What's your experience with this? Since the're cheaper I was just wondering.
To answer your title question: No,they are not as soft as a senko,they have a different drop rate and a totally different texture.Not to say that Tiki's arent a good alternative to the expensive Yamamoto baits but NOTHING equals a senko.
I use senko copies for the reasons:
they r much cheaper
they last longer
they have differnet fall rate
everybody is throwing senkos
My PB was caught on a senko copy
I do just fine with tiki sticks
I believe they are just as good, or even better. They are actually about as soft as a senko, and they wiggle pretty good in the water. I actually had luck with luck-e-strike's jogger worm, wich is as hard as a rock and has no action.
There is a trade off when using the Tikki Stick compared to the Senco. The Tikki , as already stated is not as soft. You do sacrifice some action, but it is made up in durability. I use the Tikkis more than the Sencos just because they are more readliy avaliable in my area. I have caught fish on both, and have confidence in both.
i have had as much luck w/ the tiki sticks as w/ my senkos. but as many have said they are much cheaper and last longer than 1 fish.
I do use senko knock offs, but I don't like the fall of the tiki stiks and haven't had as much luck with them as some others.
I've done a bit of field testing with stick worms and I cannot discern any difference in the effectiveness
between yamasenko and tiki stick.
The senko is super soft and falls apart easily. Do bass prefer the softest stick worm?
Well they love biting down on hard crunchy crayfish, so no stick worm is too hard.
Of course, with harder plastic comes a sacrifice in action. Take the time to compare the "tail waddle"
between the senko and tiki stick. You may notice slightly more action in the senko, but more action
isn't automagically a good thing. Over the years, fisherman have moved away from action-tail worms
like "sickletails" (gatortail) in favor of ribbontail worms and straight worms. I'd say it's a judgment call.
The salt content in senkos seems to be heaviest toward the tail, because they tend to fall with the tail
lower than the head. For this same reason, senkos tend to back-up on the fall as they near the boat.
The tiki stick falls more horizontally, which I personally prefer.
The senko falls faster than the tiki stick, which in shallow water gives the nod to tiki stick.
If you're fishing a tiki stick in deeper water, adding a 1/32 oz weight will virtually duplicate the fall rate
of a senko. The tiki stick is my wife's favorite stick worm. Mine is the Yum dinger,
but if she out-fishes me one more time, mine will probably be the tiki stick too ;D
Roger
I LIKE Tiki Sticks, but for some reason I only catch small fish with them. I turn to them when I'm hard up for ANY kind of bite this side of a mosquito.
Marion
I have two brands of the Senko style baits. Kinami Flash and the Tiki Bam Boo Stiks.
My fishing partner almost exclusively uses GY Senkos. There are days we clean up on the Flash/Senkos and there are days that all they want are the Tiki's.
No, I dont like tiki sticks at all. To put it simply, I have fished tiki sticks for hours and never caught a thing. I fished the senko for about a minute and caught a nice keeper.
The Tikis are good baits. The Tikis I use are the swirl series, as GYCB does not have one.
Brad
Yes the Tikis are a nice bait.Senkos are a nice bait.I have used both of them and have caught fish on both.Tikis do last longer then the senkos but hey if the senkos catch fish i dont mind putting some in the thrash when i cant use them.
Scoot
I have used both tiki's and senko's and have caught fish on both. I do however think that the tiki's fall a bit faster and are not as soft as the senkos, but the main difference is that I think the sinko's are more soft and fish are more opt to hold on to the lure for a short time longer. As I said earlier, both will get you bites, but I am sticking with the sinko for confidence reasons.
I've fished Tiki stiks and Kinami flashes(Senkos).I've caught fish on both,but I do like the Kinami bait better.
QuoteTo answer your title question: No,they are not as soft as a senko
Actually the question is do they work as well.
In the water I fish Yes. As well as many other knock offs. Not all but many.
Thank you ROLO!
I posted a 3 month data sheet last summer of me vs my partner who would use GY exclusively as a test "control". Some days I did better, some days he did better but neither was ever a strong winner over the other. My largest fish last year was caught on an *** senko knock-off in "tomato craw".
His best fish on a senko was over a pound smaller.
Many will argue this one till they are blue in the face. We did that in a 6 page thread last year and I for one AINT goin' there again! I just went and did my own comparison test and will live with my own results but just for the record, the livewell hasn't been a lonely place for a fish to hang out.
I fish a private lake that the bass will only bite on white lures. The white tiki outfishes the white senko and the white kinami flash every time.
I think I've fished 'em all. Tiki Stiks, Senko's, Kinami Flash, and ***. The *** are the cheapest especially if you buy a lg. quantity. I have so far not found any one to be any better than the other. I think color and action play a larger part than squishiness personally. I've pulled bass clear up to the boat with all of these baits with no hook in the fishes mouth. I've yet to actually land one or bring one to hand without being hooked, but I've been really close. They're all good baits IMO.
I use Yum dingers, Tiki sticks, and Senkos (kanami flash too) My favorite are the Yum dingers, then the senkos, followed by the tiki sticks. When the bite is really hot I use the tiki sticks, they don't rip as much and I can get a few more fish out of them. But I find they don't "wiggle" on the fall as much as the others. I have actually caught more fish on the Yum Dingers than both the senkos and tikis combined. The plus side to the dingers is they are cheap, come in more color/size combos than tikis, BUT they are soft and rip just as easy as senkos (thats where the cheap part come in as beeing good). The only down side to the dingers is my local wal-mart does not carry them, they carry the tiki sticks, so I stock up on them when ever I go to bass pro shops, or dicks, and if I run out use the tikis from wal mart as a substitute till I can restock
in my part of alabama wal-mart is all i have local to buy fishing items and they dont sell g/y but have a good supply of tikki..........
in my experience i think the senkos are superior. the action is imo superior and bass seem to hold on much longer than they do the knockoffs. unfortunately im on a budget and i often use the other worms when im fishing less than the most important times. in farm ponds or the river where i go through a lot of lures i use other worms. i like the case ones the best but have had success with dingers as well as many others. basically you may have a personal preference to what is best (imo the senko) but they are all good baits that catch fish.
matty
I use Tiki's almost exclusivley. I find them much better than Senko's.
Could be the scent, fallrate slightly ribbed. I like to skip a 5" model under and around boats and docks and Senko's just do not hold up to this kind of fishing. got a 7+ lb. from under a pontoon boat on heavily pressured lake close to Chicago.
My opinion is this: Most people give the Bass to much credit.
I dont think they work as well. They are not as soft as a Yum Dinger(senko that i use) and just dont equal up to ith in the end of the day.
yes...
I killed 'em last year on tikis. Even when the bait was torn to shreds, still caught fish on just pieces of 'em.
Overall they are just about as good. I like the action of the original senko a bit better, but tiki sticks last longer. A senko is done after a couple of bass usually.
QuoteI killed 'em last year on tikis. Even when the bait was torn to shreds, still caught fish on just pieces of 'em.
That happens to me with just about all the soft sticks. I rig them texposed on one end, then when it's shredded, I texpose on the other end. When both ends are shredded, I wacky rig them. Soft sticks are pure bass crack in clear to slightly stained water.
To me they're all just "STICK WORMS":
> Wave Worm Tiki Stick
> *** ***
> Yamamoto Senko
> Yum Dinger
> Gambler Ace
> Strike King Zero
> Manns Freefall Worm
> Bass Pro Stik-O
During a day when bass are really whacking stick worms,
any one of the above sticks will almost certainly provide good action.
During a day when bass aren't all that excited about stick worms,
even your favorite stick isn't going to set the world on fire
Changing from a T-rig to a W-rig will usually cause a more noticeable difference than changing worm brands
Roger
GEEEEEZ, yals fish are spoiled rotten. I have trained the bass in the lakes that I fish in to eat my Zoom or Culprit 7.5" junebug or redshad worm. If they don't eat that then they don't get to eat anything.
It's an apples to oranges comparison IMHO. They are not the same. I subscribe to the philosophy that it is better to have both of them than only one or the other. My experience albeit not too much is that some days the bass indicated a stronger preference of one over the other. If you only had one, you'd be SOL.
Folks, these senko threads are numerous and repetitive. For this reason, we have compiled all this info into 1 thread.
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