Never really liked the original Chatterbaits. I have used Strike King's Pure Poison for a few years and really like it. Until I bought and tried a few Z-Man Project Z Chatterbaits. These things are fantastic. From the new line tie to the skirts and colors, I think this is far and away the best bait in this category. Love the Breaking Bream color. But they also have the best colors available IMO. Paired with a Lunker City Swimming Ribster, these rock.
What are all of your favorites? I'll be picking up more of these at T.W. with the 15% off sale.
The new Project Z baits are very nice, a much needed improvement from the original chatterbaits.
I make my own and it's pretty rare I don't have one tied on. Since I started painting blades it really opened up a ton of options.
Do you use paint or powder coat them?On 5/23/2015 at 1:40 PM, Bluebasser86 said:The new Project Z baits are very nice, a much needed improvement from the original chatterbaits.
I make my own and it's pretty rare I don't have one tied on. Since I started painting blades it really opened up a ton of options.
I just picked up my first chatterbait. I got the original ZMan one because Cabelas didn't carry anything else.
On 5/23/2015 at 7:31 PM, Jtrout said:Do you use paint or powder coat them?
The blades and heads are powder painted. The heads are dipped, the blades I hit with an airbrush.
Z-Man Project Z https://zmanfishing.com/store/categories/chatterbait
Rage Blade http://www.basspro.com/Strike-King-Tour-Grade-Rage-Blade-Swim-Jig/product/1306290611017/
Fogy http://www.siebertoutdoors.com/Fogy_c20.htm
Those are pretty slick BB. Nice to not be st the mercy of someone elses sizez and colors. Kent, do you have alot of experience using the Rage Blade? T.W. Has mixed reviews, although mostly good. Seems there is (was) trouble with the snap and it tend tom come to the surface. Can't tell if it has a good trailer keeper. Good color selction also. For me, all I need are Bluegill, Black/ Blue, and Sexy Shad or Z-Man Blueback Herring. Anyone else like the Rage Blade? Price is right.
Bluebasser makes the best I have used. The quality is outstanding. Really like the durability of the finish, eyes on the bait, non football head design, wire tied, larger hook, and endless skirt options. As long as he is making them I will be buying them. Already have received 2 orders from him and everything was and went perfect!
I don't want to hijack the thread but I have a quick question. I use the same heand blade as BlueBasser86, does bending the blade back make a difference? Mine hunt really well and vibrate hard but I see a lot of guys bending the blade back.
I love the rock and roll type that bb makes the hook is completely weed less so it comes through brush piles like a champ it has all but replaced square bills for me
On 5/24/2015 at 1:14 AM, smalljaw67 said:I don't want to hijack the thread but I have a quick question. I use the same heand blade as BlueBasser86, does bending the blade back make a difference? Mine hunt really well and vibrate hard but I see a lot of guys bending the blade back.
Yes it effects the amount of vibration, how much they hunt, and how deep they want to run. Those baits give more thump while baits like the Zmans have A faster, more steady vibration.
The Rage blades are nice too, kind of their own category too since the design is so different. They have to be fished very slowly, which I think is why so many had problems with them at first. I've been playing with the undressed one for awhile and like what it's done so far.
Picasso makes great bladed jigs,there the only ones I use now.
KaRu Lures Vibrashock
On 5/24/2015 at 1:14 AM, smalljaw67 said:I don't want to hijack the thread but I have a quick question. I use the same heand blade as BlueBasser86, does bending the blade back make a difference? Mine hunt really well and vibrate hard but I see a lot of guys bending the blade back.
I have played around with all three styles of bladed jigs : Original Chatterbait style, unbent Shakee head style and the bent Shakee head style. These were my observations concerning the three.
Original Chatterbait style
Vibration: High pitched buzz, least thump
Running depth: Deepest
Hunting Ability: Exhibits the least, pretty much a straight line
Spinnerbait blade analogy – Willow Leaf
Unbent Shakee Bladed Jig
Vibration: Hardest thump
Running depth: Shallowest
Hunting Ability: Exhibits the most, a little twitch is all it takes
Spinnerbait blade analogy – Colorado Blade
Bent Shakee Bladed Jig
Vibration: A little less thump than the unbent variety
Running depth: Deeper than the unbent
Hunting Ability: A little harder to get to hunt than the unbent
Spinnerbait blade analogy – Indiana
Naturally the amount and degree of bend effects the results acchieved with the bent design.
As a side note, I was able to get the Original style to hunt quite well by accident. I inadvertently put the trailer on a little off center. This caused the bait to hunt easily with a little twitch.
I have noticed at times the fish seem to greatly prefer one style over another.
On 5/24/2015 at 8:35 PM, shanksmare said:I have played around with all three styles of bladed jigs : Original Chatterbait style, unbent Shakee head style and the bent Shakee head style. These were my observations concerning the three.
Original Chatterbait style
Vibration: High pitched buzz, least thump
Running depth: Deepest
Hunting Ability: Exhibits the least, pretty much a straight line
Spinnerbait blade analogy – Willow Leaf
Unbent Shakee Bladed Jig
Vibration: Hardest thump
Running depth: Shallowest
Hunting Ability: Exhibits the most, a little twitch is all it takes
Spinnerbait blade analogy – Colorado Blade
Bent Shakee Bladed Jig
Vibration: A little less thump than the unbent variety
Running depth: Deeper than the unbent
Hunting Ability: A little harder to get to hunt than the unbent
Spinnerbait blade analogy – Indiana
Naturally the amount and degree of bend effects the results acchieved with the bent design.
As a side note, I was able to get the Original style to hunt quite well by accident. I inadvertently put the trailer on a little off center. This caused the bait to hunt easily with a little twitch.
I have noticed at times the fish seem to greatly prefer one style over another.
That's interesting. I actually find the unbent blade to run the deepest (referring to natural running depth, not by increasing or decreasing speed, rod tip height, line size, ect.). It also had the least amount of vibration, but did hunt the most. The coffin style (original chatterbait), ran the shallowest, but everything else is spot on. The bent blade was what I found to be the best of all worlds with it's strong vibration, good hunting action, and how easy it was to adjust it's running depth. I'm sure the amount of bend, angle of the bend, distance from the end of the blade, split ring vs. no split ring, along with several other factors effect the action of the bait. Just shows how important experimenting can be in the fishing world
What does hunting mean?
I make 3 different versions, well 2 now since I no longer have the heavy coffin blades I use to have. The version I like is the same head and blade as Bluebasser 86 uses, but I don't bend the blade, the 2nd version I make using a spinnerbait head, that is my buddy's favorite. Wither the spinnerbait head, I have the blade then there is 1/2" of wire until you get to the head, what it does is it allows the bait to thump really hard but it runs straight, no hunting at all, and my buddy likes it running straight as he will work it through lanes in grass beds and he has more control. I'm going to bend some blades using different degrees of bend and see how it works, thanks for letting me know what to expect by bending the blade.
On 5/24/2015 at 9:11 PM, livemusic said:What does hunting mean?
It's when a bait doesn't follow a straight line during the retrieve but instead kicks off to one side or the other without deflecting off of anything.
On 5/24/2015 at 8:52 PM, Bluebasser86 said:That's interesting. I actually find the unbent blade to run the deepest (referring to natural running depth, not by increasing or decreasing speed, rod tip height, line size, ect.). It also had the least amount of vibration, but did hunt the most. The coffin style (original chatterbait), ran the shallowest, but everything else is spot on. The bent blade was what I found to be the best of all worlds with it's strong vibration, good hunting action, and how easy it was to adjust it's running depth. I'm sure the amount of bend, angle of the bend, distance from the end of the blade, split ring vs. no split ring, along with several other factors effect the action of the bait. Just shows how important experimenting can be in the fishing world
I picked up a few bladed jigs made by a fellow here in FL. He uses the same type head as you. Wow, that thing "hunts" without trying!
Most of my bladed jigs were made by Siebert. I believe he was trying to emulate the very popular Karu bladed jig when they stopped making them (they are now back in business). He uses a football jig. The blade hits the head so it creates more commotion.
So I think the shape and weight of the head probably enter into the equation. You also bend your blade much more than I do. I'm sure this also enters into the way the bladed jig performs.
Its may just be me, but if I don't retrieve bladed jigs with the coffin style blades faster than the ones with the Shakee blades, I soon lose them to the rocks which are prevalent where I usually fish (I'm bank bound so once they're hung, they're gone - usually).
Anyone fish the ones with the holes in the blades? Hows the action compared to the others?
On 5/23/2015 at 11:30 PM, kickerfish1 said:Bluebasser makes the best I have used. The quality is outstanding. Really like the durability of the finish, eyes on the bait, non football head design, wire tied, larger hook, and endless skirt options. As long as he is making them I will be buying them. Already have received 2 orders from him and everything was and went perfect!
where do you buy bluebasser86 chatter b aits.
Send him a PMOn 5/28/2015 at 10:41 PM, jigerman said:where do you buy bluebasser86 chatter b aits.
On 5/28/2015 at 10:41 PM, jigerman said:where do you buy bluebasser86 chatter b aits.
prepare yourself for the addiction
mr. bluebasser86 where do I buy your chatter baits.
On 5/28/2015 at 11:04 PM, jigerman said:mr. bluebasser86 where do I buy your chatter baits.
PM sent
Curious, what do you guys consider the molix lover? I had high hopes for the bait but haven't catch a single fish on it yet. While my chatterbait has been doing leaps and bounds.
bluebasser86 tell me how to get in touch with you. send me a email with addressor i will send you my phone number.dont know your email address
bluebasser86 could you put all your colors and their names up soi can tell you what i want. iwant all in 3/8s. ihave got to figure out how to get your email address.THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
On 5/30/2015 at 9:18 AM, jigerman said:bluebasser86 could you put all your colors and their names up soi can tell you what i want. iwant all in 3/8s. ihave got to figure out how to get your email address.THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
My email is listed under my profile (click on my screen name). I sent you a PM and an email though.
Still own and throw some of the original Phenix Vibrator Jigs, the lure Brett Hite used to win an FLW Tour tournament on Florida’s Lake Toho and an FLW Series event on the California Delta in early 2008 (back to back). They were sued by Z-Man and had to stop making them back in 2011, but for those that still have the originals, including many pros, they'll tell you they are one of the best ever made in that style of bait.
-T9
I've tried several brands and even started making my own. I still find myself coming back to the Zman originals. I don't like the hooks but they just run better then anything else. My 3 biggest fish this year have been on the Zman. My fish like the tighter wobble and faster speed that I've only found possible in the originals.
I've spent countless hours looking for a bite on the original but have never even had one follow it!On 5/30/2015 at 12:38 PM, UCPOPO said:I've tried several brands and even started making my own. I still find myself coming back to the Zman originals. I don't like the hooks but they just run better then anything else. My 3 biggest fish this year have been on the Zman. My fish like the tighter wobble and faster speed that I've only found possible in the originals.
What trailers do you use for it?
On 5/30/2015 at 1:01 PM, *Hank said:I've spent countless hours looking for a bite on the original but have never even had one follow it!
What trailers do you use for it?
I use the 3/8 ounce with a 3" twin trailer. I'm am a bit spoiled though. I live on a private lake and am the only one who fishes it and it's full of good fish.
On 5/30/2015 at 1:09 PM, UCPOPO said:I use the 3/8 ounce with a 3" twin trailer. I'm am a bit spoiled though. I live on a private lake and am the only one who fishes it and it's full of good fish.
Ya you could catch em on just about anything In a situation like that,I will try that though.