The "prefect" mono? 2025
KingBass reply :
All right, so when I do get my next reel, I Don't wanna put braid on it, I've got it on my other reel and really like (I've been a braid only user for about a year). I don't like dow it makes my reel feel less smooth. So I wanna try to get mono. Here's what I want in the mono.
1) Thin diameter
2) Sensitive (I'm really picky about this)
3) low stretch
4) High abrasion resistance
5) low memory
Am I wanting something that does not exists? I'll spend up to 20 bucks on it. I want mono not flouro because it floats, I throw a lot of top waters so the flouro is a no because it sinks. I've head good stuff bait P-line Flouro clear.
Thanks,
islandbass reply :
Abrasion Resistance and Thin Diameter are two traits that are a bit opposed to each other. The way a mono is made "tougher" for the same strength is to usually increase its diameter for a pure single filiament line. I am excluding copolymers.
I think with the exception of abrasion resistance Trilene XL, Sufix Elite, and Stren Magnathin fit your bill.
Sufix of the three, resists memory the best.
Marty reply :
QuoteAm I wanting something that does not exists?
I'm afraid so. Mono is no exception, everything has tradeoffs.
Quitlimpin reply :
Just bump up to Yo-Zuri hybrid and get it all!
KingBass reply :
QuoteAbrasion Resistance and Thin Diameter are two traits that are a bit opposed to each other. The way a mono is made "tougher" for the same strength is to usually increase its diameter for a pure single filiament line. I am excluding copolymers.I think with the exception of abrasion resistance Trilene XL, Sufix Elite, and Stren Magnathin fit your bill.
Sufix of the three, resists memory the best.
QuoteQuoteAm I wanting something that does not exists?I'm afraid so. Mono is no exception, everything has tradeoffs.
Cool thanks IB!
I will sacrifice memory and thin diameter for anything else up there though. Those are the two least important things to me, the most important to me are abrasion resistant, and sensitivity (which goes along with low stretch).
QuoteJust bump up to Yo-Zuri hybrid and get it all!
I thought about it, I my snooping before I joined, I think some one named Road Worrier likes it, he said 12lb is like 20lb breaking strength.. Was he for reals? Sounds to go to be true! I wonder if it's sensitive though.....
Jake. reply :
QuoteI thought about it, I my snooping before I joined, I think some one named Road Worrier likes it
There's no need to pretend you haven't been here before Snapper G. Why not just reintroduce yourself and start over?
My favorite mono is Sunline Super Natural, it has the best combination of traits out of the ones you listed of any mono I've tried.
.dsaavedra. reply :
QuoteQuoteI thought about it, I my snooping before I joined, I think some one named Road Worrier likes itThere's no need to pretend you haven't been here before Snapper G. Why not just reintroduce yourself and start over?
lolz
......again......
.dsaavedra. reply :
Quote1) Thin diameter2) Sensitive (I'm really picky about this)
3) low stretch
4) High abrasion resistance
5) low memory
oh and by the way, you're asking for braid ;D
KingBass reply :
QuoteQuoteI thought about it, I my snooping before I joined, I think some one named Road Worrier likes itThere's no need to pretend you haven't been here before Snapper G. Why not just yourself and start over?
My favorite mono is Sunline Super Natural, it has the best combination of traits out of the ones you listed of any mono I've tried.
Crap....
Ask Islandbass, I know him from an other forum, ask 'im, I'm legit...... I've changed A LOT in the past 9 months.
I PMed Glenn
Dan: reply :
O.....M....G.....
btw, the perfect mono exists, it's called Copolymer 8-)
KingBass reply :
QuoteO.....M....G.....btw, the perfect mono exists, it's called Copolymer 8-)
Sure, Coply or Mono, as long as it's not braid or flouro (or sinks). I tried Vicious ultimate and didn't like it that much, still to stretchy.
KYntucky Warmouth reply :
QuoteO.....M....G.....btw, the perfect mono exists, it's called Copolymer 8-)
bingo....P-Line CX is pretty good and so is YZ hybrid
NewAngler reply :
Yea... RoadWarrior.. I think I've seen a couple of his posts.. Pretty knowledgable guy..
Have any of you other guys heard of this RW fellow?
Koop reply :
QuoteQuoteO.....M....G.....btw, the perfect mono exists, it's called Copolymer 8-)
bingo....P-Line CX is pretty good and so is YZ hybrid
+1
Please read my thread on PLINE vs Yo-Zuri, you may find it helpful in your search for a new copoly.
http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1251162105
KYntucky Warmouth reply :
QuoteYea... RoadWarrior.. I think I've seen a couple of his posts.. Pretty knowledgable guy..Have any of you other guys heard of this RW fellow?
DINK WHISPERER reply :
QuoteYea... RoadWarrior.. I think I've seen a couple of his posts.. Pretty knowledgable guy..Have any of you other guys heard of this RW fellow?
Nope, never heard of the guy......................................... :-X
Koop reply :
QuoteYea... RoadWarrior.. I think I've seen a couple of his posts.. Pretty knowledgable guy..Have any of you other guys heard of this RW fellow?
Is he the one who dresses up in a rabbit outfit and leaves pictures of shimano's under your pillow?
KYntucky Warmouth reply :
QuoteQuoteYea... RoadWarrior.. I think I've seen a couple of his posts.. Pretty knowledgable guy..Have any of you other guys heard of this RW fellow?
Is he the one who dresses up in a rabbit outfit and leaves pictures of shimano's under your pillow?
I just lost a tooth, I could use another Curado E7 
Koop reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteYea... RoadWarrior.. I think I've seen a couple of his posts.. Pretty knowledgable guy..Have any of you other guys heard of this RW fellow?
Is he the one who dresses up in a rabbit outfit and leaves pictures of shimano's under your pillow?
I just lost a tooth, I could use another Curado E7
I just had 4 wisdom teeth out last week... I could use a Stradic CI4 ;D
guitarkid reply :
QuoteYea... RoadWarrior.. I think I've seen a couple of his posts.. Pretty knowledgable guy..Have any of you other guys heard of this RW fellow?
I thought he was Irene's pimp.
-gk
Grey Wolf reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteI thought about it, I my snooping before I joined, I think some one named Road Worrier likes itThere's no need to pretend you haven't been here before Snapper G. Why not just yourself and start over?
My favorite mono is Sunline Super Natural, it has the best combination of traits out of the ones you listed of any mono I've tried.
Crap....
Ask Islandbass, I know him from an other forum, ask 'im, I'm legit...... I've changed A LOT in the past 9 months.
I PMed Glenn
Here we go again . Oh well they say the third time is the charm.
Willzx225 reply :
I have found alot of those same qualities in Sunline Defier as well. I've had 11lb on a shakey head rod since late April and it still has ZERO memory and has the same diameter of 10lb Berkley Sensation. it is awesome line. I am sure it is similiar to the Sunline Super Natural that Jake was talking about. I am very impressed with Sunline products just wish they were cheaper.
Welcome back Snapper G - prove us wrong.
KingBass reply :
QuoteI have found alot of those same qualities in Sunline Defier as well. I've had 11lb on a shakey head rod since late April and it still has ZERO memory and has the same diameter of 10lb Berkley Sensation. it is awesome line. I am sure it is similiar to the Sunline Super Natural that Jake was talking about. I am very impressed with Sunline products just wish they were cheaper.Welcome back Snapper G - prove us wrong.
I'll be happy too, I'm sure you guys will be happy for me to do it too! 
RoLo reply :
Until we sort out this name thingy, I'll have to call you King Snapper ;D
If this line is going on spinning gear, I'd strongly recommend that you stick with braid and forget monofilament line.
If it's going on a casting outfit, I'd choose Trilene Big Game for 'nylon' mono
and Sufix Elite or Sufix Siege for 'copolymer' mono.
Roger
Raul reply :
QuoteI will sacrifice memory and thin diameter for anything else up there though. Those are the two least important things to me, the most important to me are abrasion resistant, and sensitivity (which goes along with low stretch).
No true, sensitivity has nothing to do with stretch, it has to do with density.
Jeff H reply :
What kind of relationship is there between density and stretch? :-/
Dan: reply :
Doesn't braid have low density (it floats?) and it is much more sensitive than mono. On the other hand, fluoro is very dense (it sinks) and it is also more sensitive than mono?
Jeff H reply :
QuoteDoesn't braid have low density (it floats?) and it is much more sensitive than mono. On the other hand, fluoro is very dense (it sinks) and it is also more sensitive than mono?
It also stretches just as much as mono does. Seemed to the one time I used it. I don't have enough experience with it to say for sure, but I've known others here to say the same thing.
Fishing Rhino reply :
Sensitivity is the ability to transfer vibrations, impact, etc.
Not a whole lot different than the way sound is transmitted.
Air is a very poor conductor of sound. I travels better in less elastic substances. Sound travels faster in water, than air, and carries further. It travels faster yet in an iron rod.
It is transmitted poorly in a rubber band, unless it is stretched taut.
Mono, by nature cannot be a good transmitter of vibration, or shock since it tends to absorb, and cushion them. Want sensitivity, try monel wire. It won't cast well, however.
I used it years ago for striper fishing, and you'd feel everything. It was used primarily for getting lures and baits down deep w/o having to stream out a hundred yards of line.
The other line I used was lead core. Doubt they make it any more. It sunk quicker than regular line, but nowhere near as quick as mone.
The lead core line was a braid wrapped around a strand of lead. The neat thing was that it was colored in 10 yard increments. Helped in getting the lure at the desired depth consistently.
I know what you mean about the "feel" of braid. Makes a perfectly smooth reel feel like a coffee grinder.
Except for a couple of uses, I stick with the braid, and a fluoro leader. On a spinning reel, ten pound braid casts like two pound mono. And, you can get many more yards of line on a small spool.
Big Tom reply :
Just as others have mentioned, the line you may be looking for is Co-polymer. Try P-Line CXX or CX and Yo-Zuri. Both are nice lines.
KingBass reply :
QuoteIf this line is going on spinning gear, I'd strongly recommend that you stick with braid and forget monofilament line.
If it's going on a casting outfit, I'd choose Trilene Big Game for 'nylon' mono
and Sufix Siege for 'copolymer' mono.
Roger
So Sufix in copolymer 'eh! I didn't know that. I had it on my first bait caster, but than I got more into jigs and worms, and went to braid.
QuoteJust as others have mentioned, the line you may be looking for is Co-polymer. Try P-Line CXX or CX and Yo-Zuri. Both are nice lines.
I think I'll try P-line CXX, sounds really good!
Oh and this density to sensitivity thing you guys got going is making my head spin!
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Thanks a lot for the reply's guys! 
David P reply :
Too much for me to read right now, I'm sure it's been said, but plain and simple. .... There is no PERFECT line, if there was... everyone would be using the same thing.
I've come as close as I possibly can to be satisfied with what line I use, but like everything, it has it's trade offs.
Willzx225 reply :
Jeff- Fluro stretches much less than mono does hence the reason why some people don't like to flip with it since it lacks the shock resistance that mono has. That being said, I still prefer it for all but my spinnerbait and topwater presentations ;D
Cire reply :
QuoteThe other line I used was lead core. Doubt they make it any more. It sunk quicker than regular line, but nowhere near as quick as mone.The lead core line was a braid wrapped around a strand of lead. The neat thing was that it was colored in 10 yard increments. Helped in getting the lure at the desired depth consistently.
Just for information, they still do make lead-core line. It is used alot up here in trolling application for walleye, salmon, etc.
Cabelas actually sells the exact line you mentioned that is colored differently every 10yards.
Eric
RoLo reply :
QuoteQuoteThe other line I used was lead core. Doubt they make it any more. It sunk quicker than regular line, but nowhere near as quick as mone.The lead core line was a braid wrapped around a strand of lead. The neat thing was that it was colored in 10 yard increments. Helped in getting the lure at the desired depth consistently.
Just for information, they still do make lead-core line. It is used alot up here in trolling application for walleye, salmon, etc.
Cabelas actually sells the exact line you mentioned that is colored differently every 10yards.
Eric
I remember the first time I ever drift-fished with "lead-core" line (Stripers off Sandy Hook, NJ)
For the first few minutes I thought my lure was being attacked by a band of bluefish.
It was nothing more than the pebbles on the bottom :-[ ;D
Roger
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