sure why a thin rubber band wouldn't work.  Or that your "invention" is the only material that will.

I confess that when I see claims like that my "BS alarm" goes off.

That's not to say that you are misleading us.  Nope, but I'm sure you seen enough fishy fish lure ads to know what I'm talking about.  

Hey at least you don't have a testimonial from Charlie Adams claiming that it might be banned in tournaments.... 8-)

It's something that I may give a try to one of these days.

If it works like you say, I will be the first to eat humble pie, and declare myself

 

     

         

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The reason a rubber band won't work is physics,, you cut rubber thin enough so you don't need three or more Ozes of weight to hold it in place to get it to stretch, (so you can get your action) and it breaks when casting,, same thing with "all" elastics manufactured anywhere in the world, also the slightest weight snag, means you break off.

When I first got the idea, I tested the principle with a strip of rubber, it took 4 Oz'es of weight to get the first one to work with the weakest rubber I could find.  I then tried "every" elastic thread manufactured, I called or emailed every company in the world for samples, the last thing I wanted is a "special" ordered material to make this thing work,, because of the cost of such a material. None of the manufactured material would work, I then asked the companies to make me an elastic that could stretch in less than 1 OZ resistance, yet had at least a 6 lb breaking strength. "NONE" could think of anything that would do that .

One day I was looking at some 100# "Spectra" fishing line I use for salt water fishing, I got the magnifying glass out and found out it was a hollow braid, I took some supper fine rubber, and a needle, and threaded the rubber through the Spectra, pulling the Spectra down , bunching it up on the needle, and rubber. I did this until I had covered a 4 inch section of rubber (it took about 3 hours to make this 4 inches). I then tied a knot in the Spectra at each end over the rubber. I just made the worlds strongest bungee cord,, it worked great, I caught a dozen bass on that one cord.

I called Honey Wel about making an elastic with their Spectra,, their engineer said it was impossible,, Because Spectra has no stretch, I called an elastic manufacturer and asked them the same,, they also said it was not possible, I then called my patent attorney.   By the way,, my "invention" is anything and everything that stretches between a weight and lure.

I went over board to make sure it would "NEVER" be banned in tournaments,, B.A.S.S. got the first exclusive story on it, (June 2001 Bassmaster), part of the deal was they never would ban it. It is currently used by many of their pros, you will probably never see anyone on stage saying they were using it, because I won't "PAY" them to do that. I guess many people don't know, but unless they get paid to tell,,, they just don't, it's not to their advantage to tell anyone what they use to win,, why "give" your secrete away?  They are paid to promote their sponsors products on stage, whether they actually used them to win or not.  It's just the nature of this business, and keeps the little guys little, as only the mega companies can afford to pay them.

I could sell out to Berkly,, then everyone would buy it,,but  I would not make a penny on the dollar from all my work.

I got to jump in here for a bit. I ordered some of the Wiggle rigs about a month ago and immediately started using them in very shallow water - so that I could see what the heck it was about and how it would influence my presentation. BTW, I fish a very deep, very clear, hilland type reservoir for smallmouth bass almost exclusively, so I naturally do a lot of drop shotting. I've been drop shotting for about 3 1/2 seasons now and have become very efficient at using this technique - under certain circumstances. That being said, I attached the Wiggle rig to the lower drop line of my DS rig. Lowering the rig straight down, I could vary my presentation dramatically in place; from an almost dead stick, to a frantic escape scenario. Side-by-side with my partner using the plain DS rig, there is just no comparison! I can do everything you can with a DS rig and a great deal more. The added benefit for me was the amount of control I now had, without the wrist, elbow and shoulder pain which is inevitably associated with drop shotting over extended periods of time. Best part is I can lower it into a school of smelt in 35' feet of water, let it sit still, allowing my bait to become a part of that school, then suddenly create a frantic escape motion which almost always triggers a strike. You really have to see this rig in action to appreciate the difference and effectiveness it affords you. I've only been using it on smallmouth now for about 3 weeks, so I can't say I have a lot of experience with it - yet, but let me tell you, it's a real "Cracker Jack"! And I can assure you, it will be part of my arsenal for a long time to come. I hope this is of some help to you folks as yet undecided about trying it. Added benefit: it won't cost you much to give it a try - unlike a lot of new lures and techniques around today.

NOW THAT IS HOW YOU SELL A PRODUCT YOU GUYS NEED TO HIRE CRESTLINER2007 TO DO YOUR SALES COPY 8-)

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I got to jump in here for a bit. I ordered some of the Wiggle rigs about a month ago and immediately started using them in very shallow water - so that I could see what the heck it was about and how it would influence my presentation. BTW, I fish a very deep, very clear, hilland type reservoir for smallmouth bass almost exclusively, so I naturally do a lot of drop shotting. I've been drop shotting for about 3 1/2 seasons now and have become very efficient at using this technique - under certain circumstances. That being said, I attached the Wiggle rig to the lower drop line of my DS rig. Lowering the rig straight down, I could vary my presentation dramatically in place; from an almost dead stick, to a frantic escape scenario. Side-by-side with my partner using the plain DS rig, there is just no comparison! I can do everything you can with a DS rig and a great deal more. The added benefit for me was the amount of control I now had, without the wrist, elbow and shoulder pain which is inevitably associated with drop shotting over extended periods of time. Best part is I can lower it into a school of smelt in 35' feet of water, let it sit still, allowing my bait to become a part of that school, then suddenly create a frantic escape motion which almost always triggers a strike. You really have to see this rig in action to appreciate the difference and effectiveness it affords you. I've only been using it on smallmouth now for about 3 weeks, so I can't say I have a lot of experience with it - yet, but let me tell you, it's a real "Cracker Jack"! And I can assure you, it will be part of my arsenal for a long time to come. I hope this is of some help to you folks as yet undecided about trying it. Added benefit: it won't cost you much to give it a try - unlike a lot of new lures and techniques around today.

Thanks for that report

It's just nearly impossible for me to get across, just how effective a fishermen "can" get with his presentation using the Wiggle rig over all other rigs,, and not just in drop shot applications, it works with any soft plastic application were you would use a weight,, even along the banks, and in very stained water

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NOW THAT IS HOW YOU SELL A PRODUCT YOU GUYS NEED TO HIRE CRESTLINER2007 TO DO YOUR SALES COPY 8-)

I could have made the same post, but people would not have believed "me"

It was one of the best enforcements of the rig I have ever read.  I need to get permission to post it on my web site

Thanks for the videos.  I have hard time trying out something new that sounds complicated if I don't know that I'm fishing it correctly.  Very interesting concept.  It is very similar to the anglerfish's techniques of catching prey.  I noticed that it looks like its usually fished when dropped straight down.  I don't own a boat and I'm wondering if it is it still usable when casted over long distances?

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Thanks for the videos.  I have hard time trying out something new that sounds complicated if I don't know that I'm fishing it correctly.  Very interesting concept.  It is very similar to the anglerfish's techniques of catching prey.  I noticed that it looks like its usually fished when dropped straight down.  I don't own a boat and I'm wondering if it is it still usable when casted over long distances?

It "is not" usually fished straight down, it is just the only way we can video it.

It is at it's best at the end of a long cast in shallow water

It is so effective from shore,, I have not used my bass boat all year,, why even fool with it ?

I have done most of my fishing from two lakes this year,, both have very large areas where you can bank fish,, I can average 10 bass an hour walking the banks of these two lakes.

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I have done most of my fishing from two lakes this year,, both have very large areas where you can bank fish,, I can average 10 bass an hour walking the banks of these two lakes.

WE ( the customers ) can claim that, you can 't  

If you say it and the everyday Joe who thinks he just found the magic wand of bass fishing when purchasing your product reads that and he doesn 't get those 10 bass an hour you are saying you get when fishing with your product then the first thing he 's going to feel is that he got screwed and begins to bad mouth it.

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I have done most of my fishing from two lakes this year,, both have very large areas where you can bank fish,, I can average 10 bass an hour walking the banks of these two lakes.

WE ( the customers ) can claim that, you can 't  

If you say it and the everyday Joe who thinks he just found the magic wand of bass fishing when purchasing your product reads that and he doesn 't get those 10 bass an hour you are saying you get when fishing with your product then the first thing he 's going to feel is that he got screwed and begins to bad mouth it.

Good point

I just got back from doing some "bank" fishing this morning

Fished from 10:15 to 12:30 I caught 31 Spotted bass  from 1/2 to 1 1/2 pounds

The guy next to me had to try the rig, as he was being skunked, I rigged up one of his rods,, he caught only 6 in the last hour I was there, while I caught 13 standing beside him.  Same lure, with me giving him instructions. It is a rig that needs to be practiced with

I've been using this rig many years. I always out catch everyone else ,, well almost, my 9 year old grand daughter gives me a run for the money, she has beaten me a few times with her using it.

The place we were fishing is the discharge from a 17,000 GPM pump that fills the lake.  it's like fishing behind a dam, shad really pile in there and the bass follow them

A question and a couple of suggestions

The question: you impale the bait on the hook or nose hook it ?

Suggestion No1.- it 's pretty neat to see the way the bait moves in the video, but the viewer can 't see how you are moving the rod, it would be better IMHO, to have the video with both, you showing how to move the rod and how the bait reacts to it. I know you have an instructional video but a glance on how you move the rod would certainly leave the viewer thirsty for knowledge and BAM! you hook us tackle junkies with both, the rig and the video.  

Suggestion No2.- The narrative in the video is good, but in parts it 's hard to understand, a person with a more clear way of speaking would be better.

I'm not sure how to take a "quote" out of another post on this site, so I'll quote you as I remember it: You said something to the effect that your Wiggle rig works best "when fish are on the bottom or on structure". And that it won't work for suspended fish. I have to contradict that statement. Using the Wiggle Rig on a drop shot, over suspended bass following bait balls cruising 30' - 35' down over 55' of water, I was successfully able to lower to that depth, watching the rig's movement on my sonar. It didn't take long before I nailed a nice 1 1/2 lb. smallie and one that registered 3.25 pounds on my digital scale, before the school broke up. That happened this past Saturday. The action of the rig fished verticle like this (suspended over bait), is nothing short of remarkable. So please be careful in saying your rig has limitations. From what I've read and my very limited experience with this rig, I'd say you may be missing the boat!

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A question and a couple of suggestions

The question: you impale the bait on the hook or nose hook it ?

Suggestion No1.- it 's pretty neat to see the way the bait moves in the video, but the viewer can 't see how you are moving the rod, it would be better IMHO, to have the video with both, you showing how to move the rod and how the bait reacts to it. I know you have an instructional video but a glance on how you move the rod would certainly leave the viewer thirsty for knowledge and BAM! you hook us tackle junkies with both, the rig and the video.  

Suggestion No2.- The narrative in the video is good, but in parts it 's hard to understand, a person with a more clear way of speaking would be better.

Hooking the lure depends on the lure, and where your fishing it,, you want to rig weedless if snags are a problem

On the video,, I need them done professionally ,, I know that, and am working on getting it done

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I'm not sure how to take a "quote" out of another post on this site, so I'll quote you as I remember it: You said something to the effect that your Wiggle rig works best "when fish are on the bottom or on structure". And that it won't work for suspended fish. I have to contradict that statement. Using the Wiggle Rig on a drop shot, over suspended bass following bait balls cruising 30' - 35' down over 55' of water, I was successfully able to lower to that depth, watching the rig's movement on my sonar. It didn't take long before I nailed a nice 1 1/2 lb. smallie and one that registered 3.25 pounds on my digital scale, before the school broke up. That happened this past Saturday. The action of the rig fished verticle like this (suspended over bait), is nothing short of remarkable. So please be careful in saying your rig has limitations. From what I've read and my very limited experience with this rig, I'd say you may be missing the boat!

I have heard of fishermen doing this with the rig, I never have,, most people cast for these fish

Here is the type emails I get on the rig

http://ezknot.com/kail.html

Now Tom has told no one he fishes against, about the rig, he lets me use this on the web site because he thinks if they ever find the site, the jig is up anyway  

Good point in all.... thing is we ALL are addicted to a animal with a brain the size of a cherry on a cig it might be small but it means business .Makes u wonder if bass could think /talk  would we be having so much fun .I for one am glad a bass cannot comprehend between a lure that is still or moving.I have caught many bass with a jig sitting still or even a plastic worm.wether a bass associates a still lure for food we wont know all i know is they bite them as well slow moving/fast/ superfast lures

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Good point in all.... thing is we ALL are addicted to a animal with a brain the size of a cherry on a cig it might be small but it means business .Makes u wonder if bass could think /talk  would we be having so much fun .I for one am glad a bass cannot comprehend between a lure that is still or moving.I have caught many bass with a jig sitting still or even a plastic worm.wether a bass associates a still lure for food we wont know all i know is they bite them as well slow moving/fast/ superfast lures

That is very true,, BUT, the thing we strive for is getting "every" bass to hit a lure, that is the goal of every fisherman, and every lure manufacture,, every bass will not hit a non moving lure, every time. I have fished against dead stickers, (in the same boat), they caught fish, I caught 10 to their 1, while wiggling, that was the lowest average of the many such test that were done. Now if needed I could easily dead stick the lure while it's attached to the Wiggle rig,, I never did it in these test, but I could have.

That's one of the great features of using the Wiggle rig,, you can do anything with it, and do things no one else can do with any other method.

Just to let you know Standout. I placed another order for the tear drop setup.

Hopefully I will be able to try the finesse rig that I purchased a month ago along with the tear drop rig before the snow falls here in WNY.

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Just to let you know Standout. I placed another order for the tear drop setup.

Hopefully I will be able to try the finesse rig that I purchased a month ago along with the tear drop rig before the snow falls here in WNY.

They are already in the mail,, thanks

I understand this rig is also awesome for ice fishing  

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Just to let you know Standout. I placed another order for the tear drop setup.

Hopefully I will be able to try the finesse rig that I purchased a month ago along with the tear drop rig before the snow falls here in WNY.

They are already in the mail,, thanks

I understand this rig is also awesome for ice fishing

Don't ice fish but maybe this year is the year that I give it go.

Thanks for the fast shipping. Last time I ordered the rig, it came three days later. Very impressed with the fast service.

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