Fishing in a constant drizzle with my "columbia omni-tech" coat, left me cold & uncomfortable. I've met the same fate with other "gore-tex" products. The only answer I've found to be sure I'm not going to get wet is pvc. That off course is not breathable & I have a dilema. Does ANY body have personal experience with a coat(shell) that will keep you dry? By the was "frog toggs" aren't the answer for me. THANKS
I have a pair of insulated Cabela Guide Wear that I fished in a driving rain with 40 degree temperature. Never soaked through, did get pretty heavy as the water stayed between the Shell and Goretex.
I use alot of Browning Gear. It has worked great for me over the years.
IMO though there is nothing that is 100% waterproof.
i have yet to get wet with my bps 100mph jacket.
Quotei have yet to get wet with my bps 100mph jacket.
ME TOO
Omni-Tech is Goretex, just Columbia's implementation of it. I can only assume the DWR has worn off the outer layer resulting in the water not beading on the coat (see Dr. Leo's post). The end result is the fabric (outside layer protecting the teflon waterproof inner layer) feels cold and clammy making you feel wet while not actually being wet. This is normal and is the whole point to waterproof fabrics having a DWR coating on them. The reason you don't get this with PVC is because water naturally beads/isn't retained on the PVC.
Dr. Leo doesn't feel cold and wet because his are insulated and the insulation keeps the cold/clammy water soaked layer off his skin.
Cabela's guide Wear
BPS 100MPH Suit
You will stay with either
QuoteOmni-Tech is Goretex, just Columbia's implementation of it.
Boy, have to disagree there. I hunted pheasants hard 3-5 days a week, 3 months of the year, for 25 years in MN and Iowa. Rain, sleet, snow, drizzle, mud, ice, the whole 9 yards. The Omni-tech is a poor, poor imitation for GoreTex. I used almost all of the products on the market, and nothing could run with GoreTex. Yeah, some knockoff stuff would work okay for the first month or maybe even a season. But year in and year out, GoreTex performs better, no comparison.
Columbia used to be a brand I'd buy because they used GoreTex in a lot of their stuff. But I guess they decided at some point to charge the same money, use a cheaper product and pocket the difference. I no longer consider Columbia a top brand, personally.
Patagonia Deep Wading Jacket.
This company is by far and away the greatest outdoor gear/clothing company ever. I have 2 fleece that are going on 14 and 13 years respectively. I spent my 20's in the Cycling, Skiing, Climbing industries and was just amazed by them...
One time a biiiiiig dude came in to my shop and the back of his fleece had blown open (think Fat Guy In Little Coat) and asked what we could do. I called Patagonia and they said to send it in... 3 weeks later I get the customers warranty back, in the box was his fleece, it had all the zippers replaced and the back was repaired. Oh and they gave him a new fleece to go with his repaired one.
Long story short. Maybe a little pricey to start but they are behind their product 100% should you need them.
I like my Cabelas Guide Wear jacket & bibs. I didn't get the insulated set, but I wear different layers of polar fleece and such to control warmth. A little water is always gonna get in through the sleeves and neck, but never to the point where it is uncomfortable.
Duck Commander Shell Pullover Rain Jacket & Pants
100% wind/waterproof breathable Core-Tech Fabric
Great for layering
Last year I tried a product that is supposed to rejuvenate the waterproof qualities of rain gear. I have an old gore-tex suit that I leave in my boat full time. Like someone said nothing is 100% waterproof but I have found that using this product helps tremendously. I think I got it a BPS and I am traveling right now so I don't have the product name. You wash your gear in the washing machine with it and let drip dry and it improves the waterproof qualities a lot. It worked so well on the old emergency suit that I tried it on my new suit as well. Worked great.
Get a duck jacket nothing can get through them lol
QuoteYou wash your gear in the washing machine with it and let drip dry and it improves the waterproof qualities a lot. It worked so well on the old emergency suit that I tried it on my new suit as well. Worked great.
Most likely Nikwax TX-Direct Wash In. It's a good DWR; many people prefer the spray on's and many prefer the wash-in's.
Wash your Gore-Tex garments regularly as the dirt impacts the DWR. Here's a good read:
http://www.rei.com/expertadvice/articles/washing+goretex+outerwear.html
Or Goretex themselves:
http://www.gore-tex.com/remote/Satellite/content/care-center/washing-instructions
one thing I do to make my raingear last longer is
1. Dont wash in washer it breaks down fabric quicker.
2. Alwasy let dry in sun after being wet.
3. Scotch gaurd once or twice a year
I wear a rain suit designed for golf over some warm clothes if it is cold. Zero Restriction is my favorite type.
http://www.zerorestriction.com/linkstorm-jacket/
Different strokes I guess....I have Columbia Omni Tech also...Maybe made differently than yours....Mine are older and I just used mine Smallmouth fishing in Canada and it rained on me almost everyday - not just rain but poured at times. Mine kept me very dry. I have a pair of Muck Boots that I wore with the bottom of the Omni Techs over the top of the boot and I never got damp or wet anywhere but my face and collar area.
On the Frogg Togg stuff - I like them to have in the boat for a quick shower or a light mist -- but in RAIN or if you ever have to sit down -- forget it.
I have a lot of rain gear and I have had very good results with Gore Tex too....but I for one can't complain about the performance of the Columbia Omni Tech stuff. I am in the rain a lot I guess. I fish in the rain, and my season football seats are outside in the rain, and I hike in the rain etc. etc.
Maybe treat the Columbia stuff and give it another try although mine has never been treated..
I am a Goretex fan. IMO there is not a product on the market that has proven better. I have some of the Columbia products and there is a difference between Omni-tech and Omni-shield. The Omni-tech products are water proof. Omni-shield is water resistant and good for mild rain. I learned this because a friend was bragging about his new Columbia jacket that was totally water proof. So I picked up a jacket for boarding and soon realized the difference. In my experience Omni-tech does not last as long as Goretex.
I bought and tried a new set of waterproof wintergear from HyCreek this past weekend temps in the 30's with 20-30 mph wind and rain short as it was blew stright side ways....100% warm and dry I just sent them a note telling them how happy I was with the suit. I love to fish in the winter (hot water discharge lakes in Illinois and indiana) as well as Dale hollow in dec-Jan -Feb these bad boys are great
I have the Cabelas Guide Wear that works great, but I have to treat the suit at least once a year with a special wash and waterproofer that Cabelas sells and that keeps me dry.
A bit pricey but RiversWest is the best waterproof product I have ever used. It comes with a 10year warranty on any product. If you are buying their hunting bibs/parka they do not breathe much so doing a lot of hiking can get hot. However, it is a high density fleece material that is totally wind and water proof. Extremely warm in the coldest wettest conditions.
Highly recommend them
The Frabill Storm Suit looks really neat, but still don't think it's out. Definitely going to look into getting one when they do. Right now I use a 6+ year old North Face Jacket that although doesn't let rain all the way through, it sure feels like I'm wet after a few hours.
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Cabela's Guideware...100% waterproof!
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I have the BPS 100mph bibs and jacket and i've had ZERO problems with them leaking very durable material
Storm Hide has worked great for me and we get just a sprinkle or two in my state.