I am about to get a new rod dedicated to finesse teqniques (drop shot, split shot/mojo, ned rig, shakey head, wacky rig). So I am going to get a medium-light spinning rod. My question is, what would be the best type of line to spool it with? I'm thinking straight Fluorocarbon is out due to handling issues, so my options are either a good copolymer or a braid to fluoro set up. What do you guys think?
Sunline sniper fc in 4 or 6 pound test.
For me it's braid. Braid for spinning, casting, everything.
I use 10lb (yellow Power Pro) and 15lb (Power Pro Super Slick)
on my spinning reels, and 20lb yellow PP on my casting gear.
10lb is = 2lb test mono diameter
15lb is = 4lb test mono diameter
20lb is = 6lb test mono diameter
On each I'll tie a leader of copoly or fluoro anywhere from 4-15 lbs.
Generally I use 6-15 leaders, but will go to 4 for when I need a very
light presentation.
My .02.
On 7/28/2015 at 7:26 AM, Fisherwr said:Sunline sniper fc in 4 or 6 pound test.
I was gonna say 7# Sniper but he said no FC. Sniper is so good and reasonably priced that it's worth trying IMHO.
I use 8lbs braid to 6lbs fluoro
I hate to start another line debate but here goes...
I have 2ML and 1M spinning setups all using Shimano reels. For these I use straight FC either Seaguar red label or Sniper in 7 or 8 lb. I spool my own and keep a few extra spools at all times. I have never had the horrific issues with straight FC that are posted. I do apply a bit of line conditioner periodically. I change out line twice per year on these reels. If you spool it right it just doesn't cause problems (for me). I am not a fan of tying leaders to braid and have fished it but again have no reason not to go straight FC. I would not follow the straight FC haters and give it a legit try. Senkos are no problem as the line doesn't sink like a rock so I can line watch easily. DS and SH cast well and the line stands up to abuse pretty well so long as you check for nicks. Knots are not as easy to tie but can be learnedly to work. Double palomar or improved clinch work great for me.
Good Luck!
On 7/28/2015 at 8:15 AM, MrBigFishSC said:I hate to start another line debate but here goes...
I have 2ML and 1M spinning setups all using Shimano reels. For these I use straight FC either Seaguar red label or Sniper in 7 or 8 lb. I spool my own and keep a few extra spools at all times. I have never had the horrific issues with straight FC that are posted. I do apply a bit of line conditioner periodically. I change out line twice per year on these reels. If you spool it right it just doesn't cause problems (for me). I am not a fan of tying leaders to braid and have fished it but again have no reason not to go straight FC. I would not follow the straight FC haters and give it a legit try. Senkos are no problem as the line doesn't sink like a rock so I can line watch easily. DS and SH cast well and the line stands up to abuse pretty well so long as you check for nicks. Knots are not as easy to tie but can be learnedly to work. Double palomar or improved clinch work great for me.
Good Luck!
Not trying to be mean so don't take it the wrong way, but the only positive from your post is not tying a leader. If you were trying to convince me, you should use the positive aspects not the negative ones. This post only makes me think of throwing FC as a lot of work versus just throwing Mono instead.
Braid offers the smallest diameter which means best casting distance. The low stretch not only allows you to follow up the long cast with a solid hookset, it will also allow you to detect very subtle bites even with light and small plastics. Also if you go straight 10# braid, you will get the most natural presentation with the light weights. A FC leader will make your line ghost, while keeping most of the qualities of the braid line intact. The best of both worlds of finesse fishing. Just seems to me the only downside of braid is you might need or want a leader. But that's is why you don't use it, not why it would be better suited.
Again not being mean, just looking for a positive reason to use FC.
I'd use 10-15 lb braid, and use a 7 lb FC leader. Only tricky part is the connection between the braid and FC, but I use a power swivel to avoid any breakage issues (FC is prone to getting a weak spot and breaking if you're not spot on with your knot).
All if the techniques you mentioned are considered bottom contact with some sort of weight involved with the exception of a wacky rig. I'd go with braid with the only downfall being you won't have the slack line sensitivity fluorocarbon offers with the wacky presentation, and your bait won't sink as quickly which can be good if fishing them in shallow water. I do use Sniper on my dedicated wacky rig, but the stretch drives me bonkers.
I'd be running braid main line with a fluoro leader, like I already do for all those techniques. I like how much more solid the hooksets are with braid versus fluoro/mono/copoly with a spinning combo.
It seems the opinions are very split between braid to fluoro and straight fluoro
On 7/28/2015 at 1:26 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I'd be running braid main line with a fluoro leader, like I already do for all those techniques. I like how much more solid the hooksets are with braid versus fluoro/mono/copoly with a spinning combo.
I do the same on my only spinning outfit. (20# braid with a 12# flouro leader)
In the waters I fish useing 6# to 10# anything as a mainline just gives me the chivers!
Mike
I use 15lb pp and 12lb sniper leader on all my spinning rigs and i love it.
Im also buying a medium light and im gonna be rigging it with 10lb pp and 6lb sniper
I guess braid to fluoro it is!
On 7/28/2015 at 7:30 AM, John G said:I was gonna say 7# Sniper but he said no FC. Sniper is so good and reasonably priced that it's worth trying IMHO.
I've had almost zero problems with line management in sniper 6 lb test. It's definitely worth a try.
Throwing one more opinion, I have serious problems with straight fluoro on spinning gear. But I do use 15# braid with a 8# fluoro leader and on I rig I use 6# AN40 copolymer which I love. Braid is for drop shot and finesse and the copolymer I use for rooster tails and weightless baby flukes or small jerkbaits.
Yo-Zuri Hybrid #4, 8.5 lb breaking strength.
I tried Co poly on my bfs set up and it was terrible. It was okay for treble hooks, but I don't know how you guys are getting solid hook sets with soft, light rods, and stretchy line on much of anything else.
Thanks for the polite rebuttal.On 7/28/2015 at 11:11 AM, AdamsEye said:Not trying to be mean so don't take it the wrong way, but the only positive from your post is not tying a leader. If you were trying to convince me, you should use the positive aspects not the negative ones. This post only makes me think of throwing FC as a lot of work versus just throwing Mono instead.
Braid offers the smallest diameter which means best casting distance. The low stretch not only allows you to follow up the long cast with a solid hookset, it will also allow you to detect very subtle bites even with light and small plastics. Also if you go straight 10# braid, you will get the most natural presentation with the light weights. A FC leader will make your line ghost, while keeping most of the qualities of the braid line intact. The best of both worlds of finesse fishing. Just seems to me the only downside of braid is you might need or want a leader. But that's is why you don't use it, not why it would be better suited.
Again not being mean, just looking for a positive reason to use FC.
I wasn't promoting FC so much as defending it against the OP's comment that it's out due to handling problems. If you spool it right and I think this is a problem for some people it's no more trouble than mono. I get good castability and better sensitivity and durability than mono. I don't fish braid as a rule and don't feel I am missing out on anything with finesse techniques. That said I might setup one rod with each and experiment. Line is so subjective that it's tough to make blanket statements. I would encourage the OP to try different types for himself and decide which he prefers.
On 8/1/2015 at 7:33 AM, MrBigFishSC said:Thanks for the polite rebuttal.
I wasn't promoting FC so much as defending it against the OP's comment that it's out due to handling problems. If you spool it right and I think this is a problem for some people it's no more trouble than mono. I get good castability and better sensitivity and durability than mono. I don't fish braid as a rule and don't feel I am missing out on anything with finesse techniques. That said I might setup one rod with each and experiment. Line is so subjective that it's tough to make blanket statements. I would encourage the OP to try different types for himself and decide which he prefers.
Holla bro and I would agree with you! Like you said it's subjective for us all! I know you weren't promoting it, I just wanted to see you translate it better and the last part of your post NAILED IT! We should all encourage each other to keep an open mind, I know I need that from time to time LOL!
On 7/30/2015 at 12:12 AM, Hogsticker said:I tried Co poly on my bfs set up and it was terrible. It was okay for treble hooks, but I don't know how you guys are getting solid hook sets with soft, light rods, and stretchy line on much of anything else.
I would agree with you that co-poly stretches more than braid. However co-poly's will generally stretch a significant amount LESS than any fluorocarbon.
I use copolymer almost exclusively on my spinning rods and have no problem what so ever with getting good hook sets with minimal effort!
On 7/29/2015 at 5:57 AM, Ads7633 said:I guess braid to fluoro it is!
That's a good choice.
Consider: Berkley Trilene XL.
The Old School Basser...
I think you ought to spool up with Gliss. Since not many have experienced it yet, you'll be as smart as the rest of us...
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Wait, which co poly stretches less than any fluorocarbon? Is that even possible? Every co poly I've ever used stretches way more than the likes of Toray, Shooter, or the like. Even more so than Sniper. Invivx is a whole different story, but across the board I have to disagree.
6-8lb trilene XL. I'm old school
You have to go with a 10lb braid mainline. You'll save yourself so many line mgmt headaches. It casts farther easier, and line twist doesn't affect braid. You can double uni to a 4-8 lb Invizx leader no problem.