Newbie here but been lurking for some time.
Just wanted to see what percent of you tie direct to what ever your fishing or do you use a snap swivel?
I know a snap is quicker to change etc. DO you think it really matters or hepls catch or deter the fish?
Thanks in advance.
Maleko
The only baits I would ever even consider using a snap for are crankbaits, and then only a snap, never a swivel. I don't use snaps with crankbaits but a lot of people do. I would never use a snap on a jig, soft plastic, spinnerbait or anything else. Practice tying good knots and don't use snaps. Definitely don't use swivel snaps.
I tie directly to the lure. I believe that crankbait type lures would be a lure that you could use a snap swivel with and not see much of a difference in catch rate. With something like a jig I would say that a snap swivel is going to have a bigger negative impact.
I've seen these: http://www.cabelas.com/product/No-Knot-Fast-Snaps/701927.uts ... They seem like they would be the least-intrusive option for quick changes.
Along the shore I've been finding a startling number of stray hooks connected to lures via huge snap swivels...just scratch my head and pick them up to be recycled.
I tie everything direct.
I find a snap/swivel just collects weeds, so I tie direct using two different knots, the Palomar, and Rapala. However, as Tyfisher posted above, I also got a tip on the "No-Knot Fas-Snap" that I would like to try. I'm told they're smaller and quicker, but I think they would also collect weeds. I would only use the Fas-Snap when changing crankbaits frequently until I found the one the Bass want that day, then I would tie direct to the selected crank using the Rapala loop knot.
On 6/11/2013 at 10:18 AM, JT Bagwell said:I tie everything direct.
X2 Always, ALWAYS tie directly to the lure. Eventually you will get really good tying knots. I do a palomar in like 10 seconds. Lol
Thanks for the quick replies.
Think I'm gonna try to start to direct tie.
Ok dumb question, what do you do when your done fishing with your line ? Since I've been using a snap swivel which I'm learning is a no no, I just hooked it to the small eye on the pole.
Do you just reel it in to the reel and hook it to itself?
Sorry if a dumb ?
On 6/11/2013 at 10:27 AM, maleko said:Thanks for the quick replies.
Think I'm gonna try to start to direct tie.
Ok dumb question, what do you do when your done fishing with your line ? Since I've been using a snap swivel which I'm learning is a no no, I just hooked it to the small eye on the pole.
Do you just reel it in to the reel and hook it to itself?
Sorry if a dumb ?
Cut off you lure, tie a large loop in the end of the line, place the loop over the rod handle and tighten the line with the reel, then wrap the line around the rod eyes one time.
P.S. There are no dumb questions here, just some dumb answers at times.
On 6/11/2013 at 10:27 AM, maleko said:Thanks for the quick replies.
Think I'm gonna try to start to direct tie.
Ok dumb question, what do you do when your done fishing with your line ? Since I've been using a snap swivel which I'm learning is a no no, I just hooked it to the small eye on the pole.
Do you just reel it in to the reel and hook it to itself?
Sorry if a dumb ?
What I do is double up about 6-8" of line and tie an overhand knot in it so you have a loop. You can then hang the loop on your hook keeper (if you have one) or around the reel handle. You can reel your line all the way into the reel but it's kind of a pain to run back through the guides every time.
Figure out what knot you want to tie, I recommend the Palomar, practice it until you can tie it well. You will build speed and confidence and no longer need the snaps. Tying good knots is a critical part of fishing, there aren't any shortcuts.
Attach the hook/jig/snap w/e to the hook hanger on the blank above the reel seat.
I never use snaps for anything except cranks. There is no issue using them with cranks. Not to sound cliche but even kvd uses them on his cranks. however, i don't use them when ripping baits through weeds or around grass. they collect too much crud. any other cranking situation i always use snaps (never swivels). I wouldn't ever use them for jigs/plastics/etc.
On 6/11/2013 at 10:18 AM, JT Bagwell said:I tie everything direct.
This
I'm am a retiree with a tremor problem. That means my hands shake. Trying to tie a Palomar can be a ten minute ordeal for me. For that reason I use a snap on almost all of my rods. Since changing to snaps, I haven't noticed any change in my catch ratio. BTW, I never use a snap swivel - snaps only.
i tie direct unless im fishing braid. With braid ill tie about a 12 inch flouro leader
Direct
On 6/11/2013 at 10:54 AM, 2Burd4Dawg4 said:i tie direct unless im fishing braid. With braid ill tie about a 12 inch flouro leader
So it's not a good idea to tie direct with braid? Why?
Add said before direct unless it's a crankbait. I think the braid to mono comment was based on visibility/abrasion issues
I use a snap on flutter and jigging spoons, I tie direct to everything else.
On 6/11/2013 at 10:47 AM, Long Mike said:I'm am a retiree with a tremor problem. That means my hands shake. Trying to tie a Palomar can be a ten minute ordeal for me. For that reason I use a snap on almost all of my rods. Since changing to snaps, I haven't noticed any change in my catch ratio. BTW, I never use a snap swivel - snaps only.
I also have a hand problem, and grip problem. Made me walk away with using snaps since it was very difficult to open them. Before getting rid of them my catch rate didn't change, more hangups on millfoil and other weeds were the only problem and I wouldn't consider that a real problem.
On 6/11/2013 at 11:08 AM, maleko said:So it's not a good idea to tie direct with braid? Why?
Well if you tied it correctly and got it stuck on say a huge stump how easy do you think the line would snap off, much harder than a mono snap off
On 6/11/2013 at 11:08 AM, maleko said:So it's not a good idea to tie direct with braid? Why?
i get this from my saltwater roots in striper fishing with a leader you will recover more snags with a leader, and you will avoid more tangles in your hooks when its fouled. Mono or Flouro i think fishing a leader with braid makes it a whole lot easier and with 3 palomar knots you can tie a leader in less than a minute.
Always tie direct, I always use a Trilene Knot to all my lures.
I do not think using snap or snap swivel will change your catch ratio directly because of the extra visual deterrent, but it will if it catches too much weed and your lure become weed ball by the time you get your lure back. I was direct everything for long time but recently started using snaps when I bank fish with one rod. The idea is that while I am searching for the bait/color that fish want that day by rotating them, even if 10 seconds per cut/re-tie will adds up and this can make me lazy about changing the bait. I don't do that when I fish from my boat because I carry several rods.
whether or not it makes a difference, i sike myself out every time i have tried it and fish way too insecurely to catch fish so i just stopped and tie everything direct. I just could not stop worrying about what it looked like and how it may change the action. The lack in confidence was not worth the switch for me.
i tie direct to jigs. I run heavy braid with no leader when I'm in the slop. I don't want a snap swivel breaking so I can get my jig back.
I use snap swivels for in line spinners and spoons because it helps reduce line twist. Everything else I tie direct.
In at tournament you may want to use snaps to save time when changing baits.
Fun fishing you can tie direct for everything.
Personal preference.
I think if you follow this or any forum for a period of time you will discover people are catching all kinds of fish with all kinds of different gear and set ups. I don't think it makes much of difference what's done, as long as it works for you. What works for me in freshwater is 10-15# braided line with about a 20" leader connected with a BB swivel or quality power swivel, never a deviation. When I'm using lures with exposed hooks I'll use a duolock snap, not so much with the idea of quick change as I stay with a lure quite a while before I change it, but to keep using my same leader unless it has too much abrasion.
Great replies. Thanks
I'm headed out this morning to see what I can catch.
Have used a good quality duo lock for years. Have not had a weed problem but then haven't lived in the south long either. Strength wise...no problems and use for top water too. I like to change lures quite a bit and also feel that the duo gives the bait free'er movement.
Tight Lines
On 6/11/2013 at 10:17 AM, Tyfisher said:I tie directly to the lure. I believe that crankbait type lures would be a lure that you could use a snap swivel with and not see much of a difference in catch rate. With something like a jig I would say that a snap swivel is going to have a bigger negative impact.
I've seen these: http://www.cabelas.com/product/No-Knot-Fast-Snaps/701927.uts ... They seem like they would be the least-intrusive option for quick changes.
Along the shore I've been finding a startling number of stray hooks connected to lures via huge snap swivels...just scratch my head and pick them up to be recycled.
There is a reason you're finding them junked along the shore.
On 6/11/2013 at 10:05 AM, maleko said:Newbie here but been lurking for some time.
Just wanted to see what percent of you tie direct to what ever your fishing or do you use a snap swivel?
I know a snap is quicker to change etc. DO you think it really matters or hepls catch or deter the fish?
Thanks in advance.
Maleko
I recently tried Dual locks on my RES and hated them. They made that lure have a much wider wobble that tying it to the split ring, and I ended up catching everything but bass. Stuck the split rings back on them, and now I'm starting to hammer the bass again. I wish I could find some dual locks are the same thickness of the split rings so I can use them without affecting the action. I did love being able to change out lures quickly though.
I use snap swivels on crankbaits and spinnerbaits, but never on a jig or soft plastic. I don't like my soft plastics to spin in the water and jigs are usually fished to cover. I don't use a swivel on a jig because it tends to get caught up more.
Direct for me. Extra items = more chance of something going wrong.
always direct
plus I have seen more snaps fail than I have properly tied knots