Shimano NASCI 2024
CrustyMono reply :
is this a good reel? I might get one
burrows reply :
Yes it is, no better spinning reel for the price it's a solid reel I recommend it. One down side it's a bit heavy for some people.IMO
PatrickKnight reply :
I like it but I think the Daiwa BG is a better reel for $100. The Daiwa has a full metal body with a direct drive handle.
burrows reply :
Oh really you like it better? do you happen to own one and fish with it or is this simply you deciding you like a product by simply looking at it? The nasci has a hagane body with x ship plenty strong.
PatrickKnight reply :
I have fished the BG but have only handled the Nasci. This is from Shimanos site and I don't see where it says Hagane body only gear. If it is a metal body and not composite my opinion on the best $100 spinning reel just changed.
http://fish.shimano.com/content/sac-fish/en/home/products/fishing-reels/spinning/nasci.html
burrows reply :
In all reality they are both good reels built to last. You really can't go wrong with Diawa or shimano once you get at that 100$ price point.
MJinMN reply :
I have been looking in the same general price range recently. My thoughts are that the Nasci is very smooth, but not as light as some other reels. I believe it is a bit smoother than my Ci4+ stradic, but the stradic is lighter. I also purchased the BG as an option and ended up returning it. I felt it was relatively heavy and not as smooth as either Shimano, although its components should last forever. If you don't need the saltwater option of the BG, I definitely would look at the Daiwa RG-AB. I bought one at Cabela's yesterday for $49. It is smoother than any of my Shimanos and weight-wise the 2500 feels similar to the Ci4+ 3000. If you want to use heavier line then you may have to go to the 3000 on the Daiwa which then offsets some of the weight advantage...
fishnkamp reply :
Here is another two options to look at before you spend your money. Okuma has stepped up their game in my opinion, especially in the spinning reels. I fish a lot of Pfluegers, but on the advice of a friend that fishes at least 3 or 4 times a week, I picked up an Okuma RTX 30. That is a nice reel and even nicer is their Helios reel. Very smooth and lightweight. They seem to be doing well for Bryan while standing up to some reel big bass, stripers and snakeheads.
hoosierbass07 reply :
Since I'm a Shimano spinning reel fan I will definitely be picking up one of these Nasci reels. But how in the world did they come up with a lame name like Nasci? Sahara, cool! Symetry, cool! Stradic, cool! Nasci? Ugh.
CrustyMono reply :
On 1/2/2017 at 5:18 AM, hoosierbass07 said:Since I'm a Shimano spinning reel fan I will definitely be picking up one of these Nasci reels. But how in the world did they come up with a lame name like Nasci? Sahara, cool! Symetry, cool! Stradic, cool! Nasci? Ugh.
I agree, it is a pretty NASTI name...
Hulkster reply :
Nasci is latin for 'to be born'. in one of the youtube vids they mention this.
I guess its because its the replacement for the symetre.
Big-Bass reply :
Check out the new Shimano Ultegra at Bass Pro. Official release is tomorrow. This reel replaced the Saros and once was only a JDM. It's the step between the NASCI and the Stradic FK.
http://www.basspro.com/Shimano-Ultegra-Spinning-Reel/product/175614/
PatrickKnight reply :
On 1/2/2017 at 8:53 AM, Big-Bass said:Check out the new Shimano Ultegra at Bass Pro. Official release is tomorrow. This reel replaced the Saros and once was only a JDM. It's the step between the NASCI and the Stradic FK.
http://www.basspro.com/Shimano-Ultegra-Spinning-Reel/product/175614/
I had not planned on getting a new spinner but I may just have to give this sucker a go.
Sammies77 reply :
On 12/30/2016 at 9:02 PM, Cheesefrank said:Oh really you like it better? do you happen to own one and fish with it or is this simply you deciding you like a product by simply looking at it? The nasci has a hagane body with x ship plenty strong.
Definitely doesn't have an aluminum body! It has a composite body, your info is wrong. I also think your comment is hilarious since a few posts before his you say the nasci is the best 100 dollar reel. Do you own and fish every 100 dollar reel?
Anyway....I've owned both, the nasci and the new daiwa bg, both 2500 size. The new bg is an awesome reel so far for the price, if it performs good for a few more months I will be buying more. It solid, smooth, and has a really good drag. The nasci has a lot of flex in the stem, and I guess shimano STILL hasn't resolved the binding problem because the first day I fished in a heavy rain it started binding by the end if the trip. It does have a really good drag though like all shimano's.
PatrickKnight reply :
On 1/3/2017 at 1:00 PM, Sammies77 said:Definitely doesn't have an aluminum body! It has a composite body, your info is wrong. I also think your comment is hilarious since a few post before his you say the nasci is the best 100 dollar reel. Do you own and fish every 100 dollar reel?
Anyway....I've owned both, the nasci and the new daiwa bg, both 2500 size. The new bg is an awesome reel so far for the price, if it performs good for a few more months I will be buying more. It solid, smooth, and has a really good drag. The nasci has a lot of flex in the stem, and I guess shimano STILL hasn't resolved the binding problem because the first day I fished in a heavy rain it started binding by the end if the trip. It does have a really good drag though like all shimano's.
I have noticed the binding issues as well on the lower to mid priced reels. I have said this before I do think Shimano makes the best spinning reels on the market once you get up to the Stradic and above.
webertime reply :
I'd still take a LONG look at the BG from Daiwa. Just specs out with really solid features and competitive weight and available for ~$80 in a few places. The Nasci is a plastic-ish frame with a sexy marketing that replaces a solid aluminum framed model.
illinifan4152 reply :
I would save up a little more money and try to get a stradic. I was able to pick up a stradic 2500 FJ from an action site brand new for 125. Awesome reel for not much more money. Definitely worth it in my opinion.
burrows reply :
On 1/3/2017 at 1:00 PM, Sammies77 said:Definitely doesn't have an aluminum body! It has a composite body, your info is wrong. I also think your comment is hilarious since a few post before his you say the nasci is the best 100 dollar reel. Do you own and fish every 100 dollar reel?
Anyway....I've owned both, the nasci and the new daiwa bg, both 2500 size. The new bg is an awesome reel so far for the price, if it performs good for a few more months I will be buying more. It solid, smooth, and has a really good drag. The nasci has a lot of flex in the stem, and I guess shimano STILL hasn't resolved the binding problem because the first day I fished in a heavy rain it started binding by the end if the trip. It does have a really good drag though like all shimano's.
Lol
Sammies77 reply :
On 1/4/2017 at 2:07 AM, Cheesefrank said:Lol
What's funny bud?
I.rar reply :
I actually have a 2500 Bg on the way to me now. Had some bps cards to burn through and needed a reel that could handle salt and fresh. While I love shimano spinning and casting reels, I had to go with the diawa this time. It'll be the first Daiwa reel I've owned. If I wanted it for freshwater only, I probably would have went with the nasti.
CTBassin860 reply :
Metal.Not plastic
Sammies77 reply :
On 1/4/2017 at 12:08 PM, MassBassin508 said:
Metal.Not plastic
Yes I understand shimano's silly sales pitch terms. The problem is the nasci doesn't have a "hagane" body. It has the black coated forged main gear which they used to call paladin gear enhancement and now they call it "hagene" gear. That's why they say the nasci has "hagane". Look at a new ci4, it says hagene right on the side of the body. Does it have an aluminium body? Nope. This is all just a way for shimano to confuse consumers instead of just stating if a reel has an aluminum frame or not. The nasci definitely DOES NOT have an aluminum body. Go to shimano's site and click on the details page for the nasci, it says hagene gearing. Now click on the stradic, it says hagene body and hagene gearing.
DenhamBruce reply :
Fact is you can pick up a NASCI and no matter what advantages Shimano claims "Hagane" has, the reel foot will still bend. Heck I'll take the Daiwa RG over it because its made from aluminum and I know it will never flex on the water. Shimano just cheaps out on their lower-end stuff because they know people will still buy it. You shouldn't have to buy a Stradic to get a reel made from aluminum.
S. Sass reply :
Cheesefrank loves Shimano you guys quit picking on his brand. 
burrows reply :
Aside all the Diawa fan boys the conclusion of the matter is there is no reel out there on the market for fresh water bass fishing,which is what I do, that is better built and as light as the nasci for 100 bucks ,bottom line.
On 1/4/2017 at 3:18 PM, S. Sass said:Cheesefrank loves Shimano you guys quit picking on his brand.
this is true ... lol
DenhamBruce reply :
Can't say that without handling all of them. I know they're not as nice as a BG lol at least that reel is made out of metal.
Sammies77 reply :
On 1/4/2017 at 10:07 PM, Cheesefrank said:Aside all the Diawa fan boys the conclusion of the matter is there is no reel out there on the market for fresh water bass fishing,which is what I do, that is better built and as light as the nasci for 100 bucks ,bottom line.
Well I'd have to totally disagree with that. Almost every other reel manufacturer makes a reel under a hundred bucks with an aluminium frame....Daiwa, pflueger, lews, heck even quantum. The pflueger supreme has a magnesium frame and rotor and is much lighter than the nasci for the same price.
webertime reply :
Plastic/Thermoset/Thermoplastic/Carbon/Graphite etc. aren't inherently bad. Plenty of big trolling reels out there that are Graphite are run for years or even decades. With that family of materials though, when something fails it gives no warning or yield beforehand. Whereas "Metals" do, thus giving you some warning to replace the part or be careful (IE stem/neck of a spinning reel). That more than anything is what makes the "Metal Frames" more advantageous.
Stiffness? well that's not really true... Aluminum is used in 747's wings flex up and down 6' over the course of a flight... and that same wing will fly for MILLIONS of miles. Even Aluminum is used in diving boards, so it flexes a lot and is still strong. A composite bicycle frame can be worlds stiffer than any steel or aluminum frame, it's all in how the materials are applied to a structure.
This shouldn't be about Daiwa vs Pflueger vs Shimano vs Carbon vs Alu. vs Lews vs. bamboo vs rice paper... because that's all sort of pointless. the producers of a fishing reel have engineers that are exponentially smarter than us and know what they are doing as far as applying materials to a structure for a specific use.
Sammies77 reply :
On 1/5/2017 at 2:03 AM, webertime said:Plastic/Thermoset/Thermoplastic/Carbon/Graphite etc. aren't inherently bad. Plenty of big trolling reels out there that are Graphite are run for years or even decades. With that family of materials though, when something fails it gives no warning or yield beforehand. Whereas "Metals" do, thus giving you some warning to replace the part or be careful (IE stem/neck of a spinning reel). That more than anything is what makes the "Metal Frames" more advantageous.
Stiffness? well that's not really true... Aluminum is used in 747's wings flex up and down 6' over the course of a flight... and that same wing will fly for MILLIONS of miles. Even Aluminum is used in diving boards, so it flexes a lot and is still strong. A composite bicycle frame can be worlds stiffer than any steel or aluminum frame, it's all in how the materials are applied to a structure.
This shouldn't be about Daiwa vs Pflueger vs Shimano vs Carbon vs Alu. vs Lews vs. bamboo vs rice paper... because that's all sort of pointless. the producers of a fishing reel have engineers that are exponentially smarter than us and know what they are doing as far as applying materials to a structure for a specific use.
It's cheaper to build a graphite framed reel than aluminum. Thats all it comes down to period, It's all about profit.
How well do you think the Stella would sell if they started making it with a graphite body? Compare a stradic and nasci side by side and see which one has more flex in the body and stem. You can argue your airplane, diving board, and bike theory all you want but it's pointless. A graphite framed reel has more flex than aluminum and causes gear misalignment under stress which leads to premature wear.
Now reels like the ci4 or daiwa zion are a different story, they are far superior to the graphite material used on the nasci and other lower end reels.
burrows reply :
Well the question was if This is a good reel and what their opinion was on it, I have one and that is my opinion you have a different opinion that's fine your entitled to it.
webertime reply :
On 1/5/2017 at 4:55 AM, Sammies77 said:It's cheaper to build a graphite framed reel than aluminum. Thats all it comes down to period, It's all about profit.
How well do you think the Stella would sell if they started making it with a graphite body? Compare a stradic and nasci side by side and see which one has more flex in the body and stem. You can argue your airplane, diving board, and bike theory all you want but it's pointless. A graphite framed reel has more flex than aluminum and causes gear misalignment under stress which leads to premature wear.
Now reels like the ci4 or daiwa zion are a different story, they are far superior to the graphite material used on the nasci and other lower end reels.
That's not what I am saying. And I agree to a point about the cost of production.
Sammies77 reply :
I guses what I'm trying to get at is shimano is about the only reel manufacturer that doesn't have a 100 dollar aluminum framed reel. The symetre used to be aluminum, but they cut cost and switched it to graphite. They try to confuse customers with silly catch phrases like hagene. You won't find ANY information stating what the frame is made from on the nasci anywhere on shimano's site. They are purposely trying to trick people into thinking it has an aluminumbody by putting a hagane logo right on the body. I'm not necessarily saying the nasci is a terrible reel, but it would definitely be better with an aluminum frame. It would also be better with a direct drive handle, heck even a 30 dollar pflueger Trion has one!
And I'm not a shimano hater or whatever, I have plenty of stradic and older curados that I love.
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