came across this article online, was wondering if anyone does this? what do you have to say about this?
Link doesn't work, but i have a few reels that are supertuned. Its nice, especially on old or cheap reels. You can cast farther with it, but the biggest thing for me was being able to cast the same distance, with much less effort and you can make quieter, more accurate casts because you aren't throwing your bait with all your might. With the money IMO
The link does not appear to be working. If you are referring to super tuning a bait caster it does help. There are people all over that super tune reels.
I believe that Delaware Valley Tackle, a board sponsor does this work.
SJ
Nothing super new, alot of guys do this to their reels. Helps but IMO wouldn't do this to a reel that is just out of the box.
i think super tuning is 90% fad, 5% kick asss customer service, and 5% keeping up with the Jones.
id rather just fish.
Yep, I love my Citisaurus. I have ABEC 7's, a Carbontex drag, the bearings have all been flushed and lubed, and the internals have been polished. It does make a difference, I just wouldn't do it to my Citica again.
However when I get a 50e, everything mentioned above minus the drag will be done to it.
IMO, the drag upgrade is so pointless. If you want a better drag, give the fish line on a free spool...
Most of the older models benefit from it more than the newer models.
QuoteIf you want a better drag, give the fish line on a free spool...
Not if you want to keep the line tight and the fish hooked.
Super Tuning is beneficial on reels with a one piece spool shaft. The older Curados are prime candidates and respond very well. Expectations depend upon the reel model and current condition.
QuoteMost of the older models benefit from it more than the newer models.
Correct!
Super Tuning is a process by which you polish ALL free spooling friction points on older reels to bring them up to today casting abilities.
Trying to tune the new 2 piece spool shafts doesn't work, there are usually only 2 bearings that are part of the free spool assembly now. The spool shafts aren't part of the spool any longer.
Lots of reasons why new series reels don't really need tuning.
BTW tuning isn't part of upgrading (ie bearings, drags, etc.)
Good Luck & Tight Lines!
Most reels, including brand new and high-end,
will perform best with a thorough cleaning right
out of the box. Regardless of the manufacturer,
some reels are over greased, some under lubricated.
I know a lot of our members break down their reels
before they ever use them.
8-)
QuoteQuoteIf you want a better drag, give the fish line on a free spool...Not if you want to keep the line tight and the fish hooked.
I've neve lost a fish while doing that. If that changes this year, I'll let you know.
I am using braid though. I just cinch my drag down all the way. If a fish REALLY pulls hard I'll give them some line. I had a fish last year pull probably five yards of line off my Citica while I had it all the way down. It was very impressive. I got it on video too.
And you might never lose a fish.....but eventually you WILL smoke a pinion gear.
Delaware Valley Tackle just serviced 3 of my reels. Send them to him and he will evaluate them and tell you what they could benefit from. Thats what I did and everything seems as good as new.
You can do a lot of things to a reel, sometimes it 's worth sometimes it 's not. More modern reels don 't benefit much as older reels do, for example, drag pad upgrade, older reels used compressible pad material for the drag ( leather, cardboard or cork ), probably that 's why most of us old farts make backing off the drag after use a habit, if you kept the drag tightened the drag pads compressed over time and when you needed the drag well, it wasn 't there anymore, you wore it out by keeping the drag tightened. Modern reels do not use compressible pad material most of the times, with a few still out there ( like the PIxy --> cork drag pad ) in most reels you won 't "need" drag pad replacement, sure you might want a smoother more fluid drag but you don 't "need" it, simply you want it. Bearing upgrade ? like in the previous case, older reels have older bearings, newer more modern bearings are better than the old ones.
So it 's a matter of preference, sometimes it 's worth, sometimes is not.
Now, pimping a reel is a completely different story.
Supertuning is no fad. Although, it is not for everyone. The average angler that is used to stock reels whether high end or low end has never casted a supertuned reel and doesn't understand why someone would change that. I know a lot of people that think that cleaning a new reel and relubing it is dumb and that I am wasting my time. I am new to the supertuning game and just did 4 Revo S's for my friend and he has gained 10-15 yards on the cast. Most of that came because his idea of cleaning was sticking it under running water and then adding hot sauce. My recommendation is that you don't knock it until you try it and if you want to try it start with simple clean and relube. If you notice the performance increase just think what better bearings and a polish will do for you. If you don't notice it then at least your reel got a nice bath and some fresh oil and grease.
Help me understand how supertuning can make a reel that spins so freely that I have to use at least some cast control on it to prevent backlashes. I know, I need to practice, but anything beyond that?
Also, I would very carefully choose who you are sending your reel to. I had one supertuned and it came back wrecked from grinding on the spool shaft.
The idea is to just polish up the surfaces, not to alter the shape at all. You should always use a trusted source for all your reel service. As far as a reel becoming hard to handle, fine tuning can be done with various oil viscosities.
I wonder if I can supertune my shimano cardiff 200 that I have had for about 6 years now.I have it getting serviced now.Getting it cleaned and lubed.It wasnt casting that good.My abu garcia revo premier cast alot further than my cardiff.I just dont like round reels.
That reel should respond well to tunning including a Carbontex Drag Kit.
How much would it cost to supertune that reel.
Labor: $28 Clean/Lube/Tune
Parts: $6
Disc: -$3.40 (10%)
Total: $30.60 plus shipping
I just had Mike (Delaware Valley Tackle) do exactly that to my Cardiff 200, and the improvement was significant. great swimbait reel. It took me a few casts to get dialed back in to the reel actually.
Now if I can just organize myselff enough to finish getting him started on the rod I want...
Mike at Delaware Valley Tackle just cleaned a few of my reels and supertuned three of them. A Chronarch 50mg, A BPS Johnny Morris Sig series, and an old junky entry level Shakespeare Axiom that I wasn't using at all.
All reels showed significant improvement in smoothness and casting. The Axiom was an old loaner that wasn't getting used at all. Now it can be used as a loaner/emergency backup if needed.
If you've never tried it, send an older reel to Mike and let him work his magic. At least then you'll have first hand experience to draw from. Mike won't let you down.
What is the average turnaround time on cleaning and tuning? I have a pflueger president that I think could benefit from it.
On 4/11/2011 at 9:47 AM, lou304 said:What is the average turnaround time on cleaning and tuning? I have a pflueger president that I think could benefit from it.
PM sent! Thanks
On 4/11/2011 at 11:35 PM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:PM sent! Thanks
Didn't get the PM!! Not sure why.
On 4/12/2011 at 12:15 AM, lou304 said:Didn't get the PM!! Not sure why.
I just tried again. Let me know if it's working. You can also email mlawson@delawarevalleytackle.com or call 973-459-2835
Thanks,
Mike