The lake I'm going to fish has lots of submerged grass but there is only a couple of inches of water between the top of the grass and the surface...the lake is also very clear and has other cover like tree trunks and logs mixed in.....what would be yalls best color, trailer, retrieve, ect. I am also open to try other lures....the lake also has a lot of fishing pressure
Clear water = Natural colors. What is your lake forage? Bluegill/sunfish? Shad? Crayfish? The lakes I fish I weedy and pretty clear to slightly stained. I almost always have some sort of bluegill pattern/colors on my lines. If it gets stained or becomes low light, I'll darken up the colors.
On 5/14/2013 at 3:55 AM, MarkH024 said:Clear water = Natural colors. What is your lake forage? Bluegill/sunfish? Shad? Crayfish? The lakes I fish I weedy and pretty clear to slightly stained. I almost always have some sort of bluegill pattern/colors on my lines. If it gets stained or becomes low light, I'll darken up the colors.
Its a public fishing lake with lots of pressure and I know there are tons of bluegill in the lakes....what kind and color trailer would best fit a bluegill pattern
On 5/14/2013 at 3:59 AM, Smallieslayer2234 said:Its a public fishing lake with lots of pressure and I know there are tons of bluegill in the lakes....what kind and color trailer would best fit a bluegill pattern
Green Pumpkin with a flake (purple,blue, or even red) Watermelon with a flake (red, purple, blue). Junebug for the darker side.
I use a white swim jig with a white single tail grub or a sexy shad swim jig with a white single tail grub. You can also use a twin tail grub or just about anything else you can think of. Lots of guys are having great luck with the Havoc Subwoofer bait as a jig trailer.
If you want to try blue gill colors pretty much everyone makes a jig and trailer in that color.
I usually use a 5/16oz in that type of cover and try and fish it on the outside edges of the grass if I can. If not then I will cast it in the grass and let it drop down into the grass and then slowly reel it back in popping the rod tip every so often as it comes back thru the grass.
Try a strike king bluegill colored swim jig with a reaction innovations skinny dipper in the sun-gill pattern as a trailer. This combination is killer and looks more like a blue gill than anything I have seen yet.
Brovarney 1/4oz swim jig, Gil color, zoom fat Albert grub in cotton candy.
NorthStar Original Swim Jig (bluegill)/ Rage Tail Shell Cracker (green pumpkin/ purple/ gold)
If there is a lot of blue gill I would go with a bluegill pattern keep the jig light if you want to keep it just above the grass . I use a gambler easy swimmer as a trailer on my jigs.
On 5/14/2013 at 6:26 PM, roadwarrior said:NorthStar Original Swim Jig (bluegill)/ Rage Tail Shell Cracker (green pumpkin/ purple/ gold)
You may have given me another combo to try. I only have the NSCB flip n swims. The shell crackers not too much for it?
I like a 1/4 oz for shallow submerged weeds. Sometimes even that is heavy,as it can sink too deep. Lift is important to keep the bait from digging in the grass so a trailer and proper retrieval speed are important. Also, reaction strikes occur from ripping the bait free from grass...so a snag free jig and trailer is a must. I really like a single tail grub for swim jigs, but the strike king menace grub is quickly becoming my favorite trailer. However, the grass pig/ skinny dipper/ swimming caffeine shad all work great and provide lift without catching weeds.
Green pumpkin is always a good color. Works for crawdad and bluegill imitations. White is good too for shad lakes.
This is one I like for grass, it's a 3/4 oz weedless spoon
Either that or I like to throw a lipless crank just cruising the very top of the grass as well as what others have mentioned.
Not that a swim jig, or spinnerbait wouldn't be a good choice, but I'd give a buzz bait a shot under those conditions. It's likely something that the majority of guys aren't using and under heavy fishing pressure, I always like to show them something different.
I will not tell you to not throw a swim jig, since it is my favorite bait to throw. But get yourself a couple packs of 4.5 inch blue gizzard shad swimbaits. Work that through or above the vegetation. 2nd choice, a Smokin Rooster, T Rigged with a 1/8oz weight. Swim that over the vegetation and hold on. I have been in your situation before, when the swim jig fails I resort to these 2 techniques. 1 of the 3 will produce. The thing I like about the Rooster Rig (that's what I call it) is while you're swimming it over the vegetation, you can drop it in little open pockets. The 1/8 oz weight is enough to get the legs and tail moving on the fall. I discovered this rig one time because I couldn't cast a weightless rooster with any success. A Space Monkey is also a good bait to use in this situation.
On 5/14/2013 at 9:13 AM, Megastink said:Brovarney 1/4oz swim jig, Gil color, zoom fat Albert grub in cotton candy.
Your the only other person who has ever mentioned the Brovarney swim jig on this site besides me.It is one of the originals out here in the Midwest. I have caught more bass on a 1/4 oz Brovarney swim jig and pearl Zoom Fat Albert trailer than all other baits combined. It isn't as pretty as other jig makers, but its tough and catches fish.
On 5/15/2013 at 8:44 AM, RyneB said:Your the only other person who has ever mentioned the Brovarney swim jig on this site besides me.It is one of the originals out here in the Midwest. I have caught more bass on a 1/4 oz Brovarney swim jig and pearl Zoom Fat Albert trailer than all other baits combined. It isn't as pretty as other jig makers, but its tough and catches fish.
I lived in Wisconsin from 2010-2012 and belonged to a club out there. It was the first time I had seen a swimjig in action, and boy I got my butt handed to be with it. So, I decided to learn how to use it. Brovarney is locally own out there for being one of the best. And it is a great performer.
It kid of ticks me off when people try to use a swim jig for more than one technique, like flipping and swimming. Those two techniques call for two different jigs. Or when people use too heavy a swimjig (over 3/8oz). Or when people use big-name "swim jigs" like Strike King or BooYah. They have no idea what a real swimjig is or what it does. It's a VERY misunderstood technique.
On 5/15/2013 at 9:59 PM, Megastink said:I lived in Wisconsin from 2010-2012 and belonged to a club out there. It was the first time I had seen a swimjig in action, and boy I got my butt handed to be with it. So, I decided to learn how to use it. Brovarney is locally own out there for being one of the best. And it is a great performer.
It kid of ticks me off when people try to use a swim jig for more than one technique, like flipping and swimming. Those two techniques call for two different jigs. Or when people use too heavy a swimjig (over 3/8oz). Or when people use big-name "swim jigs" like Strike King or BooYah. They have no idea what a real swimjig is or what it does. It's a VERY misunderstood technique.
I know I use a flip n swim jig for both techniques and do very well. I caught my PB in oklahoma flipping one.
On 5/15/2013 at 9:59 PM, Megastink said:It kid of ticks me off when people try to use a swim jig for more than one technique, like flipping and swimming. Those two techniques call for two different jigs. Or when people use too heavy a swimjig (over 3/8oz). Or when people use big-name "swim jigs" like Strike King or BooYah. They have no idea what a real swimjig is or what it does. It's a VERY misunderstood technique.
Why are you letting it tick you off. As long as they are catching fish, it's all good.
On 5/16/2013 at 12:51 AM, georgeyew said:Why are you letting it tick you off. As long as they are catching fish, it's all good.
I know.... I'm just stubborn. A swim jig is a swim jig, and a flipping jig is a flipping jig. It's just me.
Get a 1/2 oz bluegill pattern swim jig, stick a 4" swimbait on the back and go to town. Cast out past the hydrilla line, count to 5, then start retrieving just fast enough to keep it off the bottom. Bass usually hit it right before it enters the hydrilla line or after you pop it off a few weeds.
Funny, I decided to try a swim jig this past weekend and really commit to it for a good part of the day. The morning was unsuccessful -- but so was everything else. In the afternoon, I did quite well on it. I was fishing in 4-6 ft and I would cast it out, let it hit bottom, pop it up and then swim it slowly until I hit something, give it another little pop and go back to swimming it. Almost every hit was immediately after one of the pops, and there was no mistaking the hit -- the bass were pounding it when they struck.
I guess I was swimming it almost exactly the way I do a lipless crankbait, which shouldn't surprise me, as that was the other presentation I was having some luck on.
Better way?
I doesn't hurt to try a variety of retrieves, but I simply use a steady retrieve and depend on the trailer for the "action".
On 5/15/2013 at 8:44 AM, RyneB said:Your the only other person who has ever mentioned the Brovarney swim jig on this site besides me.It is one of the originals out here in the Midwest. I have caught more bass on a 1/4 oz Brovarney swim jig and pearl Zoom Fat Albert trailer than all other baits combined. It isn't as pretty as other jig makers, but its tough and catches fish.
How dare you! I've mentioned their in a few swim jigs topics! I've a huge fan of their swim jigs. I think the small group on here that throws northern style swim jigs are the minority anyway.
Google "power fishing a swim jig by Randy Howell (elite series pro)", it is worth watching.
On 5/15/2013 at 9:59 PM, Megastink said:I lived in Wisconsin from 2010-2012 and belonged to a club out there. It was the first time I had seen a swimjig in action, and boy I got my butt handed to be with it. So, I decided to learn how to use it. Brovarney is locally own out there for being one of the best. And it is a great performer.
It kid of ticks me off when people try to use a swim jig for more than one technique, like flipping and swimming. Those two techniques call for two different jigs. Or when people use too heavy a swimjig (over 3/8oz). Or when people use big-name "swim jigs" like Strike King or BooYah. They have no idea what a real swimjig is or what it does. It's a VERY misunderstood technique.
I have been into the flip/swim jig head, which is a poison tail head. I have even tied a California swim jig. Which is a bigger profile swim jig with a poison tail head with a big swimbait as a trailer. I have been catching some giants on that bait so far this year. But if I needed to make one cast and catch a fish, it would be a 1/4 oz Brovarney swim jig in crappie with a pearl Zoom Fat Albert. If your interested, PM me your address, ill send you a couple flip/swim jigs. The Hack Attack is another good flip/swim jig that will catch a lot of fish. The only problem is you are limited to Strike King colors.
On 5/15/2013 at 3:29 AM, rockchalk06 said:You may have given me another combo to try. I only have the NSCB flip n swims. The shell crackers not too much for it?
I'm fishing a 3/8 oz NorthStar Original Swim Jig with the Shell Cracker trailer. I also fish Seibert Outdoors
swim jig (Elite Series) in both 1/4 and 3/8 oz. Other trailers I recommend: Rage Tail Menace & Single Tail
Grub; Lake Fork Tackle Live Magic Shad; back half of the GYCB Swimming Senko and MegaStrike 3" Fat
Shad.