I have used powerpro and powerpro super 8 slick on my baitcasters that I use braid. Never tried anything else. Is there anything better out there? I find 20 lb casts better than 50 lb but the line digs in quite a bit on the 20. Maybe 30? The 50 lb just seems to bulky for my liking and I fish mainly smallmouth rivers that doesn't have heavy cover so no need for the 50-65b heavy stuff anyway. Just looking to make an order and get the baitcasters ready for the upcoming season. Wanted to try something different but wanted to hear an opinion or 2.
I find that for good over all (non-heavy cover) casting & fishing the below lines perform well on casting reels.
The test I use vary as each companies line diameter is different.
Sufix 832 Braid Lo-Vis Green 30 lb.
Power Pro Spectra Braided Line Moss Green 30 lb.
Daiwa Samurai Braided Line 40 lb.
Seaguar Kanzen Braided Line Green 30 lb.
A-Jay
I kind of cheap out, but I ended up with a case of the Spiderwire 30b moss green years ago, and its what Ive been using ever since.
Works really well for what I do..
On 11/23/2015 at 10:49 AM, Bass2124 said:I have used powerpro and powerpro super 8 slick on my baitcasters that I use braid. Never tried anything else. Is there anything better out there? I find 20 lb casts better than 50 lb but the line digs in quite a bit on the 20. Maybe 30? The 50 lb just seems to bulky for my liking and I fish mainly smallmouth rivers that doesn't have heavy cover so no need for the 50-65b heavy stuff anyway. Just looking to make an order and get the baitcasters ready for the upcoming season. Wanted to try something different but wanted to hear an opinion or 2.
When you find S8S on sale its tough to beat IMO. Strength,casting,lack of noise, smoothness and on sale= winner.
Smackdown not as strong(30#SD vs 20# S8S) not as quiet and costs more.
832 not as quiet even more noticeable not as smooth & 20# vs 20# S8S a bit stronger
On 11/23/2015 at 11:07 AM, A-Jay said:I find that for good over all (non-heavy cover) casting & fishing the below lines perform well on casting reels.
The test I use vary as each companies line diameter is different.
Sufix 832 Braid Lo-Vis Green 30 lb.
Power Pro Spectra Braided Line Moss Green 30 lb.
Daiwa Samurai Braided Line 40 lb.
Seaguar Kanzen Braided Line Green 30 lb.
A-Jay
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On 11/23/2015 at 11:30 AM, Bass2124 said:AJ.....Thanks for the feedback. I see that you are 1 post shy of 10,000! It would be an honor if you replied 1 more time to my topic if you haven't done so already!
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A-Jay
On 11/23/2015 at 11:39 AM, A-Jay said:BOOM ~
A-Jay
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I really like the Seaguar Kanzen despite some having durability issues with it, I've had none. The Seaguar Smackdown is great too for a little more money but I don't feel the need to go above the Kanzen, which I also feels cast a little better.
I have grown quite fond of the sunline sx1
I've always used original Power Pro.
Tried Kanzen but found it a little too "course" for my liking.
Went back to the Power Pro and have no plans to try something else again.
Mike
Give P-Line's TCB 8 a shot. I fish braid on all my rods including cranking, and have fished PP, SS, 832. 30lb is my most used size, although I do use 20 on my two lighter cranking outfits (power pro). Everything else is either 832 or P-Line TCB 8. I'm leaning more to TCB 8 over 832 at this point as I really like the feel of it. And the 10lb lays great on my spinning reel (25 size).
I'm a big fan of 832 and TCB 8 as well.
I just picked up a spool of the new Diawa J Braid this weekend. It feels similar to Smackdown, so I'm curious to see how it does on the water. In the spring. On soft water. You know?
On 11/23/2015 at 9:47 PM, gulfcaptain said:Give P-Line's TCB 8 a shot. I fish braid on all my rods including cranking, and have fished PP, SS, 832. 30lb is my most used size, although I do use 20 on my two lighter cranking outfits (power pro). Everything else is either 832 or P-Line TCB 8. I'm leaning more to TCB 8 over 832 at this point as I really like the feel of it. And the 10lb lays great on my spinning reel (25 size).
How durable is the teflon? I really like the fact that it has a teflon coating giving it smoothness. I hate the feel of braid and that is why I like the super 8 over regular powerpro. I am deinitely going to give it a shot. I am a huge fan of Berkley Nanofil as it is it is incredibly smooth and casts a mile and has that teflon feel. In my mind I am invisioning the added distance with this stuff. The only downside to nanofil is that the durability is questionable at times. I have had pretty good luck with it but it does break off from time to time but for me, since I don't tournament fish, the smoothness and distance are worth it.
The 30 I have been using still has that feeling to it and the color retention is much better then 832. I used to use Super 8 but found after about 9 months it started to have issues with the braid having some filaments break in odd spots and tried 832 and never went back. Just put the standard TCB on my swimbait rods as well.
My favorite braid is daiwa samurai. I have 55 on my spinnerbait/swimjig rod and love it. Next year I'm going to put 30lb on my GLX 855 crankbait rod - which besides 1/2 oz and larger cranks and lipless I just started throwing chatterbaits on and like it for that application as well. I'll even start throwing larger topwaters as well.
Matt
In addition to various brands of braid you might consider the reel you have it on. Older reels don't seem to have as quick a back and forth line overlap when reeling and will definitely cause more line digging into itself. And a faster ratio reel will cross wind the line more effectively too.
I have been impressed with a few braids, namely Power Pro Super Slick 8, Sufix 832 and Tuff Line XP. I have used Sufix 832 in line weights from 6# to 65# and been very happy with it. It is pricier than the other two lines and it is one of the very few sinking braids. I like Power Pro 8 for top water and frogging in 40# to 65# and shallow jigging, and Tuff Line in 30# for pitching Jackall Cover Craws. I use the 30# because it is plenty strong and smaller diameter and allows the Cover Craw to slide backwards into the cover as it's designed to do with very little line resistance. I have the least overrun (backlash) issues with 832 and Sufix Super 8. You will get them occasionally regardless.
I'm sure there are other very good braids also but it gets very pricey when you start buying multiple spools and brands of braid. Previously I had used Stealth and been pretty happy with it. I was never a fan of regular Spider Wire.
I don't use much braid. I've got 55# Samurai on one reel. Expensive. Smaller diameter than normal because it breaks closer to its rating than most. Soft. 30# Fireline on a spinning reel that hasn't seen much use. Harder line. Fingers pinching line as I reeled it on were dark green from the color flaking off. Have straightened out a couple jig hooks with it. 40# Original PP on a casting reel. Re-spooled with it while in Florida after pulling off some old Sufix Performace. Very noisy. 20# Tuf-Line Supercast on one reel. No opinion on this line. So far I haven't been able to work up any love for the reel it is on so it hardly ever gets used. Spiderwire (30# I think) has been okay. No complaints. 10# Sufix 832 Ghost on a spinning and 30# on a baitcast reel. I like it. Especially the 30# on the baitcast reel. My spinning reels seldom get used.
Personally I think Sufix Performance Is a very good low cost braid. Line was almost white when I pulled it off my STX after several years of limited use. Money no object I'd probably go with Samurai. I think it is mostly going to come down to personal preference. Hard to buy a bad braid.
I have been VERY impressed with Tuf-Line Tournament 8
http://www.tuf-line.com/products_TUF-Lines_26.html
On 11/24/2015 at 10:36 PM, roadwarrior said:I have been VERY impressed with Tuf-Line Tournament 8
http://www.tuf-line.com/products_TUF-Lines_26.html
On 11/24/2015 at 10:36 PM, roadwarrior said:I have been VERY impressed with Tuf-Line Tournament 8
http://www.tuf-line.com/products_TUF-Lines_26.html
Would 15 lb be too light for baitcasters? I like lighter line. Normally the lowest I go is 20lb but if the 8 layers and coating restricts digging in I am wondering If I could make 15lb work???? I find I cast lighter braid further than heavier braids but the all too often backash from digging in is a pain in the rear end.
On 11/25/2015 at 8:11 AM, Bass2124 said:Would 15 lb be too light for baitcasters? I like lighter line. Normally the lowest I go is 20lb but if the 8 layers and coating restricts digging in I am wondering If I could make 15lb work???? I find I cast lighter braid further than heavier braids but the all too often backash from digging in is a pain in the rear end.
Not roadwarrior. Nor do I have anywhere near his experience or knowledge. When I was researching braid for a baitcast reel, the popular consensus was to not use lighter than 40# due to the possibility of digging in. Since then I have read posts from people saying they fish 15# braid on a baitcast reel with no problem. My Alphas F came with 30# 832 Ghost. First thing that had to be done was make as long a cast as possible, and pull out more line. Repeat. That was because the line had dug in. I fished it in Florida this year. Probably fished 9 of the 14 days we were there, and we usually spent 8-12 hours a day on the water. This reel got used a lot. Line didn't dig in for me, but no large fish were caught. I did catch some stubborn lily pads. Line didn't dig in then either.
What lures and what rod will you be using with it? Up until this year I took my STX with 40# Sufix Performance with me whenever visiting Florida. I'd guess that the longest casts I've ever made were done with this reel and line on a 7' MHF Jupiter rod and a 3/4 oz. spoon.
On 11/25/2015 at 10:31 AM, new2BC4bass said:Not roadwarrior. Nor do I have anywhere near his experience or knowledge. When I was researching braid for a baitcast reel, the popular consensus was to not use lighter than 40# due to the possibility of digging in. Since then I have read posts from people saying they fish 15# braid on a baitcast reel with no problem. My Alphas F came with 30# 832 Ghost. First thing that had to be done was make as long a cast as possible, and pull out more line. Repeat. That was because the line had dug in. I fished it in Florida this year. Probably fished 9 of the 14 days we were there, and we usually spent 8-12 hours a day on the water. This reel got used a lot. Line didn't dig in for me, but no large fish were caught. I did catch some stubborn lily pads. Line didn't dig in then either.
What lures and what rod will you be using with it? Up until this year I took my STX with 40# Sufix Performance with me whenever visiting Florida. I'd guess that the longest casts I've ever made were done with this reel and line on a 7' MHF Jupiter rod and a 3/4 oz. spoon.
Cranks and jerkbaits. I also throw alot of texes rigged lizards and top water plugs.
I use power pro 20b and the only time iv'e had it dig in was when I didn't put on correctly ....
Power pro 40 here. 30 too thin, 50 too fat
Suffix 832
Just reiterating what others have said: Regular PP or Suffix 883 in 30# or greater.
On 11/25/2015 at 8:11 AM, Bass2124 said:Would 15 lb be too light for baitcasters? I like lighter line. Normally the lowest I go is 20lb but if the 8 layers and coating restricts digging in I am wondering If I could make 15lb work???? I find I cast lighter braid further than heavier braids but the all too often backash from digging in is a pain in the rear end.
I started out fishing 15lb braid on baitcasters and didn't have any issues with digging in (original PP). It has to be put on correctly. Being it was 15lb most of the reel is filled with 12lb mono backing which was on there before and then spooled with the braid. 100yrds of braid is plenty and you won't have any issues with it digging in as long as the backing/mono behind the braid is tight and the braid is spooled on tightly. Most won't fish lighter braid due to handling issues as most wouldn't fish 4lb on a baitcaster where I grew up fishing 6lb on mine as a teen so it wasn't a big deal, 10lb was heavy mono for me.
I use only 20lb braid and have not had any issues with it , I find it handles well and is strong ....
Used suffix and spider wire and I love using power pro can't say any thing bad about it
I have had good experiences with both Suffix and Power pro. I have used both the cheaper stuff and their higher priced stuff and it all seems to work pretty well
Here's another option to consider if you want to try a braided line that sinks - Sufix Gravity2. 12-15 lb test is similar in diameter to the regular Sufix 832 at 30-40 lb. I picked some up this Fall in 12 lb and only used it a couple times but seemed to work well enough. Time will tell if it holds up as well as regular 832 over time. But if you want some sink... may be another option to consider..