Looking for some reviews/shootouts between the 2 brands from non-fanboys lol. If anyone has any links please post. Thanks in advance!
This isnt going to end well, lol.
TackleTour does reviews, but I can't think of any shootouts like you're asking for.
its user preference. Guys who fish shimano love them, and guys who fish Abus love them. Just depends what you want to spend and what feels better on your selected rod. Or you can do what i did, i bought a Curado and a Revo S. Then make your own conclusion. Whatever one you dont like, you can sell.
after fishing a few abu's i never cared for them. after fishing a few shimano's, i never cared for them (besides my cardiff 400). ive moved on to lew's to test their product, and so far so good.
Pretty much hands down it seems like the Curado is the biggest selling reel in FW history, with that said your also paying for the name. Abus similiar reels have twice as many bearings and bells and whistles. Would be interesting to see how they compete. Also guys who do shootouts usually go way more in detail then the average angler.
As far as I'm concerned only the fish matters, I've caught great ones with all brands.
On 12/2/2012 at 12:28 AM, SirSnookalot said:As far as I'm concerned only the fish matters, I've caught great ones with all brands.
But you look better doing it with an Abu. LOL, sorry, i had to say it.
Bearing numbers dont do much, its that they are placed where they count. Cent brakes, and a solid foundation is all you need.On 12/2/2012 at 12:06 AM, dam0007 said:Pretty much hands down it seems like the Curado is the biggest selling reel in FW history, with that said your also paying for the name. Abus similiar reels have twice as many bearings and bells and whistles. Would be interesting to see how they compete. Also guys who do shootouts usually go way more in detail then the average angler.
Unless you are a member of a different posse, vs. threads are usually all bias.
Being a the Daiwa Guy that I am, I will say I prefer the Curado E to the Revo S and SX, but i'll take an STX over an E anyday. (Performance wise, not reflecting price tag,)
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Lol wow I could only get through about 1 minute of that video. Sounds like a 5th grader who can't even read the label on the boxes
On 12/2/2012 at 8:50 AM, central.PA.bass said:Lol wow I could only get through about 1 minute of that video. Sounds like a 5th grader who can't even read the label on the boxes
Lol yup. As soon as I heard his voice I ended the video.
Someone post link of video above, nothings showing from my phone and my cpu is packed (moving).
@ Bassclary - I will have a zillion by summer! That reel feels like a tank. Love it.
In general I have nothing against any reel brand except I think Okuma is complete s#!t. Wasn't trying to start a flame war either just want to see professional comparisons between these 2 brands.
Okumas customer service is bar none. I can't say that about any other brand.
Flip a coin. I have both and I have no issues with either brand. You can't go wrong. I don't have any of the newer Revos, my revos are all at least a couple years old, and my Curados and Citicas are E series. I'll replace them with newer stuff when they wear out, that could take awhile, and I fish all the time.
Only "unbiased" shootouts I've ever seen are for flyfishing rods. Not gonna happen with Shimano/Abu on a bass forum. I've purchased and been pleased with Abu's mid-level rods/reels but look to Shimano for my higher end reels due to what I perceive is a better bang for my buck.
Don't overlook the Pfleugers, especially the Patriarchs. It's an amazing reel for the price. I had a friend lend me a couple of Revos to try out. I tried them and sent them back to him.
As long as LMGambler stays off this thread it should be a good clean discussion LOL.
On 12/2/2012 at 12:57 PM, Long Mike said:Don't overlook the Pfleugers, especially the Patriarchs. It's an amazing reel for the price. I had a friend lend me a couple of Revos to try out. I tried them and sent them back to him.
Thats wierd, a Patriarch and Revo are a very similar reel, almost identical i believe. Im no expert, but from my understanding everything is the same except for finish.
Tackletour did a cranking reel shootout I believe: The Revo Winch vs the Curado E5 (vs a Daiwa vs a Quantum)...
On 12/2/2012 at 11:59 AM, BradH said:Flip a coin. I have both and I have no issues with either brand. You can't go wrong. I don't have any of the newer Revos, my revos are all at least a couple years old, and my Curados and Citicas are E series. I'll replace them with newer stuff when they wear out, that could take awhile, and I fish all the time.
I too have experience with both....Revo S, SX, SC, and Winch and Shimano Citica 200E7 as well as Curado E5 and E7....I prefer the shimano reels BUT I had absolutely no problems with any of the Revos.
On 12/2/2012 at 9:16 PM, RyneB said:Thats wierd, a Patriarch and Revo are a very similar reel, almost identical i believe. Im no expert, but from my understanding everything is the same except for finish.
Makes sense, they are both pure fishing brands. Lol guess they would share or use similar designs. Probably made in the same factory, saves the mother company $$ that way, lets just hope their fire extinguishers work.
On 12/2/2012 at 10:10 PM, deep said:Tackletour did a cranking reel shootout I believe: The Revo Winch vs the Curado E5 (vs a Daiwa vs a Quantum)...
You are correct! The curado e and Abu winch both were towards the top in the different categories evaluated.
If you are on the fence maybe buy both brands of reel and perform your own evaluation. After you feel like you have identified the better reel you can sell the other. I am doing a similar test but with high end floro lines this spring. However I wont be selling the line(s) I dislike.
Go back through this section as far as you like. I suspect the first 100 pages will have all the information you are
looking for, but there are more! Reel comparisons are a huge part of this forum, specifically in this section. I'm
sure we will have another food fight next week.
As a general response, most of today's brands are very close in initial use at all pricing points. Arguments usually
are about features, components and long-term durability. Having said that, it still boils down to personal experience
with different brands and preference.
Lmao I'm prob more of a die hard Shimano fan than LMG.
There's like 5 reels I feel I must own. Kinda broke now with christmas here but next year definitely want to experiment.
Zillion
Revo Premier
Core
Ghost
Lews Super speed or speed spool whatever.
I don't alienate brands unless I've had utterly horendous experiences with them. Such as GM, Best Buy, Microsoft lol etc lol lol
I have Shimanos, Lews, Abu, Bass Pro, and Pfluegar. All of my reels are the mid-range, workhorse reels (Curado, speed spool, Revo S, Pro Qualifier, and Supreme). In my experience if you buy a quality reel and you take good care of it and get it serviced regularly they all work fine.
On 12/2/2012 at 9:16 PM, RyneB said:Thats wierd, a Patriarch and Revo are a very similar reel, almost identical i believe. Im no expert, but from my understanding everything is the same except for finish.
You're right, same basic reels. But it depends on the model. He could be comparing a Revo S, for example, to the Patriarch. The Patriarch is equivalent to the STX. Or was, at least. Not sure if the Pflueger's got the same Gen3 updates as their kissing cousins did.
Here we go again. Can't we all just get along ?
On 12/2/2012 at 12:06 AM, dam0007 said:Abus similiar reels have twice as many bearings and bells and whistles. Would be interesting to see how they compete. Also guys who do shootouts usually go way more in detail then the average angler.
The Abus add four bearings in the knobs, a third spool bearing and a pinion stabilizing bearing. These have no net effect on casting distance, and are a simple means to add smoothness, but they add weight. Shimano takes a slightly different route by placing just what bearings are needed and save weight, but add frame material to maintain alignment. The net effect is the same - Ford vs. Chevy.
Each of the big 4 (Daiwa/Shimano/ABU/Quantum) have positive design features of their own. At the end of the day only you can decide what you like best.
You may also want to look into Pinnacle's tournament class reels. I've heard very good reviews about them, especially the optimus XLT.
I have one of their lower end baitcasters (matrix) and don't have anything bad to say about it. It's smooth casting and I don't have any problems with lighter baits but it doesn't have the power of my Abu C3 4600.
Just some food for thought...
I have a Pinnacle combination and love it!
http://www.bassresource.com/fishing_lures/pinnacle-optimus-xlt-dhc-review.html