How to match the hatch on yellow perch 2024
Sharkicane reply :
Hey all,
I am just curious because the local lake I fish has yellow perch as the main forage (or so I think it’s at least the bait fish I can see close to the bank) not sure if any blue gill are in this lake or not.
Now if im trying to match the hatch to yellow perch can I use some bluegill imitators? I know they don’t really look a like to me but to a bass idk. I’m asking primarily because while some baits/lures do have perch patterns some do not. Yet they have bluegill.
For example would something like this with a green pumpkin trailer work? To match a yellow perch?
CroakHunter reply :
Looks perchy to me.
J.Vincent reply :
You could always easily change out the skirt to something with a tad more yellow and orange, while keeping the same SwimJig head . But I'm willing to bet that jig should work as is if the water isn't ultra clear
A-Jay reply :
Learn how to make your own shirts.
Then just pick a head & hook design you like along with the trailer of your choice and you'er good.
I fish 'perch as bait' heavy waters, and what I have routinely found is that a bait doesn't 'need to look exactly' like whatever, usually just close is good. And sometimes having more of just one of the primary colors is better.
A-Jay
cgolf reply :
My advice is to not overdue the orange, perch only have orange on their fins and generally very little and don't forget a touch of white for their belly. If a bass is looking up at your bait the white on the bottom is helpful. If you want to be all in, they do have black on top too:)
My 2 attempts are on bottom.
Munkin reply :
I use 2 or 3 different skirts that resemble different perch/panfish.
Allen
Sharkicane reply :
On 6/20/2018 at 9:06 PM, A-Jay said:
Learn how to make your own shirts.
Then just pick a head & hook design you like along with the trailer of your choice and you'er good.
I fish 'perch as bait' heavy waters, and what I have routinely found is that a bait doesn't 'need to look exactly' like whatever, usually just close is good. And sometimes having more of just one of the primary colors is better.
A-Jay
Do you find it cheaper to make your own jigs?
tcal4404 reply :
I've had a killer day using a perch pattern squarebill
Sharkicane reply :
@A-Jay @Munkin @cgolf if I start to try to make my own where do I start from, like where do y’all buy the skirts/jig heads at?
Munkin reply :
JannsNetcraft, Fishingskirts.com, Barlows Tackle, and LurePartsOnline are the major places.
Allen
cgolf reply :
Also want to throw out TW although their stock can suck at times, but is a good place to get a few colors to start out with if you don't plan on buying in bulk and of course you can get other tackle too;) This is where I got my starting stash of colors, when I need to order again I will likely do a bigger order from fishingskirts.com.
Sharkicane reply :
On 6/21/2018 at 1:06 AM, cgolf said:Also want to throw out TW although their stock can suck at times, but is a good place to get a few colors to start out with if you don't plan on buying in bulk and of course you can get other tackle too;) This is where I got my starting stash of colors, when I need to order again I will likely do a bigger order from fishingskirts.com.
so TW is where you mainly get your jig heads?
cgolf reply :
Right now I have gotten my jigheads through them. I primarily use the Santone Rayburn heads but also like the outcast swim jig heads. The Omega heads in the picture haven't been used yet so not sure what I think of them. I think fishingskirts carries the Boss line of heads.
I also had a lot of older spinnerbaits that needed new skirts too.
Munkin reply :
http://www.lurepartsonline.com/Online-Store/Classic-Series/
Lurepartsonline has a good selection of pre-made heads.
Allen
Sharkicane reply :
On 6/21/2018 at 2:36 AM, Munkin said:http://www.lurepartsonline.com/Online-Store/Classic-Series/
Lurepartsonline has a good selection of pre-made heads.
Allen
Nice I really like there prices. If my math is on it’d cost ~ 2.50 per jig with shipping. That would make dealing with getting one snagged much easier than 5-7 dollars per jig lol.
MassYak85 reply :
If you want to step into the swimbait game, with these ^
Otherwise I use swimjigs a lot. There's a lot of crossover between the sunfish and perch patterns usually so I honestly don't know which the bass are always going after.
WRB reply :
Perch have vertical dark contrasting bars, green back, yellowish/gold background with dark green bars and orange fins. That pattern and colors should work; i.e. Fire Tiger.
Tom
cgolf reply :
On 6/21/2018 at 2:36 AM, Munkin said:http://www.lurepartsonline.com/Online-Store/Classic-Series/
Lurepartsonline has a good selection of pre-made heads.
Allen
A little off topic, but thanks for the link their Ned heads look nice and they have smaller hooks than the Seibert Morels.
On 6/21/2018 at 6:05 AM, WRB said:Perch have vertical dark contrasting bars, green back, yellowish/gold background with dark green bars and orange fins. That pattern and colors should work; i.e. Fire Tiger.
Tom
Fire tiger cranks have been a staple color for WI bass even in gin clear water. The only bummer is the fire tiger jig skirts I have found have all the right colors, just not the same look as a crank, real jumbled. Wonder if I take a sharpie to the jigs I tied above to add the vertical bars if it would make a difference or not?
WRB reply :
Barlows Tackle has striped silicone skirt layers #220 & 229 look like good perch skirts, add a perch swimbait trailer and you are good go.
Tom
Paul Roberts reply :
MtH has much more to do with context: where, when, and how than what the lure looks like in hand.
Way north bass guy reply :
This guy has been a great bait for me for both largemouth and smallmouth in the lakes around my place the last few years, works well for either a perch or bluegill imitation.
A-Jay reply :
On 6/20/2018 at 11:12 PM, Sharkicane said:Do you find it cheaper to make your own jigs?
Not really cheaper ~
But in the end, I do get exactly what I want.
The other side of that is I have no one else to blame when I don't get bit . .
A-Jay
Munkin reply :
On 6/20/2018 at 11:12 PM, Sharkicane said:Do you find it cheaper to make your own jigs?
After an initial investment yes but like A-Jay said you make exactly what you want.
Problem with making them is you just started a new hobby which will cost you. My current issue is I bought some new aluminum swimbait molds and my wife will not let me pour in the basement anymore. She says it stinks up the house and my garage does not have power.
Allen
FishDewd reply :
On 6/21/2018 at 8:22 AM, Way north bass guy said:This guy has been a great bait for me for both largemouth and smallmouth in the lakes around my place the last few years, works well for either a perch or bluegill imitation.
I have something similar to this, that is really old, is made of balsa, and appears to have been hand made back in the day. It belonged to my great uncle Terri, so it has some sentimental value and I've never actually used it. Plus it needs a set of new split rings and hooks before it could be used.
Munkin reply :
On 6/22/2018 at 12:10 AM, FishDewd said:I have something similar to this, that is really old, is made of balsa, and appears to have been hand made back in the day. It belonged to my great uncle Terri, so it has some sentimental value and I've never actually used it. Plus it needs a set of new split rings and hooks before it could be used.
You sure that is a Balsa bait? It looks like a early 70's floating Smithwick Rogue. Does it have ROGUE in block letters on the belly by the front hook?
Allen
On 6/21/2018 at 7:30 AM, cgolf said:A little off topic, but thanks for the link their Ned heads look nice and they have smaller hooks than the Seibert Morels.
If you plan on ordering a lot of them just order directly from Jim at Cast Industries as they make them for LurePartsOnline.
Allen
Comfortably Numb reply :
When I lived up north Firetiger was a great Perch imitator.
In cranks, most companies offer a Perch color or bluegill will work fine too.
Fishingskirts.com Get the BOSS heads and either premade skirts or make your own from the tabs they sell. Easy to do with the cheap lil tool they sell and fun.
Here is one I made from tabs.
These are great around lillies and weeds. Rapala weedless shad
FishDewd reply :
On 6/22/2018 at 12:21 AM, Munkin said:
You sure that is a Balsa bait? It looks like a early 70's floating Smithwick Rogue. Does it have ROGUE in block letters on the belly by the front hook?
Allen
If you plan on ordering a lot of them just order directly from Jim at Cast Industries as they make them for LurePartsOnline.
Allen
As far as I know it doesn't. I've looked and never noticed any wording on it. But I will look again when I get home. It does feel like wood to me and it has a slight rattle when shaken.
FishDewd reply :
On 6/22/2018 at 3:35 AM, FishDewd said:As far as I know it doesn't. I've looked and never noticed any wording on it. But I will look again when I get home. It does feel like wood to me and it has a slight rattle when shaken.
Confirmed it has no lettering. Also, I now see obvious signs that the bill was glued in cause there is some residue around the edges. I bet it works well though, I just need to learn how to work a jerkbait.
@Comfortably Numb That is a good looking jig. I may have to try my hand at making on like that at some point, but I am thinking I'd like some yellow on the bottom rather than orange. I love the black striping in that skirt.
Comfortably Numb reply :
That's whats best makin your own skirts. You can add as many strands of what you want.
FishDewd reply :
On 6/22/2018 at 2:40 AM, Comfortably Numb said:When I lived up north Firetiger was a great Perch imitator.
In cranks, most companies offer a Perch color or bluegill will work fine too.
Fishingskirts.com Get the BOSS heads and either premade skirts or make your own from the tabs they sell. Easy to do with the cheap lil tool they sell and fun.
Here is one I made from tabs.
These are great around lillies and weeds. Rapala weedless shad
I've been looking at swim jig heads and tabs. I am wanting something similar to what you have here with the black striations in the threads, but I am wanting a little different colors scheme. The main prey items in the water here are perch (bluegill, possibly yellow perch, other sunfish species), as well as crawfish (ours tend to be mud colored or develop a lot of red when mature).
To start with, I am wanting to go for perch patterns. I looked through fishingskirts.com and most of the the boss heads come in a 4 pack which is great because it means I can make 4 slightly different patterns to see what the bass like best. Do you have a source for those black striped skirt tabs? I looked through their tabs and don't see any that quite match what I am wanting to do with the striping.
Comfortably Numb reply :
Wow that page has changed. I only see living image tabs. No plain color, barbed wire, half barbed wire, flake etc. No search feature either unless i'm looking wrong.
Here is the one I used called Yellow Jacket.
https://fishingskirts.com/product/living-image-089b-yellow-jacket-463/
Email me if you want my old skirt recipe book.
bullpupp@comcast.net
mattkenzer reply :
On 6/20/2018 at 9:06 PM, A-Jay said:And sometimes having more of just one of the primary colors is better.
This is an important point A-Jay is making.
And yes, even orange as the primary color will at times, get the job done ..... 
FishDewd reply :
On 6/28/2018 at 12:42 AM, Comfortably Numb said:Wow that page has changed. I only see living image tabs. No plain color, barbed wire, half barbed wire, flake etc. No search feature either unless i'm looking wrong.
Here is the one I used called Yellow Jacket.
https://fishingskirts.com/product/living-image-089b-yellow-jacket-463/
Email me if you want my old skirt recipe book.
bullpupp@comcast.net
Ah in your picture it looked more green but that's a cool pattern for sure.
I found the half barbed wire as "half wire". They seem to have all of that they just called it a little different than they may have before. Thanks though, I hadn't gone through all of those options and I'm seeing stuff I would like in a jig now that I've figured out what all the stuff on there is.
Yesterday I picked up a 6th sense divine jig that was on sale at Cabela's. Normally I wouldn't spend $4.99 on a jig, but it really impressed me with the colors, not to mention the head design is amazing. Pretty good perch imitation, so I am using it as the basis for what I'd like in a jig. If it had some white on the bottom and black on top it'd be pretty much perfect.
Comfortably Numb reply :
Using the "Pen" style tool is easy to put skirts together with tabs. I usually use three tabs.
However layering the tabs can be difficult with that tool. In other words having a back color, center color and belly color. The more expensive band spreaders make this easier.
Spankey reply :
Rapala has two perch versions of DT's ,Shad Raps, and floater divers. I have them in in a few sizes. Very productive.
Yellow perch are not a main forage base where I fish but they work.
I can post a pic but they will be easy to find online.
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