Shimano or Diawa 2025
HUNTER19 reply :
ok so i really like the feel of diawa's( zillion, fuego, sol) but do they hold up like the shimano citicas and curados? I just want to buy a few good reals that will last any sugestions? or prefrence between the two?
DRat reply :
Man when you ask to compair between Shimano and Diawa you are opening a real can of worms. Both make great reels. You may want to expand on price range and what you will be doing with them.
roadwarrior reply :
Which tastes better, an apple or an orange?
Shimano has built a reputation for durability.
Shimano's motto is: Smooth, strong, silent and reliant.
I have found that they strive to deliver a high quality
product at various pricing points to meet the expectations
of their valued clients. Customer service is exceptional.
8-)
Willzx225 reply :
Someone left the door open for RW on that one ;D
ABC123 reply :
Shiawa's are good reels. ;D I chose Diawa over Shimano baitcasters for 2 reasons only.
1) Ease of adjusting the brake. While I understand that the brake is not adjusted often, it's nice to be able to just turn the dial.
2) It was claimed that the Diawa braking system was a bit better on the $150-$250 reels vs. comparable Shimano's.
Well, weight did factor in some, cost per oz was much less with the Diawa's when I found them on sale. MSRP put's the Diawa's just a little lower in cost.
Catt reply :
Try comparing the zillion, fuego, sol to Curado, Chronarch, & Calais 
JayW reply :
I prefer Shimano!
cpr1 reply :
Oh boy!
Can we get a show of hands for shimano fishermen?
me
Now how about Diawa fishermen?
;D ;D
Cheers!
ABC123 reply :
QuoteTry comparing the zillion, fuego, sol to Curado, Chronarch, & Calais
Yup, it's a back and forth debate. Zillions are equal in price to the Curado's and Chronach's, but they weigh a lot more. Calais are way more. The Sol vs. Chronarch mg and Curado 100 tend to be a wash, though the mg is light for the price. The 2 less bearings on the Shimano's is concerning too. I can see between 6 and 8, but between 4 and 6 screams "bushings in key area's". Like the worm....
Raul reply :
I have the same ammount of Shimanos and Daiwas, that should say something. Today I purchase a Shimano, next purchase is a Daiwa or viceversa.
Catt, you can 't compare a Fuego, Zillion or Sol to a Calais, not in the same league, compare a Calais 100A to a TDZ and you 'll have a tuff day to say which one is better, I know it because I had the Calais 100A and droped it in order to get me a TDZ.
Catt reply :
QuoteQuoteTry comparing the zillion, fuego, sol to Curado, Chronarch, & CalaisYup, it's a back and forth debate. Zillions are equal in price to the Curado's and Chronach's, but they weigh a lot more. Calais are way more. The Sol vs. Chronarch mg and Curado 100 tend to be a wash, though the mg is light for the price. The 2 less bearings on the Shimano's is concerning too. I can see between 6 and 8, but between 4 and 6 screams "bushings in key area's". Like the worm....[/quote]
That's funny right there I don't care who you are, I fish with Calcutta's which only have 3 ball bearings and don't have any problems landing big fish in both fresh or salt water.
So how is this a disadvantage?
ABC123 reply :
Well, I have 2 17 foot cane poles for pan fishing, I guess bearings are over rated. ;D Just trying to breathe some life into the forum, it's been quiet the last couple weeks.
Alpster reply :
QuoteWell....I guess bearings are over rated. ;D
The number of bearings is definitely overrated. I had two calais 200s with 11 bearings and I sold them both. I replaced them with 50Mgs (I now have 4 - 50Mgs). The Mgs are at least as smooth as the Calais and way lighter. Okuma makes a baitcaster with 11 bearings, but I don't think I will trade my Shimanos in just yet.
Ronnie
RoLo reply :
QuoteWhich tastes better, an apple or an orange?
That's easy...a Shimano
Kidding aside, both companies make great reels today, but I go back to the time when pterodactyls were still roosting in live oak trees.
Before the competition from shimano heated up, daiwa was mainly competing against pflueger, shakespeare, south bend and the like. When shimano gained a foothold in this country it seemed to force daiwa off its haunches. Today, the race between daiwa and shimano is as close to a dead-heat as you'll find, because neither company really has a choice. Nonetheless, I have to give shimano the nod because some of the early junk that daiwa once produced still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Roger
tkite16 reply :
What About REVO's !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
roadwarrior reply :
QuoteWhat About REVO's !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hmm...
I don't think Shimano or Diawa make them yet. :
8-)
foul hooked reply :
Which is better? - Both are outstanding in my opinion.
On the Daiwa durability question - I fish the Sols,Fuegos, TD-As and have never had a mechanical problem with any of them. I treat them pretty rough too.
Never had a problem with my Citica either.
Raul reply :
QuoteKidding aside, both companies make great reels today, but I go back to the time when pterodactyls were still roosting in live oak trees.
Roger
Another one that had to dodge velociraptors and T-rexes in order to get to the water and ketch some Coelacanths .... just like I did.
ABC123 reply :
QuoteQuoteWell....I guess bearings are over rated. ;DThe number of bearings is definitely overrated. I had two calais 200s with 11 bearings and I sold them both. I replaced them with 50Mgs (I now have 4 - 50Mgs). The Mgs are at least as smooth as the Calais and way lighter. Okuma makes a baitcaster with 11 bearings, but I don't think I will trade my Shimanos in just yet.
Ronnie
Hey, you cut up my sentence to make it say what you wanted. You must be a political reporter by day. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Really, a decent reel can get by with just spool bearings. It's nice to have the basic 7 bearings though. Over time the worth of the bearings will show, IMO. I've had enough bushing reels to see what happens to them after a few years of use. No doubt the extra bearings, that are usually handle bearings are very debateable. I'm still trying to decide their worth myself.
Sam reply :
Shimano.
My Curado 7:1 is excellent.
cbfishalot reply :
It's all about what you like because they both make great reels. My choice is Daiwa.
Jeff H reply :
I'm not taking sides, I use both and like both equally. Daiwa has some really great reels.
michbass reply :
QuoteQuoteWhat About REVO's !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Hmm...
I don't think Shimano or Diawa make them yet. :
8-)
Lol, very funny...
All kidding a side. They both make excellent products. I own some of each and love them all. Don't limit yourself. No one wants to eat just apples everyday? I like to enjoy the best of many lines. Speaking of apples the core looks very tasty.
The_Natural reply :
Durability isn't an issue between Shimano and Diawa...both have proven to be bulletproof and reliable for over a decade. I like the precision of the Diawas, but I can't argue the Shimano's proven track record and reliability. It's just what you prefer. BMW vs. Mercedes; Pick your poison. After fishing both for a few years, the higher end Diawas just seem more refined, but if someone disagreed; I would'nt have an argument. It's just preference. Buttery smooth versus ridiculously tight tolerances...you make the decision.
Gone_Phishin reply :
All of the above. I have both, and will continue to buy both.
When it comes to plastics, jigs, C-rigs, and some topwater, I prefer Daiwa reels. They provide great feel for what is going on at the end of your line. Hence, I use them for bottom contact and feel presentations. My only quarrel is the mag V reels can be a bit cranky at times.
When it comes to spinnerbaits, cranks, jerkbaits, spoons, and some topwater, I prefer Shimano reels. They are a pleasure to crank because of the renown Shimano smoothness. I also like the 'set it-forget it' VBS system.
I must add that if the my reels had to be swapped, I wouldn't mind using Shimano for feel presentations, but I wouldn't be a huge fan of using my Daiwas for cranking.
Both Shimano and Daiwa have their own special places in my arsenal.
mike bat reply :
i say diawa
.RM. reply :
Ya know back in 1985 when I was training with Shimano®, I use to eat lunch with the Daiwa® techs, and when I was training with Daiwa® I was eating lunch with the Shimano® techs. Basically when the reel wars started...
Doucet,
Yea! IMPO.....Both companies make fine reels, as far as holding up, even a cheap no name reel will hold up if it is maintained properly...Quoteok so i really like the feel of diawa's( zillion, fuego, sol) but do they hold up like the shimano citicas and curados? I just want to buy a few good reals that will last any sugestions? or prefrence between the two?
Good Luck & Tight Lines In 08!!
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