Someone stole all my rods and I'm starting from scratch. I want to go with Dobyns Champion line this time. I need the following:
Also, I really like the look of a split handle. Are there any negatives to the split handle?
Thanks for your help.
Topwater Rod I would go with the 704c "I use 3 different rods for this category 704cb for spooks, pop r's etc any top water with treble hooks, for Frogs I use a 735c and for Buzz baits I use the 734c." I feel the 704c could easily handle all these baits well.
Worm Rod I'd go with a 734c long enough to make short pitches excellent Texas rig rod using 3/16-3/8 ounce weights. Can also be great with lighter Carolina Rigs. The 734c is probably the most versatile rod in the line up!
Spinnerbait / Chatter Bait rod I would go with the 684c. Usually when I'm throwing a Spinnerbait, chatter bait, or swim jig I am throwing targets, stumps lay downs under over hanging branches etc. I like the shorter rod for doing that.
Flippin Rod I like the 765c, great rod and I also use it to throw small swim baits and A Rigs.
For the crankbait rod your right on with the 705cb glass rod. I love mine only problem is it is a little much for throwing smaller cranks such as the 1.5 square bill.
Full handle or split is really just user preference. But the Crankbait rods only come with a Full handle. Good luck let is know what you decide to get.
Oh the DX744c for soft plastics is amazing and well worth the extra money IMO!
This is how I look at it
1. 734c for moving baits with one hook (buzzbaits,chatterbaits/spinnerbaits/chatterbaits) AND worms.
2. 705cb for your crankbaits in the range you listed. I also have the 765cb glass and use it for really deep Divers and big spinnerbaits but the 705 can handle what you want. This could also throw spooks
3. Flipping/frog could be the 765 if you are fishing very heavy vegetation and you aren't trying to walk a frog. If you want to work the frog in open water, 735c
Honestly, you could probably get 2 of the 734c with different lines and cover most of your needs. V
Sounds good to meOn 5/14/2014 at 7:23 PM, Grantman83 said:This is how I look at it
1. 734c for moving baits with one hook (buzzbaits,chatterbaits/spinnerbaits/chatterbaits) AND worms.
2. 705cb for your crankbaits in the range you listed. I also have the 765cb glass and use it for really deep Divers and big spinnerbaits but the 705 can handle what you want. This could also throw spooks
3. Flipping/frog could be the 765 if you are fishing very heavy vegetation and you aren't trying to walk a frog. If you want to work the frog in open water, 735c
Honestly, you could probably get 2 of the 734c with different lines and cover most of your needs. V
On 5/14/2014 at 7:23 PM, Grantman83 said:This is how I look at it
1. 734c for moving baits with one hook (buzzbaits,chatterbaits/spinnerbaits/chatterbaits) AND worms.
2. 705cb for your crankbaits in the range you listed. I also have the 765cb glass and use it for really deep Divers and big spinnerbaits but the 705 can handle what you want. This could also throw spooks
3. Flipping/frog could be the 765 if you are fishing very heavy vegetation and you aren't trying to walk a frog. If you want to work the frog in open water, 735c
Honestly, you could probably get 2 of the 734c with different lines and cover most of your needs. V
How hard was it to recommend the 734 over the 704
Lol I knew you would show up!
I am wanting to see where the OP lives and what he fishes....
the 765 flip is a STICK.... I had one and sold it as I never had the need to use it. it is my opinion unless you are punching mats, THICK brush and that kind of deal, it is hard to justify a true flipping stick.
the 735 and 736 can handle A BUNCH of stuff in the pitching/flipping department
I throw a 1oz 5inch big hammer on a 735 just fine so if weight is a concern it shouldnt be.
also another rod that is rarely talked about, but one I just got is the 804c champ.... I fling a double rig of 5in swimbaits on 1/2oz heads, and that rig will LAUNCH a 3/4 carolina rig. I am just startting to use this rod, but I am excited when the time comes to stroke 1oz jigs.
this rod sets up much differently than other 4 powers in the line up.
Brian, I live in Gadsden, Alabama on the Coosa River (Lake Neely Henry). I fish this lake most, but I'm only 40 miles from Guntersville.
Not much structure on Neely, just docks, rip rap, and some patches of grass. The big G though, it's grass heaven (or hell) depending on how you wanna view that thick stuff!
Thanks everyone for your help. I greatly appreciate you guys.
I have the 705CB I love it.
On 5/14/2014 at 11:32 PM, Brian Needham said:I am wanting to see where the OP lives and what he fishes....
the 765 flip is a STICK.... I had one and sold it as I never had the need to use it. it is my opinion unless you are punching mats, THICK brush and that kind of deal, it is hard to justify a true flipping stick.
the 735 and 736 can handle A BUNCH of stuff in the pitching/flipping department
I throw a 1oz 5inch big hammer on a 735 just fine so if weight is a concern it shouldnt be.
also another rod that is rarely talked about, but one I just got is the 804c champ.... I fling a double rig of 5in swimbaits on 1/2oz heads, and that rig will LAUNCH a 3/4 carolina rig. I am just startting to use this rod, but I am excited when the time comes to stroke 1oz jigs.
this rod sets up much differently than other 4 powers in the line up.
Brian, I dont know if you ever stroke flutter spoons, but my 804 also does that VERY well! I also pitch light (1/2-3/4oz) punch rigs with trailers into reeds with it. The length is killer in that application. Plus, it is an incredible C-Rig rod to boot. Its probably my favorite of the 7 different Dobyns I own. Ive fished 1/2 oz jigs on it a lot as well.
On 5/15/2014 at 1:24 AM, Drewski73 said:Brian, I dont know if you ever stroke flutter spoons, but my 804 also does that VERY well! I also pitch light (1/2-3/4oz) punch rigs with trailers into reeds with it. The length is killer in that application. Plus, it is an incredible C-Rig rod to boot. Its probably my favorite of the 7 different Dobyns I own. Ive fished 1/2 oz jigs on it a lot as well.
I have no doubt about that.... I forgot to mention that on the 804.
normally I do spoons on the 784ML but on the bigger spoons I think it can get a little overpowered, so when I got the 804 and casted it a few times one of my first thoughts was a 6in spoon.
Glad to hear you have actually done it and liked it!!!!
Last time I called the office to ask Richard questions I asked him when we were going to get a 785.... he said hopefully next year.... I hope so, becasue the 784 is a GREAT platform, just needs to be a bit beefier for heavier stuff IMO.
I got the 766 Flip in the Savvy lineup and it is a beast. It also doubles as my smaller swimbait rod as well. Easily handles the 5 or 6 inch bull shad.
On 5/15/2014 at 2:23 AM, CTGalloway21 said:I got the 766 Flip in the Savvy lineup and it is a beast. It also doubles as my smaller swimbait rod as well. Easily handles the 5 or 6 inch bull shad.
I been throwing a bullshad on a 805 RMcb and like it.
Which handle do most of you fish with? Full or split? I think the split just looks cool as *****.
get the split
If I am throwing moving baits (crankbaits, spinnerbaits, buzzbaits, chatterbaits, etc.) I prefer full cork. Also if I am using a flippin stick I prefer full cork. If I am casting a jig or texas rig I use split grip, but wouldn't be opposed to using full cork. I guess you could say I'm a full cork fan...
Guys, I gave Dobyns headquarters the chance to answer this post too. This is what the fellow there recommended. Please let me know if you disagree:
A few of those seemed to be a bit "harder/stiffer" than what you recommended. Just wanted to see if there's something listed above that doesn't jive well. THanks!
topwater-736
only agree if that's a frog rod. that's one beast of a rod. not a spook/popper rod..
On 5/15/2014 at 11:34 AM, iabass8 said:topwater-736
only agree if that's a frog rod. that's one beast of a rod. not a spook/popper rod..
Yea, he mentioned that it would be too stiff for popper and spooks. I told him I throw mostly frogs and buzzbaits and he said 736.
I wonder if I should even fool with that flippin' rod. I never catch **** flipping docks anyway.
On 5/15/2014 at 11:54 AM, nocellcontracts said:Yea, he mentioned that it would be too stiff for popper and spooks. I told him I throw mostly frogs and buzzbaits and he said 736.
I wonder if I should even fool with that flippin' rod. I never catch **** flipping docks anyway.
if you are only flipping dock then you dont need a flipping stick, unless that dock has a rain forrest growing around it.
tell us where you live and where you fish. and weights you want to use
On 5/15/2014 at 12:04 AM, nocellcontracts said:Brian, I live in Gadsden, Alabama on the Coosa River (Lake Neely Henry). I fish this lake most, but I'm only 40 miles from Guntersville.
Not much structure on Neely, just docks, rip rap, and some patches of grass. The big G though, it's grass heaven (or hell) depending on how you wanna view that thick stuff!
Thanks everyone for your help. I greatly appreciate you guys.
On 5/15/2014 at 8:19 PM, Brian Needham said:if you are only flipping dock then you dont need a flipping stick, unless that dock has a rain forrest growing around it.
tell us where you live and where you fish. and weights you want to use
You may have bypassed it on the first page since the thread has jumped to the second.
yeap, somehow I bypassed it, sorry.....
if you are going to do the BIG G a lot then get the flippin stick, if you are only going a few times a year then the 736 will get you done IMO.
I know guys that go to the Big G a few times a year and they use BPS Carbonlite heavy.
dont get me wrong, the 765flip is a hellva stick.... the question is how often are you going to use it.
this is a tough call.
The 765flip vs. the 736..... which of the two would be more equal to the DX745?
On 5/14/2014 at 12:10 PM, nocellcontracts said:Someone stole all my rods and I'm starting from scratch. I want to go with Dobyns Champion line this time. I need the following:
- A topwater rod (Frog/buzzbait/spook)
- Worm rod
- Flippin' rod
- Spinnerbait/Chatterbait rod
- Crankbait rod (I prefer the glass version to reduce so much "jitter" in your hands while retrieving. Baits will range from square bills up to 14' divers. I've owned the Dobyns 765CB glass and it was a bit heavy so I was considering the 705 glass this time.)
Also, I really like the look of a split handle. Are there any negatives to the split handle?
Thanks for your help.
I would stick with what one of the 3 people who answer rod questions at Dobyns gave you. As far as the rods being a bit heavier in power than other recommendations, that is somewhat typical, and I agree with the recommendations. I like to rate my rod based on handling the biggest fish I think I may hook on that particular technique. Considering that you may fish Guntersville at times I would want to be properly equipped.
Another thing to consider with the rods listed above: Not sure what baits you throw at the same time, but if you get to a lake and for example you're not throwing a chatterbait or spinnerbait for a portion of the day you could throw the spook or the popper on the 734c and would be in perfect shape. Also for the worm rod the 735c would be great or the 745dx if you are looking to upgrade a bit. Once again these rods may seem a little high in rating but I prefer to be overpowered 95% of the time rather than underpowered 5% of the time. It all comes down to personal preference and there are more than one way of doing things. Hope you enjoy the new purchases either way!
On 5/15/2014 at 9:58 PM, nocellcontracts said:The 765flip vs. the 736..... which of the two would be more equal to the DX745?
Honestly, the 745 to me is a mix of both but powered closer to the 765. The 736 has much more power in my hand than the 765. The 745 to me has slightly less power than the 765. As far as power goes from light to heavy I would rate them dx745 - 765c - 736c.
On 5/15/2014 at 9:58 PM, nocellcontracts said:The 765flip vs. the 736..... which of the two would be more equal to the DX745?
a flipping stick blank is totally different than a normal 5 power.......just like a normal 5 power is totally different than a cranking 5 power.]
My fear for you would be, the only time you are going to "need" that Flip stick is when you go to Guntersville, and you MIGHT not have to use it then all the time. For sure, if you are going to punch a bunch of grass mats and such then get one... but at that point why not get the 805 punch flip?
that's JMO......if at all possible you are going to need to try that flipping stick before you lay out of it. I am pretty sure there is a Dobyns dealer near Guntersville.
I know my opinion may be different than many, but I think it is better to buy sticks you are going to use EVERY time out, then fill gaps from there, upgrading, adding to collection, ect.
Order is placed....
I ended up choosing the 768C for spinnerbaits....and the 736 for flippin' heavy jigs-trailers. Is that 736 gonna be TOO stiff???