Abu Garcia New Revo Series 2024
George King reply :
Hey I am looking for a new reel and saw the Abu Garcia Revo series. I was wondering which reel performed better and would last longer between the Revo S, SX, and STX.
Thanks!
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
Each model is built on the same platform. The only differences are in features, primarily braking and the latter 2 have the full floating spool. Personally, I like centrifugal brakes. The SX is mag only, The S is Cent. only and the STX is dual. Whether or not the features justify the price differences is strictly user preference.
TNBassin' reply :
I had the S, SX, and STX and the STX was the best of the bunch. Had the least problems out of that one too.
Blues19 reply :
I have an S and I love it. I have heard people who have the SX love it. I think if you just need to go with the one you can afford. All nice reels
Brackish Angler 228 reply :
Stay away from the SX. I have one and the mag brakes are terrible on it. I've heard they're personal preference, I just can't believe it. Nothing wrong with Abu, they just dont have good enough mag brakes to stand-alone.
If you don't have the money for a new STX right now but you don't want an S, here's a few killer deals:
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/119559-5-generation-3-revos-for-sale/
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/119600-fs-revo-premier-gen-3-right-handed-711-and-a-black-pixy-spool/
Some Premiers there if you DO have some bread to shed.
MarkH024 reply :
Look at a Citica or Curado as an alternative. Set it and forget it brakes. You will be pleased, I promise. If your budget allows then definitely a Chronarch.
There are a lot of complaint s on this forum regarding newer abu reels. Just an observation.
dodgeguy reply :
i have no problem with my mgx.
DINK WHISPERER reply :
On 6/12/2013 at 9:37 AM, MarkH024 said:Look at a Citica or Curado as an alternative. Set it and forget it brakes. You will be pleased, I promise. If your budget allows then definitely a Chronarch.
There are a lot of complaint s on this forum regarding newer abu reels. Just an observation.
Well who would have thought that was coming^… i currently own all three and they are all great reels. I do prefer the STX over all others though. Nothing wrong with the SX if you know what your doing with a bc. The S i got as a combo with a Veritas rod, for matching purposes. You really can't go wrong with the Revo line imo.
ww2farmer reply :
I have not had a Revo since the first generation reels. And I had all three. I used the S for any thing that required "casting" like spinnerbaits, cranks, frogs, etc...and the SX and STX for pitching, and flipping. The mag breaks were fine for that, but I preferred the cent. breaks on the S for casting. If I were to buy another Revo, I would do it the same way, except the STX now has the dual breaks ( I have never had a reel with those)
MarkH024 reply :
I didn't say they were bad or good by my own experience. Maybe it's inexperienced fishermen using them. All I know is between the rods and reels there are far too many complaints in yhis community. I wasn't turning this into the shimano vs everything. Simply offering an alternative that rarely ever has any negative reviews.On 6/12/2013 at 10:25 AM, DINK WHISPERER said:Well who would have thought that was coming^… i currently own all three and they are all great reels. I do prefer the STX over all others though. Nothing wrong with the SX if you know what your doing with a bc. The S i got as a combo with a Veritas rod, for matching purposes. You really can't go wrong with the Revo line imo.
MrSwimJig reply :
I have 4 Gen 3 STX reels and am picking up my 5th this weekend. I have not had a single problem with any of my STX reels, knock on wood.
All of my STX reels have been purchased in the last 2 months from my local sporting goods store.
I take my reels completely apart and clean and lube them before they ever see any use. Thanks to DVT I followed his instructions for cleaning and lubing and they have just performed.
Dramer77 reply :
On 6/12/2013 at 7:35 PM, Mr Swim Jig said:I have 4 Gen 3 STX reels and am picking up my 5th this weekend. I have not had a single problem with any of my STX reels, knock on wood.
All of my STX reels have been purchased in the last 2 months from my local sporting goods store.
I take my reels completely apart and clean and lube them before they ever see any use. Thanks to DVT I followed his instructions for cleaning and lubing and they have just performed.
got a link to those.. i have a new stx and wouldnt mind doing that
MrSwimJig reply :
On 6/12/2013 at 11:30 PM, Dramer77 said:got a link to those.. i have a new stx and wouldnt mind doing that
It was done via PM and I will put it all together and send it to you via PM.
Chris at Tech reply :
On 6/13/2013 at 1:12 AM, Mr Swim Jig said:It was done via PM and I will put it all together and send it to you via PM.
If it's not too much trouble, can you forward that info over to me as well?
harmon reply :
Get the REVO STX! Most all reels regardless of brand are smooth and cast a mile these days. It's about how they perform when the fish is on the other end. A lot of people get wrapped up into how a reel feels, then how it truly performs when you have a fish on the end, REVO all the way...
Sodus Bay Scooter reply :
I have the gen 3 s and sx and haven't had any problems. Also as far as the brakes go on the sx, I think they are absolutely awesome. I don't know why so many people are having problems.
If you set your spool tension properly to your bait and backlash then you increase the mag brake and cast again and repeat until it doesn't backlash, simple! I don't see what the problem is.
new2BC4bass reply :
On 6/13/2013 at 2:44 AM, Bass Menace said:I have the gen 3 s and sx and haven't had any problems. Also as far as the brakes go on the sx, I think they are absolutely awesome. I don't know why so many people are having problems.
If you set your spool tension properly to your bait and backlash then you increase the mag brake and cast again and repeat until it doesn't backlash, simple! I don't see what the problem is.
Maybe they are too macho to turn the mag brakes up. Most of my Daiwas run at 7 with enough spool tension to remove side-to-side play...for all lure weights. Run my Gen 1 STX-L (mag only) the same way.
BassinLou reply :
I have both the G3, S and STX and I have zero complaints. I will advise you however if you get the S, once you start fishing with it keep a close eye on the faceplate screw located on the right side of the reel. If not screwed tightly, it will loosen and cause your spool to lock during your cast. Not a big deal, just be aware of it.
Sodus Bay Scooter reply :
On 6/13/2013 at 3:20 AM, new2BC4bass said:Maybe they are too macho to turn the mag brakes up. Most of my Daiwas run at 7 with enough spool tension to remove side-to-side play...for all lure weights. Run my Gen 1 STX-L (mag only) the same way.
That's ironic because 7 is about what I run the sx at AND my pq when only using mags on it.
rockchalk06 reply :
On 6/13/2013 at 2:35 AM, harmon said:Get the REVO STX! Most all reels regardless of brand are smooth and cast a mile these days. It's about how they perform when the fish is on the other end. A lot of people get wrapped up into how a reel feels, then how it truly performs when you have a fish on the end, REVO all the way...
That's makes about as much sense as whiping your ass before you take a dump. If a reel feels horrible, makes god awful sounds and has minor issues with parts, one would venture to guess that it's NOT going to perform well when you catch said fish.
M-D reply :
On 6/13/2013 at 1:33 AM, Chris at Tech said:If it's not too much trouble, can you forward that info over to me as well?
+2 if you can, THANKS!
BassinB reply :
I've got a few of the SX's and love them all. I beat the hell out of them too without any issues.
TNBassin' reply :
The GEN 3 SX is leaps and bounds easier to dial in than the GEN 2 was.
lmbfisherman reply :
On 6/12/2013 at 10:25 AM, DINK WHISPERER said:Well who would have thought that was coming^… i currently own all three and they are all great reels. I do prefer the STX over all others though. Nothing wrong with the SX if you know what your doing with a bc. The S i got as a combo with a Veritas rod, for matching purposes. You really can't go wrong with the Revo line imo.
He didn't say, SHIMANO RULEZ! It seemed like a genuine statement and honestly even though he asked about the Abu models, his opening statement could be interpreted as he's still making a decision. Mark was making a recommendation is all.
GeorgiaBassBros reply :
Absolutely love my s but it can be tempermental at times. it seems like it has a place where you can push the thumb bar down far enough to cast and reel but it never truely engages the reel. Kind of odd but i still love the reel
GoneFishi'n reply :
i have never had any problems with my 3rd gen SX. Did you have an actual problem, if so what was it? I have caught some giants with this reel and no problems. The drag is 100% consistent and casts a mile.On 6/12/2013 at 4:21 AM, Brackish Angler 228 said:Stay away from the SX. I have one and the mag brakes are terrible on it. I've heard they're personal preference, I just can't believe it. Nothing wrong with Abu, they just dont have good enough mag brakes to stand-alone.
If you don't have the money for a new STX right now but you don't want an S, here's a few killer deals:
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/119559-5-generation-3-revos-for-sale/
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/119600-fs-revo-premier-gen-3-right-handed-711-and-a-black-pixy-spool/
Some Premiers there if you DO have some bread to shed.
Brackish Angler 228 reply :
On 6/13/2013 at 5:40 PM, GoneFishi said:i have never had any problems with my 3rd gen SX. Did you have an actual problem, if so what was it? I have caught some giants with this reel and no problems. The drag is 100% consistent and casts a mile.
The entire braking system is the problem. It has nothing to do with catching fish; I've caught a lot of fish on mine too with no problems. Magnetic brakes (the type on the SX) by themselves have a linear braking curve. Meaning the speed of the spool is directly proportional to the braking force (cast control is constant) throughout the cast. Adjusting the mag brakes has no effect on the beginning of the cast vs the middle of the cast vs the end. This is bad because the bait is accelerating at the beginning of the cast, then stops accelerating through the middle and end of the cast. Magnetic brakes, having a linear braking curve, don't address the initial acceleration. So the countermeasures that are taken are either (or both) tightening the cast control or letting your thumb ride heavier on the spool than it would with a centrifugal brake (alone like the S or assisting like the STX). The consequence of both countermeasures are a loss in overall casting distance. Since the cast control is constant throughout the cast, attempting to adjust it to ONLY control initial spool speed will not work and will slow the spool speed throughout the entire cast.
You can see here how adjusting the mag brake does nothing to address acceleration of the spool.
A centrifugal braking system does not have a linear braking curve. At the beginning of the cast it slows the spool to counteract the acceleration of the bait, then when the spool needs no braking (because its speed now matches the speed of the bait), the brakes don't affect the spool.
Here's a graph of the braking curves:
Flukeman reply :
Here is the problem with people when they buy reels. Most people look at price point and instantly compare that to quality and forget about mechanics. The Revo line is just like a bag of golf clubs, some people can drive, some pitch, some putt, and some can do it all. Us old guys who grew up with baitcasters with no brakes learned to excel with our thumbs. I am a thumber, little to no brake and my thumb has total control. On windy days I turn the brake up a couple clicks. The SX is perfect for a guy with my skill set. The other end of the spectrum is a guy who wants a reel that has dual braking and can be set to be practically automatic with very little human input. It is all about trade offs, downside is you are never going to cast as far as I am. The upside is you do not have to pay as much attention to the casting detail as I would have too, especially on those windy days.
Just like that golfer who can't use that 9 iron the best, if you are going to buy a reel that does not fit your mechanics, then you need to practice more. Or buy a reel that fits your style of fishing better.
Of course no one wants to admit that and most people buy according to what they can afford rather than by what the mechanics of the equipment is. Just my humble opinion and what I have observed fishing tournaments with different people over the years.
GoneFishi'n reply :
So are you saying that you weren't able to get good casting? I'm sorry if I sound dumb(which I probably do) but did you have a problem with the reel. Like was your issue with the casting? I find if I guide the cast with my thumb there is no issue at all.On 6/13/2013 at 7:59 PM, Brackish Angler 228 said:The entire braking system is the problem. It has nothing to do with catching fish; I've caught a lot of fish on mine too with no problems. Magnetic brakes (the type on the SX) by themselves have a linear braking curve. Meaning the speed of the spool is directly proportional to the braking force (cast control is constant) throughout the cast. Adjusting the mag brakes has no effect on the beginning of the cast vs the middle of the cast vs the end. This is bad because the bait is accelerating at the beginning of the cast, then stops accelerating through the middle and end of the cast. Magnetic brakes, having a linear braking curve, don't address the initial acceleration. So the countermeasures that are taken are either (or both) tightening the cast control or letting your thumb ride heavier on the spool than it would with a centrifugal brake (alone like the S or assisting like the STX). The consequence of both countermeasures are a loss in overall casting distance. Since the cast control is constant throughout the cast, attempting to adjust it to ONLY control initial spool speed will not work and will slow the spool speed throughout the entire cast.
You can see here how adjusting the mag brake does nothing to address acceleration of the spool.
A centrifugal braking system does not have a linear braking curve. At the beginning of the cast it slows the spool to counteract the acceleration of the bait, then when the spool needs no braking (because its speed now matches the speed of the bait), the brakes don't affect the spool.
Here's a graph of the braking curves:
harmon reply :
On 6/13/2013 at 6:36 AM, rockchalk06 said:That's makes about as much sense as whiping your ass before you take a dump. If a reel feels horrible, makes god awful sounds and has minor issues with parts, one would venture to guess that it's NOT going to perform well when you catch said fish.
You got it backwards, If I pick up a reel and it grinding than yes, it is crap. Most of the good reels you pick up in a store and turn are smooth, and most of them cast a mile. No one seems to care how it feels with a fish on the end. I don't pick up many new reels that are grinding and noisy, but I only pick up quality reels.
jeb2 reply :
On 6/13/2013 at 7:59 PM, Brackish Angler 228 said:The entire braking system is the problem. It has nothing to do with catching fish; I've caught a lot of fish on mine too with no problems. Magnetic brakes (the type on the SX) by themselves have a linear braking curve. Meaning the speed of the spool is directly proportional to the braking force (cast control is constant) throughout the cast. Adjusting the mag brakes has no effect on the beginning of the cast vs the middle of the cast vs the end. This is bad because the bait is accelerating at the beginning of the cast, then stops accelerating through the middle and end of the cast. Magnetic brakes, having a linear braking curve, don't address the initial acceleration. So the countermeasures that are taken are either (or both) tightening the cast control or letting your thumb ride heavier on the spool than it would with a centrifugal brake (alone like the S or assisting like the STX). The consequence of both countermeasures are a loss in overall casting distance. Since the cast control is constant throughout the cast, attempting to adjust it to ONLY control initial spool speed will not work and will slow the spool speed throughout the entire cast.
You can see here how adjusting the mag brake does nothing to address acceleration of the spool.
A centrifugal braking system does not have a linear braking curve. At the beginning of the cast it slows the spool to counteract the acceleration of the bait, then when the spool needs no braking (because its speed now matches the speed of the bait), the brakes don't affect the spool.
The question remains about if you've actually owned and had a problem with the Gen3 SX?
I own a Gen3 STX. Been a pretty good reel so far, especially at it's price point. Maybe not quite as smooth as my 4 Gen2 Premier's, but very close. I also had a Gen1 SX and own a Gen2 SX. The Gen1 SX's did indeed have too little braking force, to the point that Abu replaced mine with a Gen2 version on what amounted to a word of mouth recall. It has a couple more magnets compared to the Gen1, and does a better job.
Brackish Angler 228 reply :
On 6/13/2013 at 10:04 PM, Flukeman said:Here is the problem with people when they buy reels. Most people look at price point and instantly compare that to quality and forget about mechanics. The Revo line is just like a bag of golf clubs, some people can drive, some pitch, some putt, and some can do it all. Us old guys who grew up with baitcasters with no brakes learned to excel with our thumbs. I am a thumber, little to no brake and my thumb has total control. On windy days I turn the brake up a couple clicks. The SX is perfect for a guy with my skill set. The other end of the spectrum is a guy who wants a reel that has dual braking and can be set to be practically automatic with very little human input. It is all about trade offs, downside is you are never going to cast as far as I am. The upside is you do not have to pay as much attention to the casting detail as I would have too, especially on those windy days.
Just like that golfer who can't use that 9 iron the best, if you are going to buy a reel that does not fit your mechanics, then you need to practice more. Or buy a reel that fits your style of fishing better.
Of course no one wants to admit that and most people buy according to what they can afford rather than by what the mechanics of the equipment is. Just my humble opinion and what I have observed fishing tournaments with different people over the years.
Just out of curiosity, could you give me an example of one of those old reels without brakes? I'm a nerd about reel mechanics old and new.
Brackish Angler 228 reply :
On 6/14/2013 at 5:55 PM, jeb2 said:The question remains about if you've actually owned and had a problem with the Gen3 SX?
I own a Gen3 STX. Been a pretty good reel so far, especially at it's price point. Maybe not quite as smooth as my 4 Gen2 Premier's, but very close. I also had a Gen1 SX and own a Gen2 SX. The Gen1 SX's did indeed have too little braking force, to the point that Abu replaced mine with a Gen2 version on what amounted to a word of mouth recall. It has a couple more magnets compared to the Gen1, and does a better job.
Yes, I own one and had problems. I explained what the problem is and why it happens.
ULG reply :
If you dont have the money for the stx, i would say go with sx, the s only if u have to, that line only gets better as the number of letters go up! lol or the price! but really, try the sx first is my advice, and the other posters made good points, try a curado or a citica. both great reels! im not pluggin either one cz im honestly torn between the 2, i have the whole lineup of revos and even go back to gen 1, i still have a couple in the staring lineup, gen 2s and gen 3s right there beside them, iv got some curado b's, dpvs, e and g series on the deck too, they are both quality products and lets be honest and say its all a preferrence issue at some point. i would reccomend toying with a revo on the rod u will be using, the gear box from wha ppl say doesnt sit right with thier preference, i myself have long fingers and have not a problem with the gear box being moved form the previous gen 2, but that is something to think about, all in all my best advice is to play with reels at a store if possible, alot of the associates are usually very helpful, ask if u can put the reel on a rod similiar to the rod u will be using(diff rods have various reel seats that change the feel depending on how u hold you reel) to see what if it feels like and pick the best reel that fits you and go from there. hope this was helpful, and just wanted to say thanks for having on this forum and happy to b here!
BP10 reply :
this might be off topic a little bit but i love my abu it was a hand me down from my grandpa before he passed n works likes it brand new still and i think it was purchassed in the early 80s its a abu-garcia ambassaduer 521 plus no problems at allll
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