Re-powering the Lund 1875 Pro-V Bass Boat 2025
A-Jay reply :
With Mercury Marine's latest and most recent introduction of the Pro XS line, I have started the leg work & process to Re-powering my Lund 1875 Pro -V Bass. Still in the earliest stages but still pretty exciting & appears very promising.
When I was initially rigging out this boat, I wanted an XS. However the required 25 inch shaft was not offered in the Pro XS line at 200 HP.
With this latest line, it is. The plan is to trade in the current 2016 200 HP Optimax and the non-digital controls / gauges towards the New Pro XS and the required new digital controls / gauges.
Spec for the 200 HP look like this: Looks like I'm ditching the Two Stroke . . .
SPECIFICATIONS - 200
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| Compatible with SmartCraft digital technology |
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| Shaft length |
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| Dry weight *Lightest model available |
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Time line looks like Mid-August perhaps but it's a little early to know for sure.
There may also be some 'prop testing' required as this newest motor has not yet been mounted on a Pro-V Bass.
So dialing in the right screw size & pitch for optimum performance might take some time to get just right.
More to follow.
A-Jay
https://www.mercurymarine.com/en/us/engines/outboard/pro-xs/
jbmaine reply :
A-Jay, that almost looks darn right evil. In my mind I've already started calling it " DARTH MOTOR ".
flyfisher reply :
So forgive my ignorance here as i am a fisherman of the paddling variety but do you just trade in your old motor like you would a car and pay the difference or whatever?
NHBull reply :
Go big or go home ????
Tim Kelly reply :
Nice choice AJ. The 200hp motors have been a bit of a tough choice until now, especially on Brunswick boats where the choices are limited. The new V8s look very interesting. How does the weight compare to your Opti? The V6 200 is another interesting new choice. Famine to feast!
A-Jay reply :
On 5/27/2018 at 3:50 AM, flyfisher said:So forgive my ignorance here as i am a fisherman of the paddling variety but do you just trade in your old motor like you would a car and pay the difference or whatever?
Yes.
A-Jay
On 5/27/2018 at 4:31 AM, Tim Kelly said:Nice choice AJ. The 200hp motors have been a bit of a tough choice until now, especially on Brunswick boats where the choices are limited. The new V8s look very interesting. How does the weight compare to your Opti? The V6 200 is another interesting new choice. Famine to feast!
Thanks
Specs indicate the 2 motors are very close or perhaps even the same at 505 lbs.
That is at Least 100 lbs lighter than the same size Verado and the primary reason why I didn't go that way in the first place.
A-Jay
Further North reply :
Cool project.
I'm not sure that I'd bother to upgrade a motor that is as new as yours is, but I can see why you're doing it. I'd like the the switch from 2 stroke to 4 stroke.
If you had to summarize your prime motivations, what might they be?
slonezp reply :
There is no substitute for cubic inches. 
Further North reply :
On 5/27/2018 at 8:16 AM, slonezp said:There is no substitute for cubic inches.
Sure there is: Cubic dollars. ????
I believe that's the way Mr. Shelby said it...
Log Catcher reply :
Now we know who has the big money on the forum. If had a boat big enough to do that I would never get out of debt.
Cory Doras reply :
Suzuki, best motors I've ever owned. And I have had a lot of boats and all brands. Even submerged on in salt water.
A-Jay reply :
On 5/27/2018 at 7:24 AM, Further North said:Cool project.
I'm not sure that I'd bother to upgrade a motor that is as new as yours is, but I can see why you're doing it. I'd like the the switch from 2 stroke to 4 stroke.
If you had to summarize your prime motivations, what might they be?
I'm not looking at it as a bother; more of an adventure & learning experience.
There's a few motivating factors. While I may not categorize any singular deal as primary, collectively they're sufficient to stimulate change.
A V-8 4-stroke XS, that weighs the same as a 2-stroke seems long over due.
The advertised all around performance improvements as well as the redesigned size & shape of the unit is appealing to me.
I want to & I can.
A-Jay
S Hovanec reply :
For the first time ever, Merc is on my radar with these V8 offerings. I'm seriously considering the new 250 Verado when I upgrade boats in a few years. Actually i'm hoping they reconfigure the 2075 Tyee to take a 300 just like the 2075 Pro-V.
A-Jay reply :
On 5/27/2018 at 9:41 AM, Log Catcher said:Now we know who has the big money on the forum. If had a boat big enough to do that I would never get out of debt.
As a retired Enlisted man, I'm certainly grateful for my situation.
I earned it.
Big Money may be a relative term.
Living frugally and prioritizing larger purchases helps.
A-Jay
iabass8 reply :
Local club guy just got a brand new lund pro v 2075 /w the new 250 merc 4 stroke on the back. It's amazing.
Further North reply :
On 5/27/2018 at 7:30 PM, A-Jay said:I'm not looking at it as a bother; more of an adventure & learning experience.
An unfortunate choice of words on my part - of course you would, I would also. ????
On 5/27/2018 at 7:30 PM, A-Jay said:There's a few motivating factors. While I may not categorize any singular deal as primary, collectively they're sufficient to stimulate change.
A V-8 4-stroke XS, that weighs the same as a 2-stroke seems long over due.
The advertised all around performance improvements as well as the redesigned size & shape of the unit is appealing to me.
Good stuff all of it; and well considered. I'd skimmed the specs before and hadn't realized it was a small displacement, light weight V-8. That baby's gonna purr...except when it doesn't...????
On 5/27/2018 at 7:30 PM, A-Jay said:I want to & I can.
I, of course, like this one best of all!
I may, or may not have used, "Because I can!" as a reason for doing some things now and then...it feels pretty good!
On 5/27/2018 at 7:45 PM, A-Jay said:As a retired Enlisted man, I'm certainly grateful for my situation.
I earned it.
Big Money may be a relative term.
Living frugally and prioritizing larger purchases helps.
A-Jay
It's amazing what the long term result of making good choices is.
Log Catcher reply :
On 5/27/2018 at 7:45 PM, A-Jay said:As a retired Enlisted man, I'm certainly grateful for my situation.
I earned it.
Big Money may be a relative term.
Living frugally and prioritizing larger purchases helps.
A-Jay
Thank you for your service and I hope every thing works out okay with this. If what I said offended you I apologize as that was not my intent. I was just trying to be funny about it.
Way north bass guy reply :
On 5/27/2018 at 5:24 PM, Cory Doras said:Suzuki, best motors I've ever owned. And I have had a lot of boats and all brands. Even submerged on in salt water.
I second that. I’ve owned Yamaha’s, Mercury ( same exact motor that’s on A-Jays boat right now, and now a Suzuki on my newest boat. They’re all good, but the Zuk is the finest running, easiest on fuel engine I’ve ever owned. I’m sure the new Merc will be a great option as well, I can’t see myself ever owning another 2-stroke again.
A-Jay reply :
On 5/28/2018 at 2:21 AM, Log Catcher said:Thank you for your service and I hope every thing works out okay with this. If what I said offended you I apologize as that was not my intent. I was just trying to be funny about it.
It's all good.
I was simply passing on my perspective.
A-Jay
ww2farmer reply :
I am very interested in seeing how this process works out for you. As I am going to do (on a smaller scale) the same thing.
I was just going to buy a whole new rig, but life happened and I needed a new (to me) truck. But I still have the means to re-power the boat. And it's a worthy cause. My boat is a 2007, still in great shape, it's just the 25hp on her is getting tired from 11 years of use. I wanna go with a 40hp 4 stroke, boat is rated for a 50, but the cowling on the 50 is too tall to fit under some "secret" spots I go. Problem is, every dealer around here is giving me the run around and wants to push a new boat on me. It doesn't seem to matter to them that I have cash in hand and want to buy.
A-Jay reply :
On 5/28/2018 at 5:56 AM, ww2farmer said:I am very interested in seeing how this process works out for you. As I am going to do (on a smaller scale) the same thing.
I was just going to buy a whole new rig, but life happened and I needed a new (to me) truck. But I still have the means to re-power the boat. And it's a worthy cause. My boat is a 2007, still in great shape, it's just the 25hp on her is getting tired from 11 years of use. I wanna go with a 40hp 4 stroke, boat is rated for a 50, but the cowling on the 50 is too tall to fit under some "secret" spots I go. Problem is, every dealer around here is giving me the run around and wants to push a new boat on me. It doesn't seem to matter to them that I have cash in hand and want to buy.
That is a little strange ~
And those spots must be pretty tight when a few inches makes all the difference.
Perhaps try 'flooding' your bilge to drop your rig a bit and then pump her out once you get through.
Or just wait for low tide . . .
A-Jay
A-Jay reply :
Just returned from my Mercury Marine Dealer ~
All kinds of Good News.
First off, I had received incorrect information initially regarding the need to convert my rig to 'all digital gauges, controls & steering' to facilitate the new motor. Not the case.
The newest Pro XS is available in multiple configurations to accommodate most any fitment - Meaning it will be Plug & Play more or less. (besides I prefer the standard manual throttle I have) Makes the re-power less work & Less $$.
Fan of that.
Paperwork getting written up over the weekend and I'll return on Monday to sign the final draft.
At which point I'll "be on the list". Current time frame for delivery looks like mid July right now.
Looking forward to it - besides being a welcome distraction.
A-Jay
Further North reply :
Cool. Please keep up the updates.
I hope the "welcome distraction" isn't from bad stuff.
gimruis reply :
On 5/27/2018 at 7:24 AM, Further North said:I'm not sure that I'd bother to upgrade a motor that is as new as yours is, but I can see why you're doing it. I'd like the the switch from 2 stroke to 4 stroke.
That is exactly what I thought. I wouldn't bother to upgrade something as new as that Opti but its a personal choice and like he's stated, he can and he wants to.
I have a question. Maybe you posted it in the original specs. What kind of speed did you get with the Opti and what kind of speed to you expect to get with the XS?
A-Jay reply :
On 6/3/2018 at 3:27 AM, gimruis said:
That is exactly what I thought. I wouldn't bother to upgrade something as new as that Opti but its a personal choice and like he's stated, he can and he wants to.
I have a question. Maybe you posted it in the original specs. What kind of speed did you get with the Opti and what kind of speed to you expect to get with the XS?
The current Two Stroke has just over a hundred hours on it - A full year left on the all inclusive factory warranty and looks brand new. While still having an almost a cult following, the big two strokes Mercs are No Longer made.
Additionally, the funds expended on this new motor will be about the same as what I'd need to spend on an 'extended warranty' for a three year old motor. Instead, I get a brand new unit.
Finally, although I'm still waiting to hear back, but I think these new motors come with a 6 years factory warranty.
Either way, all that seems to make it a pretty good time to re-power.
As for speed, I'm running @58 mph WOT, but I don't really race anyone.
No clue what the new motor will do, perhaps at least what I'm getting now, but I'm expecting it to be quite a bit more fuel efficient.
A-Jay
Capt.Bob reply :
On 6/3/2018 at 4:42 AM, A-Jay said:The current Two Stroke has just over a hundred hours on it - A full year left on the all inclusive factory warranty and looks brand new. While still having an almost a cult following, the big two strokes Mercs are No Longer made.
Additionally, the funds expended on this new motor will be about the same as what I'd need to spend on an 'extended warranty' for a three year old motor. Instead, I get a brand new unit.
Finally, although I'm still waiting to hear back, but I think these new motors come with a 6 years factory warranty.
Either way, all that seems to make it a pretty good time to re-power.
As for speed, I'm running @58 mph WOT, but I don't really race anyone.
No clue what the new motor will do, perhaps at least what I'm getting now, but I'm expecting it to be quite a bit more fuel efficient.
A-Jay
Good luck with the new power plant A-Jay! I think this sounds like a well thought out plan, and only makes sence, as the current motor will take a big hit off warranty cash wise, and with 6 years not worrying about maintenance cost's, if a gut can afford it it sounds like the is=deal thing to do, as well as the 4 stroke with same weight, win win! But like you I would not care about top end speed, hell it is going to be more than I would use, but what I do care about more than speed, is fuel economy! That alone is worth 5 or 6 mph to me. Enjoy the upgrade!!
A-Jay reply :
New Motor's a Go ~
Order went in this morning.
Expected delivery date is 1 August.
A day to mount & rig it on the Pro-V Bass and I'll ready for the Fall Bite.
Pumped.
A-Jay
Further North reply :
On 6/4/2018 at 10:54 PM, A-Jay said:New Motor's a Go ~
Order went in this morning.
Expected delivery date is 1 August.
A day to mount & rig it on the Pro-V Bass and I'll ready for the Fall Bite.
Pumped.
A-Jay
We expect step by step video of the install, break-in and evaluation process. Detailed performance reports with graphs, tables and perhaps a spreadsheet devoted to MPH vs. MPG with several different propellers.
An interview with each member of the install crew, plus a deep thoughtful retrospective on the retirement of the Otpi is also indicated, possibly multi-part released over several days.
????
...this is a cool project. Ignore all that idiocy and have fun with it.
A-Jay reply :
On 6/4/2018 at 11:16 PM, Further North said:We expect step by step video of the install, break-in and evaluation process. Detailed performance reports with graphs, tables and perhaps a spreadsheet devoted to MPH vs. MPG with several different propellers.
An interview with each member of the install crew, plus a deep thoughtful retrospective on the retirement of the Otpi is also indicated, possibly multi-part released over several days.
????
...this is a cool project. Ignore all that idiocy and have fun with it.
Don't tempt me - you know I'll do it 
Since I'll still be running the Opti between now & trading it in - I'll be 'babying it' Big Time.
Might even drive 30 mph in the break down lane with the flashers on . . .
Just to be safe.
A-Jay
A-Jay reply :
Dealer called today.
Delivery date was 'updated' by Mercury Marine this morning.
"18 Weeks" is the word I'm getting now.
Pushes it back into October . . .
Hoping to get a least a couple of weeks to run it & get the prop right before hard water.
Glad I ordered it quickly, any hesitation may have had me waiting until 2019 . . . .
A-Jay
Further North reply :
On 6/8/2018 at 3:06 AM, A-Jay said:"18 Weeks" is the word I'm getting now.
Jeez....
Gonna be cold in October... ????
A-Jay reply :
On 6/8/2018 at 3:16 AM, Further North said:Jeez....
Gonna be cold in October... ????
Yea - I hear ya.
I'm booked to head south of the border again right about that time as well.
Might work out where they can mount the new motor & rig it up while I'm hooking Mutant green bass and sipping Margarita's. Then I can run it around when it get back for a couple of weeks before putting her up for the season.
Plenty can change between now & then so we'll play it as it comes.
A-Jay
Further North reply :
On 6/8/2018 at 4:12 AM, A-Jay said:Yea - I hear ya.
I'm booked to head south of the border again right about that time as well.
Might work out where they can mount the new motor & rig it up while I'm hooking Mutant green bass and sipping Margarita's. Then I can run it around when it get back for a couple of weeks before putting her up for the season.
Plenty can change between now & then so we'll play it as it comes.
A-Jay
It'd be cool if it worked out that way.
My faith in sales-reported manufacturing schedules, based on 35 years of dealing with Sales Gomers 'n' Goobers making promises we couldn't keep, is about zero...
I Hope you're dealing with someone who's been dosed with reality.
A-Jay reply :
On 6/8/2018 at 7:21 AM, Further North said:It'd be cool if it worked out that way.
My faith in sales-reported manufacturing schedules, based on 35 years of dealing with Sales Gomers 'n' Goobers making promises we couldn't keep, is about zero...
I Hope you're dealing with someone who's been dosed with reality.
Thanks ~
Me too.
A-Jay
slonezp reply :
On 6/8/2018 at 4:12 AM, A-Jay said:Yea - I hear ya.
I'm booked to head south of the border again right about that time as well.
Might work out where they can mount the new motor & rig it up while I'm hooking Mutant green bass and sipping Margarita's. Then I can run it around when it get back for a couple of weeks before putting her up for the season.
Plenty can change between now & then so we'll play it as it comes.
A-Jay
I'd bet @12poundbass would do you a solid and break her in for you.
A-Jay reply :
On 6/8/2018 at 10:16 AM, slonezp said:I'd bet @12poundbass would do you a solid and break her in for you.
By all accounts he is that kind of guy ~
A-Jay
12poundbass reply :
On 6/8/2018 at 10:16 AM, slonezp said:I'd bet @12poundbass would do you a solid and break her in for you.
On 6/8/2018 at 11:46 AM, A-Jay said:By all accounts he is that kind of guy ~
A-Jay
I could probably work this into my busy schedule. I'm willing to bet two things would happen.....
1: @A-Jay gets back his finger nails are chewed down to nothing
2: the whole time I'm on the water there's a white and orange helicopter hovering 50' about my head with a camera pointed right at me. ????
bassinrobert54 reply :
A-Jay,With the new motor being 505 lbs. and the talons ? [I'm quessing 200lbs apiece with the plates to mount to the transom with the tilt bracket the weight would come out to 900lbs.]What is the weight restriction on the transom,any idea.
Bob Galloway
J Francho reply :
The shipping weight of a 12' Talon is 60 lbs. and the bracket is less than 25 lbs.
slonezp reply :
On 6/19/2018 at 2:23 AM, bassinrobert54 said:A-Jay,With the new motor being 505 lbs. and the talons ? [I'm quessing 200lbs apiece with the plates to mount to the transom with the tilt bracket the weight would come out to 900lbs.]What is the weight restriction on the transom,any idea.
Bob Galloway
I dont know about transom ratings on A-jay's hull but my Lund transom is rated for 950lbs
A-Jay reply :
On 6/19/2018 at 2:23 AM, bassinrobert54 said:A-Jay,With the new motor being 505 lbs. and the talons ? [I'm quessing 200lbs apiece with the plates to mount to the transom with the tilt bracket the weight would come out to 900lbs.]What is the weight restriction on the transom,any idea.
Bob Galloway
Hi Bob ~
That 505 lbs is what the 200 Opti that's on there now weighs in at - so no difference there.
The Talons are really quite 'light' - the extendable poles are fiberglass, the case is basally plastic and the mounts & internal framing is aluminum - Don't know what the exact weight of each is but I'd put it close to perhaps 55 lbs or so.
The Pro-V's composite transom and 96 inch beam seems to be able to support what's there well.
And in an interesting turn of events - there is some serious consideration being made to ADDING a hydraulic jack plate to the mix. With the new motor going on, seems like a perfect time.
The SeaStar Xtreme Jackplate Hydraulic Jackplate 6” ~ Seems to be where we're headed.
http://www.seastarsolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/SeaStar-XtremeJackplates-DataSheet.pdf
Since I'm currently running SeaStar Steering, this one is designed to maximize engine tilt when used with SeaStar steering cylinders.
More to follow . . . .
A-Jay
Further North reply :
On 6/19/2018 at 7:20 AM, A-Jay said:And in an interesting turn of events - there is some serious consideration being made to ADDING a hydraulic jack plate to the mix. With the new motor going on, seems like a perfect time.
The SeaStar Xtreme Jackplate Hydraulic Jackplate 6” ~ Seems to be where we're headed.
http://www.seastarsolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/SeaStar-XtremeJackplates-DataSheet.pdf
Since I'm currently running SeaStar Steering, this one is designed to maximize engine tilt when used with SeaStar steering cylinders.
I'm very interested in how this turns out. I've toyed with the idea for years...but everything works so well now that I'm just not inclined to mess with it. I'd have to be pretty sure I'd see serious improvement, or get some other quantifiable benefit to spend the money.
A-Jay reply :
On 6/19/2018 at 10:20 AM, Further North said:I'm very interested in how this turns out. I've toyed with the idea for years...but everything works so well now that I'm just not inclined to mess with it. I'd have to be pretty sure I'd see serious improvement, or get some other quantifiable benefit to spend the money.
You & me both ~
It SO easy to go a little nuts ($) - between wanting to upgrade to mega imaging, an Ultrex, a new motor, and now perhaps a Jack plate . . . . . I might have to go back to work . . . .Naaah.
A-Jay
Further North reply :
On 6/19/2018 at 10:55 AM, A-Jay said:I might have to go back to work
Bad A-Jay! Bad!
J Francho reply :
A 6" set back? That's cute. Mine's 15". 
A-Jay reply :
On 6/19/2018 at 8:56 PM, J Francho said:A 6" set back? That's cute. Mine's 15".
Always quick with support J.
Thanks I appreciate it.
A-Jay
Mainthrust reply :
I’m very interested in the out come on this. I just got 1875 pro v bass in April it has the 150 on it. Installing a atlas jp and hydraulic steering on it in a few weeks. I got killer deal on the boat it was a left over. But I really want a 200 on it. I’m like you do I need a 200hp no but I do want it. A-jay I’m new to the site not sure how to pm someone. If you could pm me on a number of what that 200 is gonna cost roughly. I really want a g2 but it’s gonna cost a lot more to rig
FryDog62 reply :
A-Jay, I’ve been reading this thread with interest. I’m quite happy with my current motor, but there’s a glimmer of a thought to switch out to the new XS. Cost and no burning reason to switch out are factors. Sometime we’ll have to catch up and compare notes on your trade-out experience... still loving my PVB!!
TnRiver46 reply :
Vroom vroom!!!! My merc 4 stroke has been reliable when I can keep a gearcase on it.......
A-Jay reply :
On 6/28/2018 at 6:47 AM, Mainthrust said:I’m very interested in the out come on this. I just got 1875 pro v bass in April it has the 150 on it. Installing a atlas jp and hydraulic steering on it in a few weeks. I got killer deal on the boat it was a left over. But I really want a 200 on it. I’m like you do I need a 200hp no but I do want it. A-jay I’m new to the site not sure how to pm someone. If you could pm me on a number of what that 200 is gonna cost roughly. I really want a g2 but it’s gonna cost a lot more to rig
Hello and Welcome to Bass Resource ~
I'm sending you a PM
A-Jay
A-Jay reply :
Got a surprise call from my Mercury Marine dealer today.
The surprise is my New Motor Is IN ! ! !
Still ironing out some details but tentative plans indicate that by the end of next week the Pro-V Bass will be sporting a new power plant . . .
More to follow.
Who's stoked . . . .
A-Jay
12poundbass reply :
Awesome! Sounds like you might have won the lotto. From what I've read they are 2 or more months out because they were ill prepared for the popularity of the new motor.
One thing's for sure the Pro-V bass is going to be even more sweet looking if that's possible.
A-Jay reply :
On 8/31/2018 at 8:10 AM, 12poundbass said:Awesome! Sounds like you might have won the lotto. From what I've read they are 2 or more months out because they were ill prepared for the popularity of the new motor.
One thing's for sure the Pro-V bass is going to be even more sweet looking if that's possible.
I certainly appreciate the 'earlier than expected' delivery.
The dealer was Very Surprised.
I will admit that I've been in Mercury Marine's 'hear' every chance I got.
Don't know if that played a role but I'm going with the squeaky wheel got the grease.
A 6 inch Sea Star manual Jack plate will be part of the deal as well.
Can't wait.
A-Jay
Tim Kelly reply :
Looking forward to hearing how great it is. The 200hp motor selection was the only weak point with the 1875 PB, now the V8 is available I think it will make it the boat even more popular, and rightly so.
Further North reply :
On 8/31/2018 at 8:29 AM, A-Jay said:A 6 inch Sea Star manual Jack plate will be part of the deal as well.
2 things I'm curious about, why the Jack plate...and why manual?
J Francho reply :
I had a manual 12" jackplate because manual was lighter, and once the boat was set up, there was no need to adjust.
12poundbass reply :
On 8/31/2018 at 8:57 PM, J Francho said:I had a manual 12" jackplate because manual was lighter, and once the boat was set up, there was no need to adjust.
Is the purpose of a jackplate to be able to run in skinnier water?
J Francho reply :
On 8/31/2018 at 9:16 PM, 12poundbass said:Is the purpose of a jackplate to be able to run in skinnier water?
It's not the only reason. A set back adds performance, as does properly setting the height.
A-Jay reply :
On 8/31/2018 at 8:52 PM, Further North said:2 things I'm curious about, why the Jack plate...and why manual?
On 8/31/2018 at 9:16 PM, 12poundbass said:Is the purpose of a jackplate to be able to run in skinnier water?
On 8/31/2018 at 9:19 PM, J Francho said:It's not the only reason. A set back adds performance, as does properly setting the height.
@Further North @12poundbass
The manual jack plate choice came with a lot of research while assessing at how & where I run the Pro-V.
@J Francho summed it up well and I will add some to that.
I do not run super skinny water on plane - ever. Too risky and I'm all about eliminating risk.
No doubt it'd be nice, but I do not really 'need' the hydraulic deal and all that comes with it. (weight & $$$$$)
What I do need is more space between the motor and the transom that the unit provides as it will allow better clearance for the SI transducer unit without having to tilt the motor. (which is a little bit of a PIA).
For me, the boat, motor & electronics package all need to play nice together and currently there is room for improvement. The timing is right to address it too.
Along with that, I'll be happy to also benefit from any performance improvement attained along with having the ability to tweak it a bit if need be.
My dealer is 'talking to' Mercury & Lund on my behalf to inquire as to what may be the proper / efficient prop choice.
Where very few Pro-V's have this new motor yet, there may be some trial & error here. Initial plan is to move the 21" Tempest Plus ( which is working well) from the V-6 to the V-8 and start there.
Be nice if it ended there as well.
Where the motor's weights are also identical, I might get lucky.
More to follow.
A-Jay
12poundbass reply :
On 8/31/2018 at 10:26 PM, A-Jay said:I do not run super skinny water on plane - ever. Too risky and I'm all about eliminating risk
That's why I was asking. I didn't figure you'd run skinny water on plane. I sure as heck wouldn't. What is the current draft on your rig right now and what will it be capable of after the jackplate is installed?
Something you mentioned that caught my attention was you said you have issues with SI unless you tilt the motor. Do you only get clean images from one side because of the motor being in the way? Is this a common problem for rigs without jackplates? You're right it would be a royal PIA if you have to tilt up every time you want to idle around and scan. I've heard people talk about but haven't gave it much thought since I currently don't have a boat or a unit I want to install it on....yet.
J Francho reply :
The setback should mitigate the SI issue. Getting the prop higher out of the water means less drag. Moving the prop back puts the prop in "cleaner" water.
A-Jay reply :
Pro-V's Draft is 16 inches ~
Anything less than 36 I'm using the push pole.
Yes, clean right - obscured about 30 % left without operator intervention.
Can't say to what extent the SI deal is - just know that my fitment is about to improve.
A-Jay
Further North reply :
On 8/31/2018 at 10:26 PM, A-Jay said:
@Further North @12poundbass
The manual jack plate choice came with a lot of research while assessing at how & where I run the Pro-V.
@J Francho summed it up well and I will add some to that.
I do not run super skinny water on plane - ever. Too risky and I'm all about eliminating risk.
No doubt it'd be nice, but I do not really 'need' the hydraulic deal and all that comes with it. (weight & $$$$$)
What I do need is more space between the motor and the transom that the unit provides as it will allow better clearance for the SI transducer unit without having to tilt the motor. (which is a little bit of a PIA).
For me, the boat, motor & electronics package all need to play nice together and currently there is room for improvement. The timing is right to address it too.
Along with that, I'll be happy to also benefit from any performance improvement attained along with having the ability to tweak it a bit if need be.
My dearer is 'talking to' Mercury & Lund on my behalf to inquire as to what may be the proper / efficient prop choice.
Where very few Pro-V's have this new motor yet, there may be some trial & error here. Initial plan is to move the 21" Tempest Plus ( which is working well) from the V-6 to the V-8 and start there.
Be nice if it ended there as well.
Where the motor's weights are also identical, I might get lucky.
More to follow.
A-Jay
I knew you'd have thought it through and would have good reasoning, thanks.
I also don't ever run skinny water on plane, but have always bee interested in the idea of a powered jack plate to get the motor up out if the way if I'm fishing skinny water on the trolling motor, or like you, with a pole (which I don't use often, the Ulterra will run pretty shallow).
Any performance benefits to the powered jack plate for me would be incidental to that...and like you, I don't need the weight and expense.
My SI runs really clean on this rig, even without a set back for the motor, so I don't have to worry about that.
J Francho reply :
On 9/1/2018 at 12:49 AM, Further North said:I also don't ever run skinny water on plane, but have always bee interested in the idea of a powered jack plate to get the motor up out if the way if I'm fishing skinny water on the trolling motor, or like you, with a pole (which I don't use often, the Ulterra will run pretty shallow).
That's what trim and tilt is for. 
Further North reply :
On 9/1/2018 at 12:54 AM, J Francho said:That's what trim and tilt is for.
It is...to a point. I like leaving the motor down as much as I can when I'm moving with the trolling motor because it acts like a rudder.
Without the big motor down acting as a rudder, my boat handles like a drunken rhinoceros on a wet clay river bank. I've looked and I feel like if I could raise it straight up (or closer to straight up) I could at least keep enough of the skeg in the water (On the same line as the bottom of the keel) and at least maintain some semblance of a "rudder". Tipping it out of the water doesn't work well.
J Francho reply :
You only need to raise enough to be at the same level as your boat drafts. The usually leaves at least 12" or more in the water, and you still have a rudder. Also, I'd rather the skeg hits bottom before my hull. The skeg is sacrificial, the hull is not. The skeg's only purpose is to protect the prop. A side benefit is the rudder action when on the trolling motor.
JLBBass reply :
Amazing a V8 four stroke outboard weighing just a tad over 500lbs!
AWESOME!
Further North reply :
On 9/1/2018 at 1:05 AM, J Francho said:You only need to raise enough to be at the same level as your boat drafts. The usually leaves at least 12" or more in the water, and you still have a rudder. Also, I'd rather the skeg hits bottom before my hull. The skeg is sacrificial, the hull is not. The skeg's only purpose is to protect the prop. A side benefit is the rudder action when on the trolling motor.
Yeah...the angles on mine are all sorta weird the way everything goes together. By the time I get the motor up enough to clear obstructions it's pretty close to worthless as a rudder.
slonezp reply :
On 8/31/2018 at 11:20 PM, 12poundbass said:That's why I was asking. I didn't figure you'd run skinny water on plane. I sure as heck wouldn't. What is the current draft on your rig right now and what will it be capable of after the jackplate is installed?
Something you mentioned that caught my attention was you said you have issues with SI unless you tilt the motor. Do you only get clean images from one side because of the motor being in the way? Is this a common problem for rigs without jackplates? You're right it would be a royal PIA if you have to tilt up every time you want to idle around and scan. I've heard people talk about but haven't gave it much thought since I currently don't have a boat or a unit I want to install it on....yet.
A number of tin boat guys will run 2 SI transducers one on either side of the motor to get unobstructed images while leaving the motor trimmed all the way down. A single transducer will bounce images off the motor with the trim all the way down. Trimming up some will reduce the feedback but also gives you less boat control at slower speeds
Further North reply :
On 9/1/2018 at 4:46 AM, slonezp said:A number of tin boat guys will run 2 SI transducers one on either side of the motor to get unobstructed images while leaving the motor trimmed all the way down. A single transducer will bounce images off the motor with the trim all the way down. Trimming up some will reduce the feedback but also gives you less boat control at slower speeds
Jason Halfen recommends that approach. I'm pretty sure he had his Ranger set up that way.
A-Jay reply :
On 9/1/2018 at 4:46 AM, slonezp said:A number of tin boat guys will run 2 SI transducers one on either side of the motor to get unobstructed images while leaving the motor trimmed all the way down. A single transducer will bounce images off the motor with the trim all the way down. Trimming up some will reduce the feedback but also gives you less boat control at slower speeds
Good idea and probably requires less funding than a new motor & jack plate.
**** Update ****
Dealer called. Service department's two-blocked for coming week.
Next available time slot for the re-power is the week after next.
So mid-September now. Still at least 30 days earlier than expected.
In the mean time, guess I just have to keep picking off those brown bass, for a couple more weeks anyway.
Jack plate's ordered.
A-Jay
Further North reply :
On 9/1/2018 at 4:51 AM, A-Jay said:Good idea and probably requires less funding than a new motor & jack plate.
A-Jay
Looks like you can get a manual jack plate for around $310, a Helix SI MEGA transducer is $350 before tax and shipping...and you'd need a splitter...that's another $40...
12poundbass reply :
On 9/1/2018 at 5:01 AM, Further North said:Looks like you can get a manual jack plate for around $310, a Helix SI MEGA transducer is $350 before tax and shipping...and you'd need a splitter...that's another $40...
Not to step on @A-Jay toes but he doesn't have a MEGA so it would be cheaper. However the performance increase could very well be worth it.
Further North reply :
On 9/1/2018 at 4:51 AM, A-Jay said:In the mean time, guess I just have to keep picking off those brown bass, for a couple more weeks anyway.
Life is tough. Soldier on. ????
Further North reply :
On 9/1/2018 at 5:17 AM, 12poundbass said:Not to step on @A-Jay toes but he doesn't have a MEGA so it would be cheaper. However the performance increase could very well be worth it.
Oh, heck yeah!
...even the old XHS 9 HDSI 180 T is $270. Add $40 for the splitter, tax and shipping...a push, at least, dollar wise, and in this case the improved oomph from the jack plate is a no-brainer.
I looked at the dual transducer set up when Jason Halfen suggested it for my rig, two boats ago...and rejected it based on cost, and having to worry about two transducers on the transom (I'd already crushed one backing into a BAMF rock drifting backwards downriver in the Chippewa River).
The bigger question is: Why in the heck doesn't @A-Jay have MEGA? That's simply unacceptable! I'm calling the Smallmouth Bass police, Humminbird, the NAACP, INTERPOL, the Canadian Mounties and the SPCA!
Janderson45 reply :
I'm loving the hydraulic jack plate on mine, being able to trim down while raising the jackplate at the same time helps find the sweet spot for whatever conditions and load are. I haven't run my rig without one so it's tough to say, but I would guess it adds a MPH or two to my top end speed.
The 1875 Renegade only drafts 11.5" (manufacturer stated) or closer to 10" (measured with half tank of gas and no passengers).. Still very much a new boat owner but I was running WOT on plane @~50mph in 2-3 feet of water the other day. Jackplate was raised a little more than halfway and motor was about fully trimmed. I wouldn't do that unless I knew the fishery and hazards like the back of my hand though, just so happened that was the case.
A-Jay reply :
On 9/1/2018 at 7:37 AM, Further North said:Oh, heck yeah!
...even the old XHS 9 HDSI 180 T is $270. Add $40 for the splitter, tax and shipping...a push, at least, dollar wise, and in this case the improved oomph from the jack plate is a no-brainer.
I looked at the dual transducer set up when Jason Halfen suggested it for my rig, two boats ago...and rejected it based on cost, and having to worry about two transducers on the transom (I'd already crushed one backing into a BAMF rock drifting backwards downriver in the Chippewa River).
The bigger question is: Why in the heck doesn't @A-Jay have MEGA? That's simply unacceptable! I'm calling the Smallmouth Bass police, Humminbird, the NAACP, INTERPOL, the Canadian Mounties and the SPCA!
HA HA - You know what, if it will improve may catches I am All for it !
A-Jay
12poundbass reply :
On 9/1/2018 at 7:37 AM, Further North said:Oh, heck yeah!
...even the old XHS 9 HDSI 180 T is $270. Add $40 for the splitter, tax and shipping...a push, at least, dollar wise, and in this case the improved oomph from the jack plate is a no-brainer.
I looked at the dual transducer set up when Jason Halfen suggested it for my rig, two boats ago...and rejected it based on cost, and having to worry about two transducers on the transom (I'd already crushed one backing into a BAMF rock drifting backwards downriver in the Chippewa River).
The bigger question is: Why in the heck doesn't @A-Jay have MEGA? That's simply unacceptable! I'm calling the Smallmouth Bass police, Humminbird, the NAACP, INTERPOL, the Canadian Mounties and the SPCA!
He has 360 enough said it's been working. The proof is in the pudding.....????
I'm starting to feel like @A-Jay agent.
A-Jay reply :
On 9/1/2018 at 9:31 AM, 12poundbass said:He has 360 enough said it's been working. The proof is in the pudding.....????
I'm starting to feel like @A-Jay agent.
Thanks I need all the support I can get
A-Jay
FryDog62 reply :
On 9/1/2018 at 12:49 AM, Further North said:I knew you'd have thought it through and would have good reasoning, thanks.
I also don't ever run skinny water on plane, but have always bee interested in the idea of a powered jack plate to get the motor up out if the way if I'm fishing skinny water on the trolling motor, or like you, with a pole (which I don't use often, the Ulterra will run pretty shallow).
Any performance benefits to the powered jack plate for me would be incidental to that...and like you, I don't need the weight and expense.
My SI runs really clean on this rig, even without a set back for the motor, so I don't have to worry about that.
I have the Pro-V Bass as well and rigged with the same jack plate as in the video below. I have it specifically to run on plane in skinny water that I’m familiar with.
Relying solely on tilt/trim is actually counter intuitive - because you trim at an angle which actually digs the transom/prop down and defeats the purpose of trimming “up.”
A Jack plate is the way to go in my book, and I actually run the same exact stretch of river as in the video and it works very well.
Further North reply :
On 9/1/2018 at 9:31 AM, 12poundbass said:He has 360 enough said it's been working. The proof is in the pudding.....????
I'm starting to feel like @A-Jay agent.
I have 360° too...almost never use it. Seems to be for folks who sit still. I can't do that...
On 9/1/2018 at 10:52 AM, FryDog62 said:I have the Pro-V Bass as well and rigged with the same jack plate as in the video below. I have it specifically to run on plane in skinny water that I’m familiar with.
Relying solely on tilt/trim is actually counter intuitive - because you trim at an angle which actually digs the transom/prop down and defeats the purpose of trimming “up.”
A Jack plate is the way to go in my book, and I actually run the same exact stretch of river as in the video and it works very well.
Thanks, good info.
They don't make a jack plate that'll let me run on our skinny water around here, but that's good info regardless. I'll keep thinking about it.
12poundbass reply :
On 9/1/2018 at 11:34 AM, Further North said:I have 360° too...almost never use it. Seems to be for folks who sit still. I can't do that...
Thanks, good info.
They don't make a jack plate that'll let me run on our skinny water around here, but that's good info regardless. I'll keep thinking about it.
Seems to work for @A-Jay it's my bed time though he'll be by shortly to show you the rewards of his hard work.
Edited by 12poundbasskenmitch reply :
On 8/31/2018 at 7:29 AM, A-Jay said:Got a surprise call from my Mercury Marine dealer today.
The surprise is my New Motor Is IN ! ! !
Still ironing out some details but tentative plans indicate that by the end of next week the Pro-V Bass will be sporting a new power plant . . .
More to follow.
Who's stoked . . . .
A-Jay
Nice! I bet your excited to get it up and running. I know you'll be tempted to take it full throttle and see what she'll do once you get it broken in....Safety 1st before those last couple of mph's.
I only have a peddle drive kayak with 1 manpower(.10 hp) Maybe the peddle drive bumps me up to .50 hp?
A-Jay reply :
On 9/1/2018 at 9:54 PM, kenmitch said:Nice! I bet your excited to get it up and running. I know you'll be tempted to take it full throttle and see what she'll do once you get it broken in....Safety 1st before those last couple of mph's.
I only have a peddle drive kayak with 1 manpower(.10 hp) Maybe the peddle drive bumps me up to .50 hp?
I'm running a 200 hp Optimax now - Not expecting too much in the way of pure speed.
But I'll take whatever happens my way.
A-Jay reply :
The Latest ~
Jack Plates in and I just scheduled my date(s) for the re-power.
On Wednesday the 12th, I'll be dropping off the Pro-V Bass.
Expect to be up & running for that next weekend.
But until then - I'm still on the hunt for over-sized brown bass.
Back at it crack of dawn tomorrow.
A-Jay
A-Jay reply :
One last look at the 2-stroke before she was dropped of at the mercury dealer this morning.
Expect to test-ride the new Pro XS with the installer tomorrow -
#cantwait
A-Jay
Further North reply :
The final countdown has started...
????
Tim Kelly reply :
Really looking forward to hear what the differences in performance are. You're going to have a fun weekend A-Jay.
Would love to see a side by side comparison of the new 6 and 8 cylinder 200 motors as well
A-Jay reply :
So this just happened !
More to follow very soon . . .
A-Jay
Further North reply :
On 9/14/2018 at 1:45 AM, A-Jay said:
More to follow very soon . . .
A-Jay
????
12poundbass reply :
On 9/14/2018 at 1:45 AM, A-Jay said:
More to follow very soon . . .
A-Jay
We'll start calling you Alfred Hitchcock. ????
Further North reply :
On 9/14/2018 at 5:07 AM, 12poundbass said:We'll start calling you Alfred Hitchcock. ????
Can't.
That's a color picture...Hitchcock's best work was black and white.
12poundbass reply :
On 9/14/2018 at 5:56 AM, Further North said:Can't.
That's a color picture...Hitchcock's best work was black and white.
Hitchcock was called the master of suspense. @A-Jay is leaving us in suspense. ????
Further North reply :
On 9/14/2018 at 8:12 AM, 12poundbass said:Hitchcock was called the master of suspense. @A-Jay is leaving us in suspense. ????
Ah...I get it.
...my bet is he's still out on the lake playing.
kenmitch reply :
On 9/14/2018 at 1:45 AM, A-Jay said:
More to follow very soon . . .
A-Jay
Have a nice happy 2nd honeymoon! Let the motorboating begin! These days people take videos to celebrate the experience with others
A-Jay reply :
Hey Now ~
You had to know I'd be on the water right away !
Just got in.
Put about two hours on the new V-8.
Motor's Killer; quiet, fast, & super smooth.
Jack Plate's Dynamite; eliminated my SI obstruction deal and really does improve the Pro-V's ride & handling.
And I caught a few decent brown bass -
Win Win Win
I shot some video that's loading now.
But - - - I'm hitting it again pre-dawn up north tomorrow.
So I'm gonna catch a few zzz's now, fish in the morning and if I'm still conscious when I get back,
I'll post up what I've got.
Love it when a plan comes together.
A-Jay
Further North reply :
On 9/14/2018 at 9:56 AM, A-Jay said:Love it when a plan comes together.
Good for you!
Enjoy the day tomorrow, we'll be just fine waiting.
12poundbass reply :
On 9/14/2018 at 10:00 AM, Further North said:Good for you!
Enjoy the day tomorrow, we'll be just fine waiting.
Yup it appears @A-Jay was a good boy this year and Santa came early. He's like a kid who got that one toy he dreamed of and can't put it down for nothing. I'll bet he dreamed of 4 stroke outboards in his sleep last night. ????
A-Jay reply :
So here's what she looks like
And here's what she sounds like ~
I've got a couple of three break-in hours on her now.
Putting together the "First Impressions" video to be added here this weekend.
Very Very Good so far . . .
A-Jay
slonezp reply :
Don't you miss the badass sound that resonates from the ProXS?
A-Jay reply :
On 9/15/2018 at 9:38 AM, slonezp said:Don't you miss the badass sound that resonates from the ProXS?
Mercury didn't make the 200 Pro XS in a 'L' ~ 25 inch shaft, so I didn't have one.
I ran & traded in a straight up Optimax 200 HP.
About the only thing I'm 'missing' is this
along with the tank to put it in.
For the record - I like that start up quite a bit and then all the "quiet power" afterward.
A-Jay
12poundbass reply :
That thing looks wicked and it sounds wicked!
A-Jay reply :
On 9/15/2018 at 9:53 AM, 12poundbass said:That thing looks wicked and it sounds wicked!
That's what I thought as well.
A-Jay
slonezp reply :
On 9/15/2018 at 9:47 AM, A-Jay said:Mercury didn't make the 200 Pro XS in a 'L' ~ 25 inch shaft, so I didn't have one.
I ran & traded in a straight up Optimax 200 HP.
About the only thing I'm 'missing' is this
For the record - I like that start up quite a bit and then all the "quiet power" afterward.
A-Jay
Does it have electric power steering like the Vrod?
A-Jay reply :
On 9/15/2018 at 10:08 AM, slonezp said:Does it have electric power steering like the Vrod?
Utilizes the original equipment Sea Star steering system that came with the Pro-V Bass.
A-Jay
A-Jay reply :
After getting the Pro-V back from the dealer yesterday and then reloading my gear, all there was left to do was splash it and make the maiden voyage with the new Pro XS. Headed to a local lake that afternoon.
There was a little wind & chop. Video footage below includes that first run as well as my first impressions at the end.
All things considered this deal came & went together fairly smoothly. Besides being delivered a full month early (when does that ever happen? ) Mercury did make the new Pro XS very close to a plug & play replacement for the Optimax. So the dealer was able to remove the old, and mount the jack plate & new motor as well as test run it for me, all in 1 day. We had discussed using the same motor height & prop (Tempest Plus 21 inch P) and so far that seems to be very good. The dealer set the motor's computerized trim stops to prevent any steering gear hang ups.
Motor matched up to my existing throttle and smart craft gauges seamlessly.
So as of now, I am very pleased - and really happy with the 5 year warranty.
There will mostly likely be more to come here as we go along.
A-Jay
Tim Kelly reply :
Love how the silver lower unit matches the silver of your trailer. It was meant to be!
slonezp reply :
On 9/15/2018 at 1:10 PM, Tim Kelly said:Love how the silver lower unit matches the silver of your trailer. It was meant to be!
That's Mercurys performance gear case. It's not special to the new engine
Tim Kelly reply :
On 9/15/2018 at 7:45 PM, slonezp said:That's Mercurys performance gear case. It's not special to the new engine
I know, but it looks custom.
A-Jay reply :
On 9/15/2018 at 1:10 PM, Tim Kelly said:Love how the silver lower unit matches the silver of your trailer. It was meant to be!
Thanks Tim.
Even though this rig will probably never never see anything but the sweet water (no salt water),
I'm a big fan of that galvanized trailer.
Although it looks sort of plain and clearly not nearly as 'custom' looking as a matched up painted deal. It will look pretty much the same long after I'm done with it.
A galvanized trailer will maintain its resale value and are scratch resistant to stones & chains.
Galvanized steel offers maintenance-free corrosion protection for nearly 50 years.
The service life of a galvanized trailer will be at least 25 years
The average cost of sandblasting and repainting a painted trailer is roughly the difference in the $$$ between the painted versions.
I just paid it in advance.
A-Jay
Further North reply :
Thanks for the updates, looks and sounds awesome!
It's louder at idle than I expected, but that's likely just the recording.
...how was the fishing?
DINK WHISPERER reply :
OMG, looks just like a rude motor! Why Merc. . . . Why!?
Further North reply :
On 9/16/2018 at 12:14 AM, DINK WHISPERER said:OMG, looks just like a rude motor! Why Merc. . . . Why!?
Maybe a little on the outside...
...nothing like an Evinrude on the inside.
12poundbass reply :
On 9/16/2018 at 12:14 AM, DINK WHISPERER said:OMG, looks just like a rude motor! Why Merc. . . . Why!?
I know I'm an outsider but those new Evinrudes and the Mercs look sweet.
I saw a picture of a white Vexus with a white rude and that was one sweet rig!
Tim Kelly reply :
On 9/15/2018 at 10:03 PM, A-Jay said:Thanks Tim.
Even though this rig will probably never never see anything but the sweet water (no salt water),
I'm a big fan of that galvanized trailer.
Although it looks sort of plain and clearly not nearly as 'custom' looking as a matched up painted deal. it will look pretty much look the same long after I'm done with it.
A galvanized trailer will maintain its resale value and are scratch resistant to stones & chains.
Galvanized steel offers maintenance-free corrosion protection for nearly 50 years.
The service life of a galvanized trailer will be at least 25 years
The average cost of sandblasting and repainting a painted trailer is roughly the difference in the $$$ between the painted versions.I just paid it in advance.
A-Jay
My trailer's galvanized too. ????
Further North reply :
On 9/16/2018 at 1:48 AM, 12poundbass said:I know I'm an outsider but those new Evinrudes and the Mercs look sweet.
No, you're not. While I can't list myself as the biggest fan of the styling, it's not bad. The G2 E-Tecs are attention grabbers, that's for sure. I'm more a fan of subtlety, but there's nothing about any of the new motors that bothers me.
S Hovanec reply :
Grrrr. Now you went and fired up the new boat bug again! I just can't do it now. Well, I could but the wife would string me up by my, umm, you know. We're working on acquiring a new house and shop! Then the Tahoe has to be replaced with a truck. Maybe in 3 years I'll be posting a video like this!
NorcalBassin reply :
Very cool journey and well done with the upgrade. Only thing nicer than the motor in your video was your shirt... 4 year drought is coming to an end in 2018!
Jeff Browning reply :
AJ - I found a 16 Pro V Bass w/ 200 HP Verado, trying to decide between going new and used. Through the local dealer can order a 19 for about 12K more than the 16, equipped the same. Is there a huge difference between the Verado and the Pro XS? I’m still new to boat owning and fishing, and I can afford new, just want to be smart about it. I’m just a recreational bass fisherman and hopefully, maybe, my next boat will be my last as I’m getting up in age/
Jeff
slonezp reply :
On 11/3/2018 at 4:24 PM, Jeff Browning said:AJ - I found a 16 Pro V Bass w/ 200 HP Verado, trying to decide between going new and used. Through the local dealer can order a 19 for about 12K more than the 16, equipped the same. Is there a huge difference between the Verado and the Pro XS? I’m still new to boat owning and fishing, and I can afford new, just want to be smart about it. I’m just a recreational bass fisherman and hopefully, maybe, my next boat will be my last as I’m getting up in age/
Jeff
There is. The Verado is a supercharged inline 6 with electronic controls. The new line of ProXS that A Jay has is a V8 naturally aspirated 4 stroke. The old ProXS prior to this year is a 2 stroke v6 naturally aspirated
A-Jay reply :
On 11/3/2018 at 4:24 PM, Jeff Browning said:AJ - I found a 16 Pro V Bass w/ 200 HP Verado, trying to decide between going new and used. Through the local dealer can order a 19 for about 12K more than the 16, equipped the same. Is there a huge difference between the Verado and the Pro XS? I’m still new to boat owning and fishing, and I can afford new, just want to be smart about it. I’m just a recreational bass fisherman and hopefully, maybe, my next boat will be my last as I’m getting up in age/
Jeff
On 11/3/2018 at 6:18 PM, slonezp said:There is. The Verado is a supercharged inline 6 with electronic controls. The new line of ProXS that A Jay has is a V8 naturally aspirated 4 stroke. The old ProXS prior to this year is a 2 stroke v6 naturally aspirated
@slonezp pretty much covered it.
Before this new line of V8 Four strokes, there was a fairly large difference is weight. The 2 strokes were more than 100lbs lighter. This is not the case with the current models as the new four stokes have been stripped down and weight virtually the same. The big 2 stroke Optimax is no longer being produced and has been replaced by the V6 & V8 Four stroke.
I like my ProXS quite a bit. While still early on I have Zero regrets on making the switch.
As for selecting a 16 or a 19 - I'd get the newest model available. The 16 (which is what I have) is a sweet rig but the newest model will have whatever minor improvements needed. I'm sure Lund learns a & improves the models annually; especially since the Pro-V Bass is only a few years in production.
Good Luck with your choice & eventual purchase. I'm betting you'll be happy with your new Pro-V Bass regardless of which way you lean.
A-Jay
TnRiver46 reply :
@A-Jay, is that an optical illusion or is your skeg on the driveway??? Hahah
Jeff Browning reply :
Thanks for the input. I went, actually met with the dealer and crawled all over the 2075 w/ 250 Pro XS first. The 1875 next to irt seemed small in comparison, going with the new boat I think. I like the idea of an extended warranty option.
A-Jay reply :
On 11/5/2018 at 11:27 AM, Jeff Browning said:Thanks for the input. I went, actually met with the dealer and crawled all over the 2075 w/ 250 Pro XS first. The 1875 next to irt seemed small in comparison, going with the new boat I think. I like the idea of an extended warranty option.
Soild Plan - That 2075 is a sweet rig !
I'm fishing solo 95 % of the time and the 1875 is perfect for the one man launch & recover evolution.
A-Jay
northlander73 reply :
responding to Jeff about the verado, I have the verado L4 which I believe is the same weight as the pro xs, the verado 6 cylinder is heavier.
Jeff Browning reply :
Thanks for the info guys!
From one retired enlisted man to another; thanks for your service and Happy Veteran’s Day (upcoming) AJ!!
Further North reply :
On 11/5/2018 at 1:16 PM, A-Jay said:I'm fishing solo 95 % of the time and the 1875 is perfect for the one man launch & recover evolution.
That's how I landed on a similarly sized boat too.
That, and launching a bigger boat would be really hard to do on some of our lakes.
SmallBlockMuscle reply :
On 11/3/2018 at 7:35 PM, A-Jay said:
@slonezp pretty much covered it.
Before this new line of V8 Four strokes, there was a fairly large difference is weight. The 2 strokes were more than 100lbs lighter. This is not the case with the current models as the new four stokes have been stripped down and weight virtually the same. The big 2 stroke Optimax is no longer being produced and has been replaced by the V6 & V8 Four stroke.
I like my ProXS quite a bit. While still early on I have Zero regrets on making the switch.
As for selecting a 16 or a 19 - I'd get the newest model available. The 16 (which is what I have) is a sweet rig but the newest model will have whatever minor improvements needed. I'm sure Lund learns a & improves the models annually; especially since the Pro-V Bass is only a few years in production.
Good Luck with your choice & eventual purchase. I'm betting you'll be happy with your new Pro-V Bass regardless of which way you lean.
A-Jay
Just saw this picture posted on the Lund facebook page.
A-Jay reply :
On 11/6/2018 at 5:21 AM, SmallBlockMuscle said:Just saw this picture posted on the Lund facebook page.
Yea - I'm good like that ~
A-Jay
Vilas15 reply :
On 11/6/2018 at 6:24 AM, A-Jay said:Yea - I'm good like that ~
A-Jay
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A-Jay reply :
On 11/6/2018 at 10:25 AM, Vilas15 said:https://www.instagram.com/p/Bp0ervinbvA/
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Jeff Browning reply :
Fry,
How do you like the Verado? Any problems?
Jeff
Further North reply :
A friend just ordered the 225 XS for his 22 ft. Skeeter.
Jeff Browning reply :
AJ - noticed you don’t have a jack plate. If you were building the boat again would you get one? Seems like a good place to mount the Talons vs the brackets. How do you like them? With spot lock would you buy shallow water anchors again?
Jeff
A-Jay reply :
On 6/19/2018 at 7:20 AM, A-Jay said:Hi Bob ~
That 505 lbs is what the 200 Opti that's on there now weighs in at - so no difference there.
The Talons are really quite 'light' - the extendable poles are fiberglass, the case is basally plastic and the mounts & internal framing is aluminum - Don't know what the exact weight of each is but I'd put it close to perhaps 55 lbs or so.
The Pro-V's composite transom and 96 inch beam seems to be able to support what's there well.
And in an interesting turn of events - there is some serious consideration being made to ADDING a hydraulic jack plate to the mix. With the new motor going on, seems like a perfect time.
The SeaStar Xtreme Jackplate Hydraulic Jackplate 6” ~ Seems to be where we're headed.
http://www.seastarsolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/SeaStar-XtremeJackplates-DataSheet.pdf
Since I'm currently running SeaStar Steering, this one is designed to maximize engine tilt when used with SeaStar steering cylinders.
More to follow . . . .
A-Jay
On 12/7/2018 at 3:32 AM, Jeff Browning said:AJ - noticed you don’t have a jack plate. If you were building the boat again would you get one? Seems like a good place to mount the Talons vs the brackets. How do you like them? With spot lock would you buy shallow water anchors again?
Jeff
@Jeff Browning ~ I was initially considering adding a hydraulic jack plate. Rethought it and went with a 6" manual model. http://www.seastarsolutions.com/products/seastar-jackplates/#jackplatemanuals
I do not ever travel on plane in skinny enough water to justify the adjustable model - especially considering the extra gear required. Did want to move the motor back a little though so this fits the bill. So far it's been a nice addition.
As for the Talons - I love them. Additionally when I planned, purchased & initially rigged this ride, ( Early 2016)
the Ultrex had not yet appeared on the scene. Had it been available, I'd have purchased one. I'd still use the talons for water 10 feet & shallower but the spot lock would be a nice addition for the deeper stuff. Just not ready to rip off a two year old 112 Fortrex and re-rig the 360 quite yet, not to mention the 3K plus it would cost to make that little upgrade.
A-Jay
Here's a two year review I did of the rig this summer.
slonezp reply :
On 12/7/2018 at 3:32 AM, Jeff Browning said:AJ - noticed you don’t have a jack plate. If you were building the boat again would you get one? Seems like a good place to mount the Talons vs the brackets. How do you like them? With spot lock would you buy shallow water anchors again?
Jeff
I have both a Terrova with spot lock and a Talon. One does not replace the other
Jeff Browning reply :
Do you spin on 1 Talon? I live near the Ohio Rive and spend a decent amount of time there. I see a lot of boats sold with one anchor - I’ve been curious how they work in the wind/current.
AJ - what did you gain by moving the motor back 6”?
A-Jay reply :
On 12/7/2018 at 10:51 AM, Jeff Browning said:Do you spin on 1 Talon? I live near the Ohio Rive and spend a decent amount of time there. I see a lot of boats sold with one anchor - I’ve been curious how they work in the wind/current.
AJ - what did you gain by moving the motor back 6”?
One Talon is just a pivot point - where two offers a bit more stability.
Same thing applies with a standard anchor. One is good - two is better.
Jack plate provides some space between the lower unit and the SI transducer as well as offering a bit of performance improvement. Hull comes up on plane faster and will stay on plane at a lower speed.
A-Jay
slonezp reply :
On 12/7/2018 at 10:51 AM, Jeff Browning said:Do you spin on 1 Talon? I live near the Ohio Rive and spend a decent amount of time there. I see a lot of boats sold with one anchor - I’ve been curious how they work in the wind/current.
AJ - what did you gain by moving the motor back 6”?
With 1 Talon your stern needs to be facing upriver. You can use the trolling motor to pivot on the anchor and fish perpendicular to the current. A single Talon will hold in what I call "fishable" current. It won't hold in heavy current on a hard bottom. It will on a soft bottom. I don't know if 2 would be any better in heavy current.
As far as wind and 1 Talon, it's going to be similar to current using the TM and Talon in conjunction with each other.
The only scenario I can think of that would require 2 Talons is bed fishing in current and wind.
A-Jay reply :
On 12/7/2018 at 11:31 AM, slonezp said:With 1 Talon your stern needs to be facing upriver. You can use the trolling motor to pivot on the anchor and fish perpendicular to the current. A single Talon will hold in what I call "fishable" current. It won't hold in heavy current on a hard bottom. It will on a soft bottom. I don't know if 2 would be any better in heavy current.
As far as wind and 1 Talon, it's going to be similar to current using the TM and Talon in conjunction with each other.
The only scenario I can think of that would require 2 Talons is bed fishing in current and wind.
Yup ~
And I'd be very careful placing the stern of any vessel into even a moderate 'current' - I'd never recommend that in a river. Ever - Big No-No. With a Talon and especially with a regular anchor rig. Other than forgetting the boat plug - it's fastest way to fill your rig with water & even capsize it.
A-Jay
Further North reply :
On 12/7/2018 at 8:25 AM, slonezp said:I have both a Terrova with spot lock and a Talon. One does not replace the other
Interesting...can you expand on that?
...never mind...saw what I wanted further down...
Edited by Further NorthMoron sum et non legere totum hunc locum priusquam missae.
slonezp reply :
On 12/8/2018 at 12:34 PM, Further North said:Interesting...can you expand on that?
...never mind...saw what I wanted further down...
I use spot lock usually for a vertical presentation in deep water with no current and no wind. If there's light current or light wind, I will use cruise control. I can set the cruise control speed to .1mph and set the direction. As long as there are not irregular wind gusts, this works better than spot lock because the motor doesn't need to keep correcting itself. (Note: I have the old version of the GPS head on the Terrova. The latest version is supposed to be 10x better than the gen 1 and the spot lock far superior) If the current is medium or higher, I can set the cruise control to equal the speed of the drift. This will ensure a vertical presentation. Once the drift is complete, I'll head up current and do it again.
and a Talon is a shallow water anchor....
J Francho reply :
On 12/8/2018 at 10:47 PM, slonezp said:Once the drift is complete, I'll head up current and do it again.
Sounds a lot like back-trolling, but more efficient.
12poundbass reply :
On 12/10/2018 at 10:19 PM, J Francho said:Sounds a lot like back-trolling, but more efficient.
What he explained is what they do on the Detroit river when the walleye are in there. They'll be lined up like an assembly line. A recipe for disaster and hot heads if you ask me, but there's big numbers in there, and giants too if you're after them.
J Francho reply :
I've seen walleye runs in spring. It's amazing. They're off limits here, though.
Jeff Browning reply :
Okay - this is a newbie question but here goes...
I’m building my Lund Pro V Bass...options and such...what exactly is a jack plate for? I get that you moved your motor back to allow clearance for the SI transducer, but other then your example; I see them (hydraulic and manual) installed on boats all the time. I’ve yet to meet anyone who’s actually used the hydraulic one except for messing around with it. The manual ones make no sense to me except for making the motor as A-jay did. It doesn’t seem realistic to think a buy would jump I the back, raise his motor, and then lower it again just for clearance. How much time would that take anyway. I guess I’m trying to make the best decision I can with the limited experience and info I have. Please guide me...
A-Jay reply :
On 1/2/2019 at 7:53 AM, Jeff Browning said:Okay - this is a newbie question but here goes...
I’m building my Lund Pro V Bass...options and such...what exactly is a jack plate for? I get that you moved your motor back to allow clearance for the SI transducer, but other then your example; I see them (hydraulic and manual) installed on boats all the time. I’ve yet to meet anyone who’s actually used the hydraulic one except for messing around with it. The manual ones make no sense to me except for making the motor as A-jay did. It doesn’t seem realistic to think a buy would jump I the back, raise his motor, and then lower it again just for clearance. How much time would that take anyway. I guess I’m trying to make the best decision I can with the limited experience and info I have. Please guide me...
@Jeff Browning ~ I'll add this - While running the original 200 hp Optimax with no jack plate - THE BOAT RAN AWESOME ! Popped up on plane in what seemed like 2 seconds, was Extremely stable on plane AND AT WOT and was in every respect EVERYTHING I wanted & needed it to be and more.
And now with the re-power and the manual jack plate - everything is exactly THE SAME. I just got the space.
My needs have been successfully addressed.
So IMO, unless you can consciously articulate exactly WHY you Need a Jack Plate on the Pro-V bass - You Don't.
However - if you can - I'd go for the newer V8 Pro XS -IMO there is a difference there.
It's quieter, sips Less Gas and may come with a better warranty.
Good Luck
A-Jay
Jeff Browning reply :
Definitely getting the Pro XS, never considered anything else after I decided to go with the brand new, configured to my wants/needs boat. Local club guys here say not to get talons or poles that the water we fish “isn’t deep enough, often enough to justify them”...I only had a 175 TXW before now, but I remember several instances when my TM was kicking up mud, and when the skeg on my motor drug bottom and I had to trim it up and use the push pole. Other instances where it was so windy that only the co—angler fished “the spot” because it was all I could do to keep my boat off the rip rap. Anchors would have been awesome that day and in the Ohio in all that current...never considered NOT getting them. Always thought the jack plate was a good place to mount them though. Didn’t like the idea of more holes in the transom; but that was the only reason I could come up with for needing a jackal plate. I never thought of space for the SI, which the motor did interfere with. Then again, I am new to bass fishing. Being from AK I’m used to wading rivers and creeks or drifting...
A-Jay reply :
On 1/2/2019 at 8:44 AM, Jeff Browning said:Definitely getting the Pro XS, never considered anything else after I decided to go with the brand new, configured to my wants/needs boat. Local club guys here say not to get talons or poles that the water we fish “isn’t deep enough, often enough to justify them”...I only had a 175 TXW before now, but I remember several instances when my TM was kicking up mud, and when the skeg on my motor drug bottom and I had to trim it up and use the push pole. Other instances where it was so windy that only the co—angler fished “the spot” because it was all I could do to keep my boat off the rip rap. Anchors would have been awesome that day and in the Ohio in all that current...never considered NOT getting them. Always thought the jack plate was a good place to mount them though. Didn’t like the idea of more holes in the transom; but that was the only reason I could come up with for needing a jackal plate. I never thought of space for the SI, which the motor did interfere with. Then again, I am new to bass fishing. Being from AK I’m used to wading rivers and creeks or drifting...
Sounds Good Jeff,
I am not new to boat handling or bass fishing.
I have twin 12 ft Talons.
They are mounted securely(back plated) directly to the transom - no problems.
I fish a variety of habitats; from super deep to fairly shallow and pretty much everything in between.
I use my Talons ALL THE TIME.
They are as important to me as my Fortrex.
Besides actually fishing, they are very helpful launch & recovering the Pro-V solo - for me that's all the time.
I would Not EVER own a bass boat without them.
Once you fish with them, you'll wonder how you ever did it without them.
I say - get them.
And now's the time to do it.
You'll be very glad you did.
(And you'll be taking that local club guys $$$ regularly too)
OK so there ya go ~ I said my piece -
YMMV
Good Luck
A-Jay
slonezp reply :
On 1/2/2019 at 7:53 AM, Jeff Browning said:Okay - this is a newbie question but here goes...
I’m building my Lund Pro V Bass...options and such...what exactly is a jack plate for? I get that you moved your motor back to allow clearance for the SI transducer, but other then your example; I see them (hydraulic and manual) installed on boats all the time. I’ve yet to meet anyone who’s actually used the hydraulic one except for messing around with it. The manual ones make no sense to me except for making the motor as A-jay did. It doesn’t seem realistic to think a buy would jump I the back, raise his motor, and then lower it again just for clearance. How much time would that take anyway. I guess I’m trying to make the best decision I can with the limited experience and info I have. Please guide me...
Guys get hydraulic jack plates who run extremely shallow water. When you get on the throttle to take off, the stern of the boat wants to dig down while the bow rides up. I have a Lund as well and if I'm in less than 2-1/2'-3' of water, I need to run slow until I get into deeper water prior to jumping on plane. A hydraulic jack plate allows you to raise the motor straight up rather than tilt it out and the ability to get on plane in shallower water.
J Francho reply :
My Bullet has a 15" setback manual jackplate. It took some dialing in, but it is set about 1" above pad, and along with the Barry's plate aluminum hydrofoil, I have great holeshots, and plane around 16-17 mph. I do not need to adjust it, since it's performing as I want now. The hull on my boat pretty much predicates a jackplate. The amount of set back and prop height are variables in performance. I'm getting added lift, and top end speed by using one.
Again, these are a per boat set up - every boat is different. I'm just explaining why someone would use a manaul jack plate. A-Jay and slonezp gave you some good advice about Lunds. Lund will likely be my next boat as well.
Jeff Browning reply :
So - one last question (I hope) if I knew how to PM I wouldn’t clog up the board, but...which TM shaft length for the ProV Bass; 60” or 52”? I may get to Erie once or twice a year, the other lakes are not as big. What are your thoughts? I was all set on Ultrex an then I saw Linder using an Ulterra with the ability to trim up and down and thought....maybe...
I don’t want to waste money on the wrong one since they are thousands. It seems that walleye guys love the Ulterra and Bass guys the Ultrex. I primarily chase bass on inland lakes, but I wouldn’t rule out Walleye, just need to learn how to do it.
A-Jay reply :
On 1/3/2019 at 10:10 AM, Jeff Browning said:So - one last question (I hope) if I knew how to PM I wouldn’t clog up the board, but...which TM shaft length for the ProV Bass; 60” or 52”? I may get to Erie once or twice a year, the other lakes are not as big. What are your thoughts? I was all set on Ultrex an then I saw Linder using an Ulterra with the ability to trim up and down and thought....maybe...
I don’t want to waste money on the wrong one since they are thousands. It seems that walleye guys love the Ulterra and Bass guys the Ultrex. I primarily chase bass on inland lakes, but I wouldn’t rule out Walleye, just need to learn how to do it.
Which motor / model to purchase is an important decision and one that should be made carefully.
'Knowledge is confidence" - learn all you can about each - and you'll feel much better making your choice.
I run a 62 inch 36 volt 112 Fortrex. The whole thing is manual - no spot lock, no power deploy or power trim.
I have a 360 imaging unit mounted on Fortrex as well.
That extra shaft length is most useful in sloppy conditions, keeping the motor & both transducers in the drink (mostly) and is never 'too long'.
I do know that there are a few Pro-V bass owners who seem happy with a 52" shaft.
Below is a couple of video's I did two years apart talking about the boat, motor & accessories.
Might help.
Good Luck and ask anything that comes to mind - I did plenty of that during my own 'research stage'.
Besides, that's what this site & forum are all about - sharing info.
Good Luck.
A-Jay
Further North reply :
On 1/3/2019 at 10:10 AM, Jeff Browning said:So - one last question (I hope) if I knew how to PM I wouldn’t clog up the board, but...which TM shaft length for the ProV Bass; 60” or 52”? I may get to Erie once or twice a year, the other lakes are not as big. What are your thoughts? I was all set on Ultrex an then I saw Linder using an Ulterra with the ability to trim up and down and thought....maybe...
I don’t want to waste money on the wrong one since they are thousands. It seems that walleye guys love the Ulterra and Bass guys the Ultrex. I primarily chase bass on inland lakes, but I wouldn’t rule out Walleye, just need to learn how to do it.
I love my Ulterra for that ability to trim up/down....and for Follow the Contour, and "set it ind forget it" directional movement, particularly into, or across wind or current. I don't use spot lock as much as I thought I would, but when I do, it's awesome.
Others have other preferences, but few have tried them all (including me).
It really comes down to how you fish, not what anyone else does. That's important...
Edited by Further NorthCzułem się jak to. I jest sobota. W styczniu.
northlander73 reply :
I went form an Ulterra to an Ultrex with a 60" shaft. The trim up and down was great in open water but if you fish in heavy slop the ultrex is way easier to clear a pile of weeds from. That was the main reason I switched. If you're an open water fisherman the Ulterra can't be beat.
Jeff Browning reply :
What makes the Ulterra so hard to clear weeds from vs the Ultrex? I love the auto trim/stow etc features but there are a few places that get pretty weedy it’s still so early on and no matter which TM I choose it will be a dealer item so I “have time” to make the decision. I’ve only ever had the Edge and I have no experience with anything else. The guys in my club have Ultrex’s but I suspect that’s because their Skeeters came with them.
northlander73 reply :
I could hear the trim working hard when there was a big ball of weeds from fishing in the slop. Then you have to hang over the side to get them off. Someone else may have a faster way to clear them that I'm not aware of. With the ultrex I can clear most of the weeds by pulling up partway and turning back and forth and I'm back fishing.
Way north bass guy reply :
On 1/10/2019 at 5:12 AM, northlander73 said:I could hear the trim working hard when there was a big ball of weeds from fishing in the slop. Then you have to hang over the side to get them off. Someone else may have a faster way to clear them that I'm not aware of. With the ultrex I can clear most of the weeds by pulling up partway and turning back and forth and I'm back fishing.
Get yourself a ninja grass blade. I have one on my Terrova and it works fantastic. The thickest weeds I can find aren’t much of an issue at all anymore. It’ll cut most of the stuff right off the motor, I hardly ever have to reach down and clear it anymore.
TnRiver46 reply :
On 1/2/2019 at 9:57 PM, J Francho said:My Bullet has a 15" setback manual jackplate. It took some dialing in, but it is set about 1" above pad, and along with the Barry's plate aluminum hydrofoil, I have great holeshots, and plane around 16-17 mph. I do not need to adjust it, since it's performing as I want now. The hull on my boat pretty much predicates a jackplate. The amount of set back and prop height are variables in performance. I'm getting added lift, and top end speed by using one.
Again, these are a per boat set up - every boat is different. I'm just explaining why someone would use a manaul jack plate. A-Jay and slonezp gave you some good advice about Lunds. Lund will likely be my next boat as well.
A Lake Ontario fisherman with a boat made in Tennessee?? When I fished my first tournament everyone’s advice was “if the boat says bullet on the side, don’t get in it!” Needless to say nobody beats those boats to the spot
J Francho reply :
There's quite a few Bullets up this way. Keep in mind, there's 20 lakes an hour and a half drive from to access as well. Mine is definitely not the fastest. It was the fastest in my club, though. It was pretty funny when I'd draw last on a bigger lake, like Cayuga, and pass everyone on the way to a spot. My favorite thing about that boat though ,was the huge front deck. My co-anglers could easily fish up front with me, which I think was a bigger advantage than speed. Anyway, we're going off topic, this all about A-Jay's tin can!
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Fishingmickey reply :
On 9/1/2018 at 4:51 AM, A-Jay said:Good idea and probably requires less funding than a new motor & jack plate.
**** Update ****
Dealer called. Service department's two-blocked for coming week.
Next available time slot for the re-power is the week after next.
So mid-September now. Still at least 30 days earlier than expected.
In the mean time, guess I just have to keep picking off those brown bass, for a couple more weeks anyway.
Jack plate's ordered.
A-Jay
Love that sailor terminology A-Jay!
Further North reply :
On 1/10/2019 at 8:12 AM, Way north bass guy said:Get yourself a ninja grass blade. I have one on my Terrova and it works fantastic. The thickest weeds I can find aren’t much of an issue at all anymore. It’ll cut most of the stuff right off the motor, I hardly ever have to reach down and clear it anymore.
That's it, right there. I went with the two blade set-up, haven't had a problem since.
A-Jay reply :
Sort of an update; perhaps more of a clarification.
Mercury recently sent me the extended warranty information & pricing for the 200 Optimax -
That I sold last fall. Not exactly timely.
Either way, the paperwork is rather complete and does answer any & all questions I might have had regarding the decision to purchase an extended warranty - if I still had that motor.
Prior to the re-power I had already found this info and it played a fairly big role in why I made the choice to do it in the first place.
In my initial post
I had mentioned that the cost of the warranty was close to what I'd end up paying for the new motor after the trade in of the old one. I'll admit that I may have been bitten by the new motor monkey a little on that one.
The new motor was 17K. I got 10K for the old one. I paid the difference of 7k.
Looking at the attached current extended warranty pricing, the 5-year plan (which happens to be the warranty on the new motor) is running at $5,785. So the difference between the warranty for a three-year-old motor vs the $$ spent on a new one with a 5-year warranty - was a tad over $1,200.
So using A-Jay / new motor monkey math, that's $240 a year; for a new motor.
I'm putting this out there simply as an FYI - anyone in a similar situation - might be something to think about.
A-Jay
J Francho reply :
On 3/19/2019 at 4:34 AM, A-Jay said:So using A-Jay / new motor monkey math, that's $240 a year; for a new motor.
$20 a month? Done!
Tim Kelly reply :
I'm just back from a moderately expensive trip to Holland which the weather spoiled, only allowing us to fish on one day. The guy I went with bought a load of expensive lures at a Dutch tackle shop, which were half price. He was telling me all the way home how much he had saved........
A-Jay reply :
On 3/21/2019 at 6:36 AM, Tim Kelly said:I'm just back from a moderately expensive trip to Holland which the weather spoiled, only allowing us to fish on one day. The guy I went with bought a load of expensive lures at a Dutch tackle shop, which were half price. He was telling me all the way home how much he had saved........
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Welcome back ~ Seems you did OK Tim.
That is one of if not the Prettiest Pike I've ever seen ~ What Beast !
Congrats
A-Jay
Further North reply :
Beefy girl, there! Nice pike.
Tim Kelly reply :
On 3/21/2019 at 6:42 AM, A-Jay said:Welcome back ~ Seems you did OK Tim.
That is one of if not the Prettiest Pike I've ever seen ~ What Beast !
Congrats
A-Jay
Ha ha, thanks AJ. A friend of mine, fishing not that far away had a 6lb 10oz perch the same day! Unbelievable fish.
A-Jay reply :
A-Jay
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