Chronarch 200E Vs. Ci4+ 2025
KGBass reply :
Is the $70 difference in price worth it? I am looking for a do it all reel. Plastics mainly but also spinner baits and lipless cranks. Would like input before the trigger is pulled. Don't throw anything over 3/4 oz.
zachb34 reply :
The only thing I can say is I think the ci4 should be compared to the 50e. I've heard those sizes are very similar.
skeletor6 reply :
On 8/20/2013 at 3:02 AM, zachb34 said:The only thing I can say is I think the ci4 should be compared to the 50e. I've heard those sizes are very similar.
For one, this question cannot be answered with accuracy. Many have not had the time to test the Ci4+ and put it through abuse and use that it takes to accurately compare a reel. So many of these questions are purely speculative. I know of a few that are testers for the Ci4+ and great things have been said. Still, I would wait for more reviews for an accurate response.
Zach, I believe the Ci4+ is more of a 100 sized Shimano and not a 50 size. Please correct me if I am wrong?
zachb34 reply :
Technically it's a 150 but someone on here says it palms almost like a 50On 8/20/2013 at 3:05 AM, skeletor6 said:For one, this question cannot be answered with accuracy. Many have not had the time to test the Ci4+ and put it through abuse and use that it takes to accurately compare a reel. So many of these questions are purely speculative. I know of a few that are testers for the Ci4+ and great things have been said. Still, I would wait for more reviews for an accurate response.
Zach, I believe the Ci4+ is more of a 100 sized Shimano and not a 50 size. Please correct me if I am wrong?
skeletor6 reply :
On 8/20/2013 at 3:18 AM, zachb34 said:Technically it's a 150 but someone on here says it palms almost like a 50
Gotcha, thanks for clarifying that. Nonetheless, I would wait for more reviews on the Ci4+. The 200e7's are time-tested reels. All the information I have at the moment points to the Ci4+ being a very nice reel, but without enough members being able to provide feedback i would proceed with caution. Even with Shimanos excellent QC.
zachb34 reply :
I have also heard great things about shimanos x ship which I believe the ci4 has.
Cgrinder reply :
It is *probably* worth the extra money, but at this point, it is all speculation.
LgMouthGambler reply :
Stick to the E, it has an aluminum frame. The Ci4 has a "plastic" frame, and will not hold up to what a 200E can. If you are going to be doing some light line finesse fishing, then by all means if you want to spend the $$. I have heard and seen too many issues due to the construction, and for another $70, nah.
War Eagle 44 reply :
On 8/20/2013 at 5:30 AM, LgMouthGambler said:Stick to the E, it has an aluminum frame. The Ci4 has a "plastic" frame, and will not hold up to what a 200E can. If you are going to be doing some light line finesse fishing, then by all means if you want to spend the $$. I have heard and seen too many issues due to the construction, and for another $70, nah.
What have you seen?
rockchalk06 reply :
On 8/20/2013 at 6:33 AM, War Eagle 44 said:What have you seen?
War,
Asking him an open ended question like that might produce national secrets or things a human should never see lol 
kickerfish1 reply :
On 8/20/2013 at 5:30 AM, LgMouthGambler said:Stick to the E, it has an aluminum frame. The Ci4 has a "plastic" frame, and will not hold up to what a 200E can. If you are going to be doing some light line finesse fishing, then by all means if you want to spend the $$. I have heard and seen too many issues due to the construction, and for another $70, nah.
Care to elaborate?
BUZZKIDD reply :
Also curious what has been seen regarding the ci4. Heard doesn't do it for me.
iabass8 reply :
probably nothing. the frame isn't plastic.it's the material used on the original ci4 but supposedly much stronger. there's very few on the water tests/reviews for anybody to draw any sort of conclusion about such a new reel. wait a few months for more to come out.
JD96 reply :
I'm an avid golfer, and fishing nuts and golfing nuts alike, we seem to speculate things.
in the golf world, it took a good while for graphite shafts to become trusted and an industry standard, that being said Tiger Woods, and I, play X100 steel shafts in our irons, an extra stiff low flex shaft for fast swings, but I'm 16 and have the perfect build for a hard fast swing, that being said; Tiger and I both play graphite in our drivers and fairway woods for the weight reduction, and added distance. But some older gentlemen and a few professionals have made a switch to all graphite shafts, because they save weight and are easier on the joints.
How does this relate to fishing? One might ask.
And my reply to that would be.
Weight is everything, in every sport, and fishing seems to be on the verge of going lighter, Bass fishing that is. I'm not saying I trust the composite or graphite frame as much as aluminum, because I will not buy the Ci4, I'm getting another aluminum frame Shimano, but once they work out all the kinks a composite frame might be the industry standard. If it proves to be as strong as aluminum, and lighter, why not trust it?
And to say a composite isn't strong enough is unfair, I swing a driver at a clubhead speed of 118 miles an hour, and Tiger Woods swings at 125+ so graphite isn't the weak flimsy material you would think if a 60-70 gram shaft can hold up to that force.
Not really sure why I posted that because I question the reel itself, but there it is, my speculation.
War Eagle 44 reply :
On 8/20/2013 at 7:18 AM, rockchalk06 said:War,
Asking him an open ended question like that might produce national secrets or things a human should never see lol
Hahaha 
LgMouthGambler reply :
Though I am not allowed to show anything or elaborate too much on this reel, I will say that I bought a Lews Super Duty instead, so what does that tell you?
*Hootie reply :
On 8/20/2013 at 5:49 PM, LgMouthGambler said:Though I am not allowed to show anything or elaborate too much on this reel, I will say that I bought a Lews Super Duty instead, so what does that tell you?
That you have finally come to your senses...lol.
Sorry LMG, I had to say that....lol, again.
Your buddy,
Hootie
bass1980 reply :
Wait, are we fishing for Groupers here or largemouths? I think some of you guys are over thinking this too much. Show me a reel that broke or cracked from a largemouth. Heck I even caught a 49" Muski on my T3B that's made out of Zion and at no point did I feel the material flex or felt like its about to come apart. It took me 12 minutes to pull her in because my setup wasnt geared for Ski's. The feel of Zion is different though. I have 2 CH201 and one CH51. They are sweet reels, but they are not that good to where I wouldn't want to try the CI4+. To the OP I would suggest to just get the CI4+ so you got the latest. You can easily sell it in the used market, that I am sure.
LgMouthGambler reply :
On 8/20/2013 at 7:43 PM, hootiebenji said:That you have finally come to your senses...lol.
Sorry LMG, I had to say that....lol, again.
Your buddy,
Hootie
I had a feeling that was coming, lol.
rubba bubba reply :
On 8/20/2013 at 5:49 PM, LgMouthGambler said:Though I am not allowed to show anything or elaborate too much on this reel, I will say that I bought a Lews Super Duty instead, so what does that tell you?
That Captain Bob finally hacked your account.
LgMouthGambler reply :
On 8/20/2013 at 9:50 PM, rubba bubba said:That Captain Bob finally hacked your account.
Bwahahahahaha! Too funny!
lmbfisherman reply :
On 8/20/2013 at 2:52 AM, KGBass said:Is the $70 difference in price worth it? I am looking for a do it all reel. Plastics mainly but also spinner baits and lipless cranks. Would like input before the trigger is pulled. Don't throw anything over 3/4 oz.
I own a CI4+ and have been fishing it for a total of 1 week. It's an awesome reel and very light, I have fished my Chronarch 50E side by side with it. (GLX 853C paired with CI4+ now, I find the balance is better than on my MH 7'1" Cumulus and my GLX 854C is paired the Chronarch 50E). Even though the CI4+ is a size 150, it seems as palmable as the 50E. I also find the build of the CI4 to feel solid. As for the performance, jury is still out for me vs the Chronarch 50E. I will give an edge to the CI4+ in casting, it is so easy and effortless over the E. Other than that, I do not see big difference in performance (casting and retrieving), although to be fair I haven't broken down the CI4+ yet and did a cleaning. (Been feeling lazy the last couple weeks) I definitely will have to do that. I haven't tested how well it performs with a fish on either, as the fishing has been tough the last couple times I've been out. (But the Perch and Sunfish bite is on for my crankbait and 5" senkos) So don't know how it feels with a bass on.
But imo - I believe it is worth it...especially if you like to fish a size 50 reel and want a little more line capacity and the quality in the reel, you can just feel it.
lmbfisherman reply :
On 8/20/2013 at 5:49 PM, LgMouthGambler said:Though I am not allowed to show anything or elaborate too much on this reel, I will say that I bought a Lews Super Duty instead, so what does that tell you?
LMG I'm not understanding what "you've seen", but this reel doesn't feel cheap. I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion. 
tomustang reply :
It comes down to wanting something more out of the chronarch e and paying for it. With the ci4 you get a little bit more spool capacity, a higher gear option, the strength of the xship, and for looks a much cooler paint job. Only the buyer can decide if that's worth the $70 bump
Grantman83 reply :
I would say the issue comes down to a Chronarch E which actually has a history of use going back to the Curado E. There is therefore a much longer history for people to go by. Obviously, people love the Curado E and as such would love the Chronarch E. However, the Chronarch is just that, an old Curado.
This Chronarch may bring the high level of enthusiasm back to the Chronarch line ALA the D series which is a phenomenal reel. I applaud Shimano for trying to up the ante on the Chronarch line again AND find a middle ground between the Core and Chronarch E. It seems to me that the literally took the middle ground by offering a 150 size, higher gear ratio and an X-ship which supposedly helps with smoothness. Now my stradic FJ is smooth as butter so if a hint of that new power moves into the chronarchs it will be a welcome addition.
I think we just need to sit back and wait and see. Let people buy them and let the reviews come before jumping to conclusions regarding feel, smoothness and longevity.
K_Mac reply :
LMG
When you returned to this board I was, and am, glad to see you back, I hoped that after a little time away you could settle back in as the leading proponent of Shimano reels. 
I still have that hope. You are a passionate guy, with a shorter fuse than is good for you. So am I. I have just had more years to have some of the sharper edges knocked off. 
I have learned that life is too short to worry about the small stuff, and it is almost all small stuff. Relax and enjoy the ride my friend.
skeletor6 reply :
On 8/25/2013 at 12:36 AM, K_Mac said:LMG
When you returned to this board I was, and am, glad to see you back, I hoped that after a little time away you could settle back in as the leading proponent of Shimano reels.
I still have that hope. You are a passionate guy, with a shorter fuse than is good for you. So am I. I have just had more years to have some of the sharper edges knocked off.
I don't know that we need a proponent for any company. That just leads to extreme subjectivity. Objective honest comparisons with informative observations is helpful to those on the forum spending their hard earned money. Saying I bought this reel over that reel without explanation does not tell a user anything other than the history of someones purchases. Which to most is unhelpful.
Capt.Bob reply :
On 8/25/2013 at 12:59 AM, skeletor6 said:I don't know that we need a proponent for any company. That just leads to extreme subjectivity. Objective honest comparisons with informative observations is helpful to those on the forum spending their hard earned money. Saying I bought this reel over that reel without explanation does not tell a user anything other than the history of someones purchases. Which to most is unhelpful.
We all have opinions, and regardless what some think,,,,,,on any open forum they should have there opinion, we should respect that, and there will always be those that think differently!!!! It is good to have some that make comments with more than a BRIEF,,, time to gain there experience, I agree with K_Mac,,,, after some time under your belt you will to!! 
diavolos reply :
On 8/20/2013 at 5:30 AM, LgMouthGambler said:Stick to the E, it has an aluminum frame. The Ci4 has a "plastic" frame, and will not hold up to what a 200E can. If you are going to be doing some light line finesse fishing, then by all means if you want to spend the $$. I have heard and seen too many issues due to the construction, and for another $70, nah.
What the hell??? I own a jdm metanium xg and its made out of ci4+ and its very durable, you get what you pay for in almost anything you buy, the svs braking system is awesome, the chronarch also has micro gearing (i think) wich makes the 7.6 ratio have alot more torque than previous models (probably the torque of a 6. something. ci4+ is a carbon infused plastic but is so durable, anyway even if it was a bit less durable, as long as you dont run over it with a car i dont think you will say its less durable at all.
The new chronarch is an awesome us reel but since I invested 450$ on the jdm core(metanium), i honestly havent fished a better reel in all my life. I am sure that until they release a new version of the us core, the chronarch might own the spotlight until then even if there is less bearings inside.
LgMouthGambler reply :
On 8/25/2013 at 12:36 AM, K_Mac said:LMG
When you returned to this board I was, and am, glad to see you back, I hoped that after a little time away you could settle back in as the leading proponent of Shimano reels.
I don't want to be a proponent for anything. Its just for my 20 years of hardcore fishing, I know what I see, and I see what I know. I have seen things come and go, and notice the changes that companies are making. I will give credit where I believe credit is due, much as I really like the Lews Super Duty but not crazy about their other models. What I am saying is that what Shimano is doing is, shall I say, a different approach to up their marketing. Do I think a reel frame made of anything but metal is a good idea, no. Will it work for certain types of fishermen, yes. Lets just say the idea is there, but being able to pull a 10# Bass out of a the mat with heavy line, its just not gonna hold up very long. If I were gonna opt for the ultimate finesse reel, I would gladly mount that bad boy on a nice rod, but that type of fishing is not in the dictionary of S FL Bassin'. So, for someone looking for a good all around reel, this might not be the ticket. I would rate this reel as a technique specific style, spen d the money if you have nothing better to do with it reel. Does that help at all?
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