Launching at Lake Casitas in California. What's next, a body cavity search?
http://www.lakecasitas.info/documents/QuaggaVesselInspectionChecklist-020408.pdf
http://www.lakecasitas.info/fishing.html
I would imagine that since the lake has givin up so many world class bass, and could probablly be holding a potential world record they are trying their best to keep the enviorment of that lake clean and stable. The locals didnt seem to mind 8-)
I met a guy who said it was due to quagga issues, he said he didnt have to take everything out his boat but he just wanted to make sure he passed with flying colors
I fail to see what the problem is. Trying to keep the introduction of species hostile to any existing aquatic environment should be of prime importance to the Wildlife and Fisheries Department of every State.
Has anyone paid attention to the promulgation of the Zebra Mussel?
Yea I found a solution ; Put em in tomato sauce and pour it over linguni
Major problem on great lakes, they filter all the nutrients out of the water, no plankton, no minows end result no fish!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can't get it to play.
When I go to a certain Army post my car is inspected very throughly by armed men and women.
No problem.
If we are going to have body searches can Muddy and I do them? Sounds like a lot of fun. ;D
QuoteI fail to see what the problem is. Trying to keep the introduction of species hostile to any existing aquatic environment should be of prime importance to the Wildlife and Fisheries Department of every State.Has anyone paid attention to the promulgation of the Zebra Mussel?
I agree, you can never be too precautious. One introduced species can be detrimental to a lake and that would be a shame, especially to a great lake like Casitas
Seems like I got deleted again ..................
my comment was "Apparantly they are trying to keep out foreign flora and fauna
then I had a picture of Jessica Simpson in a bikini with the caption "Meet Flora" 8-)
I don't see anything wrong with that, if they're trying to protect our environment and not stop you from fishing then give them a few minutes of your time.
Around here we've had a couple of ponds destroyed by invasive weeds and they no longer hold decent amounts of fish.
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I guess I didnt pay attention enough to what was said in the video, I can understand about the not transfering invasive species to new lakes.
This issue has gone way overboard. I agree invasive species are dangerous. There is an acceptable amount of caution, and these guys have gone way beyond that.
I know of a guy who lives 3 miles from that lake. He cleaned his boat immaculately and it was bone dry when he got there. During the inspection they found a leaf, 1 leaf, on the guys carpet. he is now banned from lake casitas for 28 days for a leaf. He fishes there almost daily.
These private party water nazis are systematically banning us from our own resources. Many lakes have the inspections in place, some ban out of state and socal boats completely, some have reduced to only being open 3 days a week, and some have completely banned boats.
It is becoming VERY ugly, VERY quickly. I hate this bureaucratic, backwards A$$, self serving, right infringing, expensive, they call California!
QuoteThis issue has gone way overboard. I agree invasive species are dangerous. There is an acceptable amount of caution, and these guys have gone way beyond that.I know of a guy who lives 3 miles from that lake. He cleaned his boat immaculately and it was bone dry when he got there. During the inspection they found a leaf, 1 leaf, on the guys carpet. he is now banned from lake casitas for 28 days for a leaf. He fishes there almost daily.
These private party water nazis are systematically banning us from our own resources. Many lakes have the inspections in place, some ban out of state and socal boats completely, some have reduced to only being open 3 days a week, and some have completely banned boats.
It is becoming VERY ugly, VERY quickly. I hate this bureaucratic, backwards ., self serving, right infringing, expensive, they call California!
Its been a while, but I agree with what he said. Every stinkin word.
QuoteThese private party water nazis are systematically banning us from our own resources.
Stop repressing your feelings biz
Living on the Saginaw Bay part of the Great Lakes zebra mussels have changed the fishing even in the short amount of years I've been fishing it. While the numbers of walleyes seems to be up, the size is far, far down from what it used to be. I remember when I was about five going out with my dad and his friends and catching large numbers of large fish, now it's just large numbers of eaters, which there is nothing wrong with good eating fish, sometimes you just wanna catch a biggin.
QuoteThis issue has gone way overboard. I agree invasive species are dangerous. There is an acceptable amount of caution, and these guys have gone way beyond that.I know of a guy who lives 3 miles from that lake. He cleaned his boat immaculately and it was bone dry when he got there. During the inspection they found a leaf, 1 leaf, on the guys carpet. he is now banned from lake casitas for 28 days for a leaf. He fishes there almost daily.
These private party water nazis are systematically banning us from our own resources. Many lakes have the inspections in place, some ban out of state and socal boats completely, some have reduced to only being open 3 days a week, and some have completely banned boats.
It is becoming VERY ugly, VERY quickly. I hate this bureaucratic, backwards ., self serving, right infringing, expensive, they call California!
Not to sound dumb, but what harm could be caused by the introduction of a leaf into a lake? Dont leaves blow into lakes from surrounding trees all the time?
QuoteQuoteThis issue has gone way overboard. I agree invasive species are dangerous. There is an acceptable amount of caution, and these guys have gone way beyond that.I know of a guy who lives 3 miles from that lake. He cleaned his boat immaculately and it was bone dry when he got there. During the inspection they found a leaf, 1 leaf, on the guys carpet. he is now banned from lake casitas for 28 days for a leaf. He fishes there almost daily.
These private party water nazis are systematically banning us from our own resources. Many lakes have the inspections in place, some ban out of state and socal boats completely, some have reduced to only being open 3 days a week, and some have completely banned boats.
It is becoming VERY ugly, VERY quickly. I hate this bureaucratic, backwards ., self serving, right infringing, expensive, they call California!
Not to sound dumb, but what harm could be caused by the introduction of a leaf into a lake? Dont leaves blow into lakes from surrounding trees all the time?
That leaf, depending on where it came from and what it had contact with, could carry any number of different invasive species that DNR is trying to keep out of a fishery.
That is their line of thinking....
QuoteQuoteI fail to see what the problem is. Trying to keep the introduction of species hostile to any existing aquatic environment should be of prime importance to the Wildlife and Fisheries Department of every State.Has anyone paid attention to the promulgation of the Zebra Mussel?
I agree, you can never be too precautious. One introduced species can be detrimental to a lake and that would be a shame, especially to a great lake like Casitas
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QuoteI know of a guy who lives 3 miles from that lake. He cleaned his boat immaculately and it was bone dry when he got there. During the inspection they found a leaf, 1 leaf, on the guys carpet. he is now banned from lake casitas for 28 days for a leaf. He fishes there almost daily.
Thats just nuts!
QuoteQuoteI know of a guy who lives 3 miles from that lake. He cleaned his boat immaculately and it was bone dry when he got there. During the inspection they found a leaf, 1 leaf, on the guys carpet. he is now banned from lake casitas for 28 days for a leaf. He fishes there almost daily.
Thats just nuts!
Now that's something i don't agree with....I do however like how they are trying to protect that lake,but come on over a leaf somebody gets banned? At first i wasn't sure why people were making such a big deal over the inspections,but now i see why.
Whats the griping all about? 28 days of lake probation, big deal.
In a reverse.....
In Texas, its a $2000 fine for each separate piece of hyrdrilla.
Don't drive from the parking lot before a thorough check.
Lake Casitas is privately ran by the Casitas Municipal Water District. The staff member you saw checking boats is an employee of the water district, not the state.
I have been through that checkpoint, and just this week I have had to cancel a trip planned for march.
The East Bay Municipal Utility District runs multiple lakes in my immediate area. One of which they just closed down 4 days out of the week.
Blah Blah
As for our bass factory, the bureaucrats have no interest in fishing, and are systematically eliminating us from OUR resources for their own interest. Most of the steps taken have absolutely no intentions of protecting our fishing.
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Now on the other hand...... the zebras have dramatically cleared up the Ohio river, enough so that we had a bumper crop of grass and such along the banks this year for the first time in my life time. Great place for the minnows, etc to hide and the bass to feed. You have several feet of visabliity for the first time I can recall other then drought conditions. Very useful little creatures in out neck of the woods. They filter their weight 9 times a day. That is alot of river crap!
All off topic bashing has been edited.
The "lamprey eel" was the first drama to play out in the Great Lakes. In the late 60s, fully 2/3 of all the pike I caught
had elongated sores caused by this parasitic eel. The DNR painted a bleak picture which in turn alarmed the fishing community.
Long story short, we all over-reacted and today the lamprey eel no longer dominates the conversation of Great Lakes fishermen.
As soon as the lamprey eel took a backseat, the "zebra mussel" scare was launched, introduced through ballast water.
We were warned that this was far more serious than the lamprey debacle!
But once again Mother Nature took the reins, and the grievous warnings slowly began to ring just a little hollower.
The problem early-on was that game fish did not ingest zebra mussels allowing them to burgeon out-of-control.
Eventually, game fish acquired an appetite for zebra mussels, which they now heavily consume.
The Lake Erie fishery for smallmouth bass and walleyes is probably as good today as it's ever been.
In May, 2007, the winning stringer for the FLW Walleye League was 28 lb 2 oz, that's an average 5 lb 10 oz walleye!
Back to the point:
I live a looong way from California, so I know next to nothing about their political aspirations.
It is true however, that there's no shortage of instances where selfish interest groups will exploit an opportunity
to champion their own selfish end. Over the long haul I'm sure that justice will prevail...it usually does.
Roger