St. Croix Avid vs St. Croix Mojo 2024
Travis Gasper reply :
I'm finally going to buy a St. Croix spinning rod, and was just curious to see if it's worth spending an extra $80 to go up from the Mojo to an Avid? I plan on getting a 7' medium for wacky rigging, and pairing it with the new Shimano Nasci reel. Any input would be great.
EvanT123 reply :
That's a tough one. I would say, no it's not. The avid x maybe....I'd recommend you watch some YouTube videos ask some questions in the rodbuilding forum and learn to put one together yourself!!
Travis Gasper reply :
On 7/28/2016 at 11:03 AM, EvanT123 said:That's a tough one. I would say, no it's not. The avid x maybe....I'd recommend you watch some YouTube videos ask some questions in the rodbuilding forum and learn to put one together yourself!!
Maybe a hobby to get into in the future, but for now I'll just be buying. Being from WI, I've wanted a St. Croix for years but didn't have the extra cash to justify it. Now I finally do so I'm in the market for one.
timsford reply :
To me it would be worth it because the avid is made in us and the mojo is made in mexico. I also like the full cork on the avid. The avid X is supposed to be very nice also, I'm just partial to full cork. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the avid has a better warranty also. The new mojo is a very nice rod also, and I think you would be happy with either of those or the avid x
Travis Gasper reply :
On 7/28/2016 at 12:27 PM, timsford said:To me it would be worth it because the avid is made in us and the mojo is made in mexico. I also like the full cork on the avid. The avid X is supposed to be very nice also, I'm just partial to full cork. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the avid has a better warranty also. The new mojo is a very nice rod also, and I think you would be happy with either of those or the avid x
I think you're right, both would be quality rods. Mojo is made in Mexico, Avid is made right here in WI. It wouldn't make much sense for me wanting a "WI brand" rod and buying the one made in Mexico. Plus the warranty is probably worth the $80 difference.
DaveT63 reply :
I've never fished with a Mojo, but the Avid is worth every penny of it's asking price. I would recommend it any day. If you keep an eye on the flea market, you could find one for the price of a new Mojo.
trupp30 reply :
I have both, and the avid is a much better rod. Completely worth the extra money
Nathan Burton reply :
+1 for the avid.
Fishin' Fool reply :
Seeing you're from Wisconsin maybe worth a trip over to the St Croix store. I remember a post that someone made regarding going there and they said you could get rods with very minor irregularities for a good discount.
roadwarrior reply :
The Avid Series is where St. Croix starts to shine.
dave reply :
I've been told that both rods being SCIII graphite, by no means makes it the same finished blank.
Avid all the way.
Travis Gasper reply :
On 7/28/2016 at 8:05 PM, Fishin' Fool said:Seeing you're from Wisconsin maybe worth a trip over to the St Croix store. I remember a post that someone made regarding going there and they said you could get rods with very minor irregularities for a good discount.
I have debated that, but with it being a 2 hour drive it would be more of a touristy thing than a money saver. I'm sure I will make the trip someday though. For now, you guys have convinced me on the Avid!
JGmon3y reply :
I used to fish an Avid a few years back, I must say hands down the best spinning rod I ever owned. I switched it up for a legend casting rod after I broke it on a boating accident. If money is not an issue go with the avid for sure but you cant go wrong either way.
J Francho reply :
I have over a dozen Avid rods, some more than 15 years old. I own no Mojos, though I've tried them. They aren't as crisp and light as an Avid. Within Saint Croix's product lines, the Avid is where the rods take a decent jump up in quality and performance. After that, the gains are incremental.
WIGuide reply :
On 7/28/2016 at 10:28 PM, Travis Gasper said:I have debated that, but with it being a 2 hour drive it would be more of a touristy thing than a money saver. I'm sure I will make the trip someday though. For now, you guys have convinced me on the Avid!
Trust me....it's worth it to make the drive. The store itself isn't that big (although they're planning to expand soon). You get a good look at everything they make. The B-stocks are one heck of a bargain. I was super tempted last night by another Legend Xtreme. $185 and the only defect I could see was one of the guide wraps weren't quite as tight together before it got clear coated. From a distance of more than about 8" you couldn't tell. Granted they don't have the full warrantee like the a-stocks do, but for the price difference it's easy to live with. They're now offering tours as well so you can see how they're made. One of the best days to go though is on their customer appreciation day. They have the Linders come out along with Joe Bucher. They've got free food, chances to win prizes, and they have some pretty good closeout sales.
As far as Mojo vs. Avid, go Avid or Avid X if you can swing it. The Mojo's are nice rods though and took a nice step up with the redesign.
BassThumb reply :
Avid, for sure!
St. Croix is a fine bunch of rods, but the Mojo was the only line that I was thoroughly dissapointed with. I thought they were on par with $75 rods. I sold them in the Flea Market on here.
Turkey sandwich reply :
On 7/29/2016 at 2:22 AM, BassThumb said:Avid, for sure!
St. Croix is a fine bunch of rods, but the Mojo was the only line that I was thoroughly dissapointed with. I thought they were on par with $75 rods. I sold them in the Flea Market on here.
You sold the Gen 2 SCIII rods in the flea market for $75?
*Hootie reply :
On 7/29/2016 at 2:27 AM, Turkey sandwich said:You sold the Gen 2 SCIII rods in the flea market for $75?
Probably means first generation Mojos. I sold mine. My second generation Mojos? I wouldn't part with them.
Hootie
fishnkamp reply :
I would go with the Avid X ,but if you want one for wacky rigging take a close look at the Avid X 6'8"MXF rod. I have a friend that been fishing with one and he loves it for unweighted sencos, light texas rigs, tubes, grubs etc. It is going to be my next rod, only I am going to match it up with an Okuma RTX30, man that thing is light.
BassThumb reply :
On 7/29/2016 at 2:27 AM, Turkey sandwich said:You sold the Gen 2 SCIII rods in the flea market for $75?
They were the first gen. I don't think I even got $65.
Jrob78 reply :
Unless you fish with leaders or fish in the winter I would personally go with the Avid X over the regular Avid. The difference in guides will make it a much more responsive rod. Being from WI, the guides will ice up faster with the X, so that might be a deal breaker for you.
Turkey sandwich reply :
On 7/29/2016 at 11:27 AM, Jrob78 said:Unless you fish with leaders or fish in the winter I would personally go with the Avid X over the regular Avid. The difference in guides will make it a much more responsive rod. Being from WI, the guides will ice up faster with the X, so that might be a deal breaker for you.
Similarly, the micro guides are also a slight pain in the ass with line wrap/tangling if you're fishing seated in a kayak. Still, even using a leader, I like them.
The Young Gun reply :
Put it this way, I live a hour from St Croix... I bought my first triumph st Croix and thought it was a nice rod, then I bought a 6'9mlxf avid spinning. And it felt like a whole new world in sensitivity and crisp and how perfect that rod was. Now I own 3 of the exact same rod. Buy a avid with a lifetime warranty and enjoy it.
Travis Gasper reply :
I plan on buying a 7' medium Avid tomorrow after I'm done fishing for the day. Right now I use a 7' medium Fenwick Eagle with a Shimano Symetre for wacky rigging, and I really like it. I'm curious to see how different the St. Croix Avid will be compared to it.
The Young Gun reply :
On 7/30/2016 at 10:06 AM, Travis Gasper said:I plan on buying a 7' medium Avid tomorrow after I'm done fishing for the day. Right now I use a 7' medium Fenwick Eagle with a Shimano Symetre for wacky rigging, and I really like it. I'm curious to see how different the St. Croix Avid will be compared to it.
I actually don't like the spinning M powered rods by st Croix. I think they feel a little heavy. I love my ML rage rod and spinning avids. With the XF actually they handle some pretty hefty lures. Just a personal preference! Enjoy your avid tho, you wont be disappointed. Mine are all matched with the new Daiwa Revros 2500s...
Travis Gasper reply :
I ended up buying a 7' medium Avid X last night. I played around with it at home and didn't like the handle, it was too small and didn't fit my hand very well. I have two baitcasters with the split grip handle, so I didn't think that would be a problem. I ended up taking it back today and had them order me a 7' medium Avid since it has the full cork handle like my Fenwick that I really like. Also, I didn't realize the X only has a 15 year warranty unlike the lifetime one the original Avid has.
punch reply :
Sure doesn't take people long to mention the Mojo's are made in mexico in like.. nearly every thread about Mojos. Why does that matter exactly? I just find it funny how predictable this forum is sometimes.
I have an avidx and a new mojo, and the avid x is WAY more sensitive and a smidge lighter.
Travis Gasper reply :
On 8/1/2016 at 11:40 AM, punch said:Sure doesn't take people long to mention the Mojo's are made in mexico in like.. nearly every thread about Mojos. Why does that matter exactly? I just find it funny how predictable this forum is sometimes.
I have an avidx and a new mojo, and the avid x is WAY more sensitive and a smidge lighter.
I like buying American made when I can, and especially being from and living in WI, I wanted a WI made St. Croix rod. Wanted to see people's opinions to see if the extra $80 was worth it quality wise.
Angry John reply :
On 8/1/2016 at 11:40 AM, punch said:Sure doesn't take people long to mention the Mojo's are made in mexico in like.. nearly every thread about Mojos. Why does that matter exactly? I just find it funny how predictable this forum is sometimes.
I have an avidx and a new mojo, and the avid x is WAY more sensitive and a smidge lighter.
Most people that are trying to shop american look at st croix because it supports american products. I have found that people dont know that all of the rods are not made in the states and it turns out to be a disappointment if the rod they get is made elsewhere.
wnspain reply :
On 8/1/2016 at 11:40 AM, punch said:Sure doesn't take people long to mention the Mojo's are made in mexico in like.. nearly every thread about Mojos. Why does that matter exactly? I just find it funny how predictable this forum is sometimes.
I have an avidx and a new mojo, and the avid x is WAY more sensitive and a smidge lighter.
I can't speak for anyone else, but the U.S. made vs. Mexico (or anywhere else) is an economic issue at the very least. Economics aside, Americans like to believe that goods made or manufactured in the U.S. are of better quality than Mexico, or some other third world country. As manufacturing processes and quality tooling along with the raw materials became available globally, many third world countries are now capable of producing quality goods.
I for one would rather buy something U.S. made because it provides income for American workers who spend their income on food and other necessities which provide income for U.S. workers in other industries. The whole global economy is rapidly changing, but if we keep buying foreign, we will soon realize that our manufacturing base has eroded and you will no longer have a choice of "American made". Our economy exploded during the industrial revolution largely due to the manufacturing of high quality goods and provided income for U.S. families to purchase housing, autos, electronics, etc. etc.
The more jobs that go to foreign workers, the more American cash goes outside the U.S., the more manufacturing that moves outside of our borders - the more America becomes a society of consumers without an industrial base to support our relatively high standard of living.
SO WHY DOES IT MATTER EXACTLY? SEE ABOVE
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