Anybody notice any advantage in having a chartreuse tail on green pumpkin Senko/Trick Worm/ Finesse Worm style soft plastics?
Honestly, sometimes they like that extra little
flash of color, other times not so much.
I've tried the Senkos with that feature...not so
successful; however, the Zoom Finesse and
Trick worms with the chart tail have done well.
I hate chartreuse on anything. Honestly don't think that little bit of color makes any difference. But this is also coming from someone who fishes the "easy" waters of Northern NY. lol
i find they attract more smallies if they have a little chart colour in them
Another thought....green pumpkin is supposed to be a natural color for clear water (most people's view I'd say). I would think the added chartreuse contradicts that?
On 5/16/2016 at 10:02 PM, RichF said:Another thought....green pumpkin is supposed to be a natural color for clear water (most people's view I'd say). I would think the added chartreuse contradicts that?
Adding chartreuse tips, tails, dots w/e to any bait is 2 fold. For dirty water it just adds a bright contrast. In clear water, it adds a common color that lots of species of baitfish have on their scales or tails. Bluegill have chartreuse on their tails, some species of shad have it on the sides, perch have it on their body, and the list goes on. Sometimes it helps to add it to the bait, some timest it doesn't, and sometimes it doesn't make any difference. In my stretch of the Mississippi and pools north, smallmouth love baits /w tips died chartreuse.
On 5/16/2016 at 9:59 PM, Scarborough817 said:i find they attract more smallies if they have a little chart colour in them
Same thing with spots, sometimes dipping the tail etc in chartruese or red will draw them in better.
When LMB are targeting bluegill chartreuse tails tend to trigger strikes. Smallmouth and spots seem to like brighter color tails like chartruese, hot pink and orange anytime.
Tom
It's a confidence thing for me personally.
Why torture yourself questioning which one is better ? get both ..... now the question will be which one will be better at any given time.
jj's magic is your friend...sometimes its called for...sometimes not
On 5/16/2016 at 10:02 PM, RichF said:Another thought....green pumpkin is supposed to be a natural color for clear water (most people's view I'd say). I would think the added chartreuse contradicts that?
Think of it like adding a spinner for a little flash to draw more attention and it will make more sense to you.
Generally I only do it on finesse presentations, I don't know why. Generally I fish senkos or other stick baits stock and like solid colors. For drop shots, shakeyheads, ned rigs I sometimes like to add chartreuse to the end of the tail. If nothing else just to change things up a bit. If I am not getting any bites on the normal worm then changing it a little gives me a little more confidence since I'm giving a "new" bait a chance.
On 5/16/2016 at 11:49 PM, Choporoz said:jj's magic is your friend...sometimes its called for...sometimes not
^^^ what he said
On 5/16/2016 at 11:49 PM, Choporoz said:jj's magic is your friend...sometimes its called for...sometimes not
Ok, now let´s split hairs, which color ? chartreuse, methylate, blue or red ? I mean, just to add more confusion.
Raul, I saw you over by the Bait Monkey thread...apparently you weren't paying attention. All of them, of course.
On 5/17/2016 at 3:35 AM, Choporoz said:Raul, I saw you over by the Bait Monkey thread...apparently you weren't paying attention. All of them, of course.
I didn´t mean which ones to purchase, it´s obvious you "NEED" all ...... I mean with which one are you gonna pick to dye the tip of them baits...... red or blue, chartreuse or methyolate ? that is the question !
On 5/17/2016 at 3:32 AM, Raul said:Ok, now let´s split hairs, which color ? chartreuse, methylate, blue or red ? I mean, just to add more confusion.
Frankly, I don't even think the colors are nearly as important as the scent and taste.
I use mainly clear, chartreuse, and an orange or purple mix that I made with chartreuse and methylate (Orange) or methylate and blue (purple).
It's easy to go thru a bottle of clear, once you start adding drops to bags of plastics using an eye dropper. Then you can use that empty bottle for mixing.
First senko I throw is a Green Pumpkin, if they're not onto that, second is one with the chart tail.
On 5/16/2016 at 11:23 PM, WRB said:When LMB are targeting bluegill chartreuse tails tend to trigger strikes. Smallmouth and spots seem to like brighter color tails like chartruese, hot pink and orange anytime.
Tom
All our bluegills have a touch of chartreuse on the tail. It makes a huge difference sometimes.
On 5/16/2016 at 9:59 PM, Scarborough817 said:i find they attract more smallies if they have a little chart colour in them
This is a big thing I've noticed as well. If I'm after smallies with a shakyhead, the plastic is almost always going to get dipped in JJ's. My biggest smallmouth from a very pressured local lake was on a shakyhead with a 4" green pumpkin/chart BPS Stick O.
I just got a 4 pack of spike it markers for under 10$ shipped from the big bay. Orange red blue and chatruse. The pens don't work as well as the dipping colors on the darker baits. If you think the chartruse pen will color a black blue senkos tail it won't show up as well as the dip. Also I noticed the color doesn't last that long. I do like the fact I can change a white fluke and add yellow and green stripes with a orange belly to make it look like a perch, the main forage where I fish. Back to dipping tails. I only dip a tiny bit, minimal is better I think.
This is how I do it. Some would say that I do "OK"....
Clear water:
Sunny days- watermelon candy for soft plastics. Translucent " natural " colors for reaction baits.
Cloudy days- green pumpkin for soft plastics, and solid natural colors in reaction baits.
Algae bloom stained green water:
Sunny days- green pumpkin with chartreuse tip for soft plastics. White if I am throwing reaction baits.
Cloudy days- Black and blue, or june bug for soft plastics, chartreuse, orange, red, and black reaction baits.
"Dirty" brown/muddy water:
Black and blue no matter the sky/light conditions for soft plastics/jigs....chartreuse and black reaction baits.
There are some situations where I don't follow this, for example:
Sunny day, clear water, but I am fishing under docks, or mats.... IE shady dark places.... I will go with a darker color there.
When shaky heading my first choice is always a finese worm with chartreuse tip or one of the bold bluegill or witches t roboworm colors. All have chart in them
On 5/16/2016 at 7:53 PM, Darren. said:Honestly, sometimes they like that extra little
flash of color, other times not so much.I've tried the Senkos with that feature...not so
successful; however, the Zoom Finesse and
Trick worms with the chart tail have done well.
This^^^
I've tried the Roboworm Hot Tips and really haven't seen much of a difference in strike rates, at least not enough for me to switch over to them or routinely hook one up!
On 5/16/2016 at 7:53 PM, Darren. said:Honestly, sometimes they like that extra little
flash of color, other times not so much.I've tried the Senkos with that feature...not so
successful; however, the Zoom Finesse and
Trick worms with the chart tail have done well.
agree
late winter, spring i will dip a gp lizard tail about a full inch. as the spring evolves into summer it's a half inch or less depending on water clarity, and my plastics then include gp worms (shakey tails, u tails) and power worms. my favorite deep water (20-30'), summer combo is a black bullet, gp worm and a little dip for the tail. i have also experimented with white ice flukes by adding small ticks of chartreuse to the tail but the jury is still out on that one.
The color green pumpkin with Zoom has put many bass in my boat and conquered at the bank with the Trick, Finesse and Lizard presentations. Some big ones have also been caught with motor oil with a chartreuse tail.
Good Fishing.
I talked to a Pro on the FLW Tour who said that while he likes a dipped color tail - he likes to use a lot less than found on typical colored tail worms in stores ... About 3/8th to 1/4 inch dipped in JJ's is what he uses - just enough to interest a bass but less than the 3/4th inch + dipped worms found in the stores .
I've never had much luck using soft baits that come out of the package with a chartreuse tail, no idea why? BUT I almost always dip the tail/claws of my softbait into Spike-It chartreuse before using it. Maybe it really works for maybe it's just a confidence thing. Our local crayfish have orange-tipped claws so I just bought an orange marker to color my craw tips too.