Man Made Resevour Dries and lowers, help 2024
Del from philly reply :
a man made lake i fish every now and then has dryed up to the point of lowering a good 20 feet.
this is a lake with the biggest bass, but also the most careful and reserved
The good news is you can now cast from anywhere, their used to be trees blocking everything
my question is, is their any tricks or ways to fish after a lake has lowered? anything i should know?
i went out yesterday and didnt catch squat on my regular plastics and harbodys...
finally a put on a descent size in line spinner and almost got in a 3lber.....the treble hoook was too small i think for a good hoook-in
but that was the only action....
any ideas.....im exscited because i can finally fish anywhere i want without any trees in the way
32251 reply :
Good time to make some notes on where things will be when the water levels come back up.
Low_Budget_Hooker reply :
QuoteGood time to make some notes on where things will be when the water levels come back up.
Yup, start taking mental pictures. The fish will be in the deeper parts the majority of the day. Find the creek channels and the holes that still have an exit out of them.
Matt Fly reply :
I don't wish drought upon anyone, but when lakes get that low, I take the opportunity to scout them out for new areas.
I look for ditches or small guts that can be only 1ft deep or deeper. Older lakes are void and baron alot of times. These ditches make for great travel to and from spawning or feeding flats. A liitle bend can be the sweet spot that very few have seen, and when you add some stump, tire, old foundation pieces, or anything they can hang out next two. I have dug a 4x4 hole 18 inches deep and used the dirt as humps next to the hole and have great success when it comes to reaping the rewards of extra work.
A little contour or cover can hold lots of fish.
Matt
ThomasL reply :
We have a three acre pond that was once a mill pond and the water has come down quite a bit,i took this opportunity to pour a bit of concrete where i put my one man boat and then poured sand over that so that i can get out and step on sand instead of sinking in silt and mud.I also took a shovel and rake and made between 10-12 holes and ditches so when the water rises back up i'll have some deeper holes near shore for bass and others to get into.Let me tell you this though,this is tough work,a shovel full of muck and water is not light and in 90+ degree heat will wear you out fast esp when you have heart problems! :oThis was a good time also to pull some of the limbs and sticks out to keep from breaking lures off so much.Them little muskrats don't help much either dragging them in, 22 practice time! ;D
Tokyo Tony reply :
I've been night fishing at a reservoir in CT (where you're not allowed to fish :-?) for the past couple of weeks, and the water level is down about 10 feet. My brother and I have been sneaking out there and absolutely slamming them - by far the best bass fishing I've ever experienced. The second night, the first three fish I caught were 5 lb LMB, 4.4 lb smallie, then 4 lb LMB - pretty awesome for CT. Those three were nabbed on a black Lucky Craft sammy, with the jointed tail (an awesome topwater if you haven't tried it - but it cost me about 20 bucks). We have not gone out there without catching at least a couple bass in the 3.5-4 lb class, and when they're smallies it's even more fun.
Anyway, the best place we've found, given that the water is so low, is right where it drops off from a shallow cove area. This area is now only about 1-2 feet deep, but it drops down to about 6 feet off the ledge. It seems like the fish are just traveling in and out of the cove because we're casting to the same area for most of each night and keep getting hits. So I'd say look for drop-offs from shallow areas. Also, I was surprised by how shallow some of the bigger fish would go to eat. Some of the big fish we caught were in less than a foot of water, probably chasing baitfish or lookin for craws right up against the rocky shore. We even hooked into a couple pike.
In a way I wish we were allowed to fish there, so we could go out during the day, but on the other hand, I'm glad it's restricted because that's why the fishing is so good.
Anyway, you guys know where I'll be each night until it gets too cold....
joez2872-ct reply :
ah a fellow ct,er //// i myself from ct but i wouldnt brag about fishing in spots were u are not supposed to fish we all have done it at sum pointn m but dont post it , but i think i know the res you are talking about ,but the ponds i go 2 iam banging them 2 well good luck and be safe and on the look out for the dep ;D 8-)gamewardens
QuoteI've been night fishing at a reservoir in CT (where you're not allowed to fish :-?) for the past couple of weeks, and the water level is down about 10 feet. My brother and I have been sneaking out there and absolutely slamming them - by far the best bass fishing I've ever experienced. The second night, the first three fish I caught were 5 lb LMB, 4.4 lb smallie, then 4 lb LMB - pretty awesome for CT. Those three were nabbed on a black Lucky Craft sammy, with the jointed tail (an awesome topwater if you haven't tried it - but it cost me about 20 bucks). We have not gone out there without catching at least a couple bass in the 3.5-4 lb class, and when they're smallies it's even more fun.Anyway, the best place we've found, given that the water is so low, is right where it drops off from a shallow cove area. This area is now only about 1-2 feet deep, but it drops down to about 6 feet off the ledge. It seems like the fish are just traveling in and out of the cove because we're casting to the same area for most of each night and keep getting hits. So I'd say look for drop-offs from shallow areas. Also, I was surprised by how shallow some of the bigger fish would go to eat. Some of the big fish we caught were in less than a foot of water, probably chasing baitfish or lookin for craws right up against the rocky shore. We even hooked into a couple pike.
In a way I wish we were allowed to fish there, so we could go out during the day, but on the other hand, I'm glad it's restricted because that's why the fishing is so good.
Anyway, you guys know where I'll be each night until it gets too cold....
iminsanenutz reply :
there is nothing wrong with saying you fish somewhere your not supposed to, as long as you dont say where it is..
fishing at those quarrys, and man made rock ponds are some of the BEST fishing spots for big bass and my favtorite spots to fish.
if i was aloud to fish at just one of the many illegal ponds i fish at id never have to fish anywhere.. simple as that, i could be happy all year round
Hookemdown. reply :
Definitely note the features of the bottom. You'll find some things that you never would have thought would be down there, which can really improve your fishing.
Quotethere is nothing wrong with saying you fish somewhere your not supposed to, as long as you dont say where it is..
ARE YOU SERIOUS?
So i guess it's ok if you go out and kill a guy as long as you don't say who it was.
Once again, I'm tired of these idiotic responses telling people it's ok to break the law.
PRIVATE MEANS PRIVATE! NO MEANS NO!
Some people just don't get it.
Gatorbassman reply :
Tokyo_Tony and iminsanenutz,
I can't believe what I am reading. Are you serious. This kind of crap infuriates me. It's crooks like you that give antis the ammunition they need to take away our way of life. I can't stand the total disregard for private property and posted land.
My father and I are owners of a fairly large piece of property. A few weeks ago I went out to check it and someone had cut a few trees down next to my gate so they could drive their four wheeler around it and use it like they owned it. Not only did they trespass on my property they also stole a 1200 dollar deer stand. This is the third stand that has been taken from me in the last several years and it is my property. I have to constantly check the boundaries for places that these crooks use to enter.
YOU DO NOT OWN THESE PLACES. YOU DO NOT PAY THE TAXES ON THEM. YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE THEM AS THOUGH THEY BELONG TO YOU. YOU ARE A THIEF AND YOU ARE STEALING FROM EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US. >
Johnnydel,
I am sorry I had to blow your thread up like that. Allow me to respond to your post.
Having low water in your lake isn't a bad thing. It gives you the opportunity to get a peice of paper and a camera and a GPS and make a detailed map of that lake. So when the water comes back up you know all the sweet spots like they were your living room.
Del from philly reply :
QuoteTokyo_Tony and iminsanenutz,I can't believe what I am reading. Are you serious. This kind of crap infuriates me. It's crooks like you that give antis the ammunition they need to take away our way of life. I can't stand the total disregard for private property and posted land.
My father and I are owners of a fairly large piece of property. A few weeks ago I went out to check it and someone had cut a few trees down next to my gate so they could drive their four wheeler around it and use it like they owned it. Not only did they trespass on my property they also stole a 1200 dollar deer stand. This is the third stand that has been taken from me in the last several years and it is my property. I have to constantly check the boundaries for places that these crooks use to enter.
YOU DO NOT OWN THESE PLACES. YOU DO NOT PAY THE TAXES ON THEM. YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE THEM AS THOUGH THEY BELONG TO YOU. YOU ARE A THIEF AND YOU ARE STEALING FROM EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US. >
Johnnydel,
I am sorry I had to blow your thread up like that. Allow me to respond to your post.
Having low water in your lake isn't a bad thing. It gives you the opportunity to get a peice of paper and a camera and a GPS and make a detailed map of that lake. So when the water comes back up you know all the sweet spots like they were your living room.
tell ya the truth, it just looks like a flat bottom with stones....no real holes or things of that nature
maybe the beach was first, then it came up, and now its back down.....
Gatorbassman reply :
Look for things like ditches, dropoffs, stumps, rocks, logs, brush, points, humps, and anything that is different from the majority of what is on the bottom. Details are what will make the difference once the water comes back up. It doesn't have to be much, just different. Take a picture of it and post it if you can.
roadwarrior reply :
Take all the rope in Texas
find a tall oak tree
Round up all of them bad boys
And hang 'em high in the street
for all the people to see
http://unattributed.net/html/whiskey.html
Tokyo Tony reply :
Sorry to reply to the issue created by my original post on this thread since it was not originally meant to be in regards to this topic, but I do need to reply.
I'm not fishing on anyone's private property - if I ever had such a desire I would get the owner's permission first, and I certainly would not harm that property in any way (cutting down trees, leaving trash or keeping fish - I've never kept a bass from anywhere).
Granted I'm not supposed to be fishing the place I have been fishing, so yes, technically I'm breaking the law, punishable by a fine which in my opinion would be worth it. Such a violation is not, by any stretch, analagous to killing someone.
Anyway, if you have a problem with the fact that I've been fishing a reservoir at night where I'm not supposed to fish, fine. I respect that. But keep in mind I'm not leaving any trash, keeping any fish, destroying any property, or hurting anyone or anything. I just love catching huge (for CT) bass, so don't equate me to a murderer or someone who destroys private property, please. What I'm doing may be illegal, but not immoral (according to my standards).
roadwarrior reply :
Sorry buddy, you don't get to decide which laws to obey.
You don't get any sympathy around here.
You are breaking the law.
We hope you are caught and prosecuted.
Tokyo Tony reply :
Actually, and with all due respect (I really enjoy your posts roadwarrior - I've learned a lot from them), I can choose which laws I decide to obey (I'm not above doing a "California roll" through the occasional stop sign, which is also against the law and punishable by a fine). However, I don't get to choose the ones for which I suffer the consequences if caught. And like I said, if I get caught, I'll pay the fine and know that it was worth it. The point of my last post was that illegally fishing a reservoir or rolling through a stop sign instead of coming to a complete stop do not make me a thief. I did take offense to that.
Gatorbassman reply :
Tony, you are a thief. You and people who think like you are the small percentage of fishermen that give the rest of us a bad name and reputation. You are taking away (stealing) opportunities for the rest of us who ask for permission. Land owners who have been violated by trespassers are less likely to give permission to us honest people. I don't care if the particular lake you are fishing is private or not. I don't believe you when you say you would respect it if it was private. You've already proven that you don't pay attention to signs if the fishing is good. The fact is that someone who is responsible for that lake doesn't want you fishing on it. So respect that and don't do it. It's not like rolling through a stop sign when nobody is coming. Running a stop sign doesn't have any effect on other people. Trespassing does.
Low_Budget_Hooker reply :
My turn. If it's not private land and it's a reservoir, my guess is that you are fishing in a public water supply. Nice going.
You may want to check your local laws regarding trespassing on the surrounding land. Since 9/11, in my state anyway, it's a much bigger deal to fish the reservoir. Before, they took your gear, fined you and you couldn't get a license in the state for 5 yrs (Not that I expect you went and bought a license) Nowadays, there is possible jail time and homeland security can put your family through the wringer should they chose to.
Test yourself, fish where everyone else does. That's one of the purposes of this board is to give guys like you the advice needed to catch fish in other places. You won't get kudos for pulling fish out of an "illegal barrel" here.
MattDPVN reply :
Everytime I found a "private pond", Ive asked the owners and got permission. Everyone is pretty nice, if you are to them.
Tokyo Tony reply :
Low_Budget - thanks for the info, I appreciate that. I have looked into the laws, it is punishable by a fine of up to $250. I will double check that, but I had no idea it was such a serious issue in some areas. And FYI, I always get a fishing license. I really don't understand why you and the other moderators have ripped into me so harshly - as if I'm a terrible person for fishing a reservoir when I'm not supposed to. Homeland security? Jail time? It seems like you're serious, but I'd like to emphasize what I've been doing: going fishing in a reservoir where I'm not supposed to fish. You guys obviously have a serious problem with that, and that's fine, I guess. But I don't understand why you have such a huge problem with that. It would have been fine to say something like, "You shouldn't be fishing there, I don't like that you do fish there illegally, I think you should stop," or some variety of that instead of calling me those things. I guess I'll get over it because I'm a big boy. And come on - homeland security? Let's get serious.
I don't know why you say that I wouldn't respect someone's private property. It just doesn't make sense man. How does fishing this place affect other people more than rolling through a stop sign, exactly? And I resent that you say I give other fishermen a bad name. I assure you, I don't, unless fishing this reservoir does that, in which case you're right. But I disagree. And how am I stealing opportunities from other fishermen? You can't just say these things and not explain. And I do fish the same lakes/ponds/rivers as everyone else 95% of the time. I just enjoy fishing this place because the fishing is way better, and you can't blame me for enjoying better fishing. You can blame me for fishing this particular place, and you have, and that's fine. But understand why I fish there: I love catching nice fish enough to tip the scales in favor of fishing the place instead of not, all things considered. Lastly, please explain how I am a thief.
So not one of you who has replied to me has EVER fished where you're not supposed to? Ever?
Del from philly reply :
I can totally see where your coming from, but you guys just took it a little too far.. :-?
i suggest a better way to teach somebody something, or to get them to see where your coming from, is to explain it to them with respect and dignity, not to just insult...
by insulting this guy, you just put him out on a raft by himself, instead of the possibility that maybe he will actually stop fishing in spots not meant to be fished because he understands....
now he is just on defence mode, his ears are no longer open, he just defending himself like a cornered animal....
He might have been raised that it wasnt a big deal, I know I was......my dad used to take me out fishing when i was little kid on a lake that was only meant to be fished on one side.....and me and dad on the other.....
also, this guy tony spoke like a gentlemen, and did not lash out or insult anyone. He handled it well enough were you could give him some slack
JUST HAVE AN OPEN MIND.......
Del from philly reply :
BACK TO THE TOPIC:
I finally found a lure that made them hit at the lowered lake...
spider parts by cabin creel lures
a type of crature bait with a jig head....
I got about 4 nice largemout, one over 3lbs with this bait,
but When i lost the lure, i was amazed to see that the bass woulnd t hit a regular kreature bait with a bullet weight in the front....(i was trying to imitate the spider lure)
they only hit the spider lure, i lityerly used about 15 lures that day, and finally after 2 hours, got 4 almost back to back with the spider lure
i was catching them about 10-20 feet from the shore....
i did what you guys said and found some areas and marked them....THANKS
Tokyo Tony reply :
Congrats on figuring out the fish there Johnnydel - that's always a nice feeling ;D I'd take a 3+ lber any day of the week.
Thanks for your response there also - I do feel like the moderators are teaming up on me without good cause. But, my ears are open, and I'm eagerly awaiting a response from them just explaining their claims against me. If they can logically explain how I'm a thief or how I'm harming anyone or anything then I promise I'll never fish there again. I just hope they read my posts carefully so that I don't have to repeat anything...
roadwarrior reply :
Here you go:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/illegal
Is there is some part of this you don't understand?
Tokyo Tony reply :
Roadwarrior, to answer your question, there is no part of "illegal" that I don't understand. Thanks for that link though, I did read through it to make sure I understand all of it.
If you read my previous posts, you will notice that whether what I did is illegal or not is not the question.
Del from philly reply :
QuoteRoadwarrior, to answer your question, there is no part of "illegal" that I don't understand. Thanks for that link though, I did read through it to make sure I understand all of it.If you read my previous posts, you will notice that whether what I did is illegal or not is not the question.
i would just drop the whole issue....anything illegal I try and keep to myself anyway
people are all very different, that is what is so cool..... we are like bass in different lakes....
I meen, i would laugh at people if they said this to me in real life.....and they would probably laugh at me....
it doesnt meen we cant come together and help each other figure out how to catch more bass, ya know
Gatorbassman reply :
We aren't ripping you as Mods. We are ripping you as fishermen. If you go back in the forums two or more years you will find a few posts where someone brags about tresspassing and you will see that we get real upset. If you haven't gotten it by now then there is no amount of explaining that I can do to help you understand. The only thing I ask is that when you get caught you make a post letting us know what happened.
Hookemdown. reply :
QuoteIf you read my previous posts, you will notice that whether what I did is illegal or not is not the question.
Johnnydel, I apologize for posting off topic, but I just have to say this.
NOTICE THAT I'M TYPING IN ALL CAPS. THIS MEANS THAT I AM EXTREAMLY ANGRY
LISTEN UP TOKYO_TONY!
You asked " how am I a thief"
Here's you answer. = do those fish belong to you? do you have a right to even fish at that spot?
If you answered "no" to those questions, then guess what? YOUR A THIEF Like RW said, you don't get to decide which rules you go by.
You also said "whether what I did or not is illegal is not the question" I'll have to disagree on that one, because I feel that it is definitely what we're talking about now.
Also, referring to LBH's mention to national security...IT'S A VERY BIG DEAL IN SOME PLACES! Messing around in the publics drinking supply can get you into a lot of trouble quick.
I was upset when you told us that you were trespassing. But what makes me angry is you thinking that you can live above the law. DO YOU THINK YOUR SPECIAL OR SOMETHIN?
Your an adult, i'm just a kid. But if I can understand that what you are doing is legally and morally wrong, why cant' you?
Low_Budget_Hooker reply :
Hookem, don't bother, you can't explain it if the basic tools to comprehend are not there. We couldn't even get past the definition of "illegal" :
You guys are entitled to your own opinions. The faults in your arguments are beyond obvious which leaves us to believe that this debate is merely to fulfill an attention need. Not gonna happen.....moving on...
related General Bass Fishing Forum topic
previous topic
most viewed General Bass Fishing Forum topic
© 2024 - fishing.qciss.net. All Rights Reserved.