Ok consider this scenario....
Ive discovered an area, about 10-15 yards from shore, where there exists what looks like, a squareish shaped(maybe rectangle), submerged wooden crate. It looks to be about 3ft x 3ft, and considering the depth, might be standing 5-6ft tall. The top might be about 2-3ft below the surface. It is in dilapidated condition, and is finely decorated with snagged fishing tackle. The top is completely open. This box is usually obscured, but today the water visibility was abnormally clear.
Anyway, inside this box, resides a Bass of exceptional size(for here). Possibly around 23"-25". He did a lot of following today, and he would happily come out of his box and follow my swim jigs around, like he found a new friend or something.
Needless to say, I did not catch him. So Im trying to formulate a plan to do so. Im thinking that on the next trip down there, my plan maybe should be to make my very first cast, right down into that box. Drop the bait right on his head.
My debate? Which bait to use, of course. Im thinking jig/craw, or Texas rigged recon worm, Im also considering putting a popper right over top of it. I am expecting to get a hang up or two, but I would still like to minimize those occurences from happening.
What would be your approach to this?
Texas rigged creature bait. My personal preference would be a baby brush hog.
On 6/13/2015 at 6:22 AM, jbsoonerfan said:Texas rigged creature bait. My personal preference would be a baby brush hog.
Hmmm....Noted.
What weight would you use? Pegged or not?
Im thinking a slow-fall rate would be preferred in this situation.
Oh yeah, and for all you Senko guys. Yep, the Senko failed yet again. This fish showed no interest at all in that stick worm.
But It just may not have been an active feeding period at that time.
3/16 pegged
Ahhh....I should drop a D-Stroyer in there.
Hmmmm
My rig would be a bobber,15" of line,split shot,9" of line,hook, and a fat chunk of worm.
On 6/13/2015 at 6:50 AM, rippin-lips said:My rig would be a bobber,15" of line,split shot,9" of line,hook, and a fat chunk of worm.
I like it. But its definitely asking for a hang up. The cast would have to be perfect.
Deadsticking.
I didn't know bass like boxes- thought it was just cats (maybe catfishes too).
On 6/13/2015 at 10:13 AM, deep said:Deadsticking.
Ok, deadsticking anything in particular?
I'd start with a hardgill, but that's one bait I have a lot of confidence in. Something with joints preferably that you can twitch in a spot.
On 6/13/2015 at 10:26 AM, deep said:I'd start with a hardgill, but that's one bait I have a lot of confidence in. Something with joints preferably that you can twitch in a spot.
So you would deadstick a swimbait, inside of this box?
On 6/13/2015 at 10:14 AM, deep said:I didn't know bass like boxes- thought it was just cats (maybe catfishes too).
This bass is very fond of his box.
I highly doubt though that this fish spends his time at the bottom of the box....if actually is 5 or so feet deep. I suspect he is suspending towards the top, considering how easy it was to casually coax him out with every pass of a swim jig overhead. Certainly makes for a good ambush point.
Might try reeling something extremely fast over the box. Maybe if he doesnt get a chance to see it he will hit it out of reflex .
Matt makes floating hardgills too, you know.
Oh btw, it's a she- the bass that is.
On 6/13/2015 at 10:36 AM, scaleface said:Might try reeling something extremely fast over the box. Maybe if he doesnt get a chance to see it he will hit it out of reflex .
Its worth a shot. However, considering his now narrow field of view when he is down in there, Its not likely he has much time to get a good look at it anyway, even during a slower retrieve. Might be why he comes out and follows it all the way back.
On 6/13/2015 at 10:37 AM, deep said:Matt makes floating hardgills too, you know.
Oh btw, it's a she- the bass that is.
Well, I have no Hardgills. So that option is out.
A she huh? Noted. She.
Well, my first *big* bass- in hindsight, she wasn't that big (a little over 6# IIRC)- was caught deadsticking a Rapala F7.
Unwittingly, I should add.
if she is checking out your baits then i would try to hit it at a different time of day. She has to eat at some point and you up your chances if you are there at the right time.
On 6/13/2015 at 12:07 PM, flyfisher said:if she is checking out your baits then i would try to hit it at a different time of day. She has to eat at some point and you up your chances if you are there at the right time.
Agreed....but my fishing time is limited. Will have to make the most with what I have. No worries though, recently caught a 5lber during the same time frame, and day conditions. She'll come around.
Dude, all you need is a car battery and 6' worth of jumper cables.
But seriously, figure out what the primary forage is for the lake, catch a sizeable one, stick a hook through it (make sure it stays alive) and drop it on a 3 way swivel or slip sinker rig just far enough so the shad/shiner/bluegill/alewife/whatever can't quite make it to the cover. Don't cast it, paddle, row, or troll out and drop it. Be patient. At this point, if you've tossed everything shy of a set of jumper cables at her, she's probably pretty weary and nothing you're going to present (since you've already found her, and odds are, 10 to 1 she's seen you) is going to look as tasty as any of the above, presented naturally. Sometimes live bait just wins.
FINESSE!.....................................
I would pitch a texas-rigged rage craw over the box, drag it up the box, and let it fall inside. Hey presto! You have yourself a bass
On 6/13/2015 at 7:58 PM, Senko lover said:I would pitch a texas-rigged rage craw over the box, drag it up the box, and let it fall inside. Hey presto! You have yourself a bass
Yep, Rage Craw is definitely on deck for this.
I thought this thread was about lures that didn't catch anything and get cast back in the tacklebox forever.
On 6/13/2015 at 1:49 PM, Turkey sandwich said:Dude, all you need is a car battery and 6' worth of jumper cables.
But seriously, figure out what the primary forage is for the lake, catch a sizeable one, stick a hook through it (make sure it stays alive) and drop it on a 3 way swivel or slip sinker rig just far enough so the shad/shiner/bluegill/alewife/whatever can't quite make it to the cover. Don't cast it, paddle, row, or troll out and drop it. Be patient. At this point, if you've tossed everything shy of a set of jumper cables at her, she's probably pretty weary and nothing you're going to present (since you've already found her, and odds are, 10 to 1 she's seen you) is going to look as tasty as any of the above, presented naturally. Sometimes live bait just wins.
Tried that, but it didn't work out too well. Had to call a tow truck to pull the car out.
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Your live bait idea is solid, but not particularly feasible. I'll be fishing from shore, so casting will be required. So then casting 15 yards or so with a live, and very spry bait fish, probably wont make it out to that sweet spot where I need it to be. Yes, this fish is most likely very weary, which is why Im going try to use her cover to my advantage, and drop my very first cast right down inside that box, hopefully before we start playing peek-a-boo with eachother.
T-Rigged Fat Ika backwards with a 4/0 EWG Gami or a Zoom Lizard with a 3/16 bullet weight t-rigged. He either it will be mad or hungry, Both will cause him to bite.
Fat Ika rigged backwards would be exactly what I would be using
I second the t-rigged creature bait notion. A Havoc Pitboss won't break the bank even if you lose half the pack. Also, try a t-rigged (belly weight hook) zoom fluke upside down; twitch it above the box then let it do it's dying action.
Buzzbait. Start around the box a few casts to see if any interest and if any signs of interest cast directly over said bass box and speed up retrieve as if the bait has seen her and scurrying away quickly may cause a reaction strike.
On 6/14/2015 at 1:14 PM, Shanes7614 said:Buzzbait. Start around the box a few casts to see if any interest and if any signs of interest cast directly over said bass box and speed up retrieve as if the bait has seen her and scurrying away quickly may cause a reaction strike.
Thanks, Yeah I will be trying things like that if/after my approach of direct bombardment doesn't work. But from what Ive seen so far, I have the expectation that once she is out of the box, then its pretty much over.