But how are they going to see it? 2024
GorillaBass reply :
Sup guys ..
So as I'm learning and getting better at fishing.. not tooting my horn, but much better, thanks to my research, this site, and a few good friends showing me the ropes.. or my countless hours on the resevoir trying tried and true and ...absolutely stupid stuff just to see if it works?
anyway..
I try to think like a fish.
I have two fishfinders, great technology. I see TONS of great structure, I see TONS of 'fish' activity below me, so naturally i'm changing my tactics a bit to try to catch those deeper fish.. try..yeah, I said try.
So. My question. say... 10-20 feet+, I see great activity, likely deep suspending fish, on my way to buy a crankbait rod/reel combo as I learned.. I kinda like crankbaiting and for some reason I get great results.
The question: If the water is dark, after 3+ft .. and the bait, so a worm, jig, ect doesn't rattle.. how the hell are the bass supposed to see it? Can they see even if we cant? is it different when youre in the water? how would a deep worm in low vis catch a fish? something has to make noise, vibrate, what have you in order to attract them..
Why do I ask? so my arsenal of lures can be tailored around vibration, rather worms, jigs, ect .. remember, low visibility were talking
thanks for any and all advice.. you bro's help a lot.. some of you are kind of rude, but hey, w/e
12poundbass reply :
Their lateral line. They feel it.
GorillaBass reply :
say a floating worm though.. so a drop shot worm, a jig popping, they can feel that??
Team9nine reply :
Yep, every lure displaces a certain amount of water, some more than others, but fish can pick up (feel) that displacement and locate the source if given enough time, along with using any visual or auditory aids also.
GorillaBass reply :
wow.. thats crazy .. like, a worm just floats .. weird to think a bass will know it's there
Preytorien reply :
Yep, you'd be surprised at how well they can hone in on a lure, even in chocolate milk water. I've thrown some lures I didn't have much confidence in getting bit, and whaddya know they light it up. Like most predators their initial targeting sense is visual, but when the water is cloudy they rely heavily on their lateral line. That said, their eyesight is developed enough that even in water we consider dirty they can see pretty good, after all that's their environment, so even stained water will see the bass using visual cues to target food.
WRB reply :
Stop and think for a minute and ask yourself how can a bass find it's prey? The small bait fish are camouflage to help them hide, they don't make any audible sounds and the bass can find them at night! If a bass can't find food it starves.
Study bass behavior and learn about thier sensory ability, how they see, hear, feel and taste. Bass have big eyes located near the top of thier head, nostrils to detect odors at the front of the head, lateral line nerves exposed along the lateral line via pore scales making both side sensitive to water pressure waves similar to sound waves. Bass use all their senses to detect prey.
Tom
Raul reply :
The very first bass I caught in my life was by jerking a Rapala Original floating minnow in a pond where the water had like an inch of visibility, it was so muddy the lure was literally plowing the water.
So ---> Bass DON'T NEED TO SEE THE BAIT, in order to find it.
NCbassraider reply :
The Ned rig is a perfect example. It is a winner in deep, dark water and barely wiggles.
Tony L. reply :
The lateral line, for sure, just like everyone else has said. Also keep visual perspective in mind. You are looking down at your lure against the backdrop of the lake bottom. A suspending bass might very easily be seeing your lure from below, in which case it is silhouetted against the light of the sun, and a lot easier to see.
TOXIC reply :
The more of a bass' senses you can trigger the better. In low visibility conditions only one is eliminated....sight. They can still Feel the bait (lateral line), Hear the bait (rattles) and Smell/Taste the bait (scents). Bass have to eat or they die...period. Once 1 feeding method is removed, they rely on the others.
That's assuming that what you are seeing on your graphs are actually bass
Another fact to keep in mind is that "usually" muddy water will push bass shallow.
BassWhole! reply :
I once found myself fishing some ponds that had zero vis, they looked like someone had poured a cup of coffee with 2 creamers into a bowl of pea soup and stirred it around. All I had was a spinning rod and a pack of watermelon trick worms. I assumed I had to make as much of a ruckus as I could with the lure to have a chance. After about an hour or so of that without a bite, I casted out and started a conversation with someone who happened to come by. So I close the bail, and I'm just holding the rod, not facing the pond when like 10 seconds latter, I felt an unmistakeable bite. I assumed it was a fluke, and I had hit one on the head, but had to try to replicate it, so to make a long story short (too late) I caught several nice bass doing this for the next 2 hours or so. I don't know how these fish detected this subtle slowly falling lure, but they did. Always pays to think outside the box, and keep in mind that bass don't read.
Choporoz reply :
On 10/4/2017 at 12:08 AM, GorillaBass said:Can they see even if we cant?
That's a good question....not sure we're ever going to know for certain. Just like the color arguments. Until we get a hold of a talking bass, we are only going to be guessing at what a bass sees. My guess is that a bass can probably see better in any water condition than you and I can.
MIbassyaker reply :
Light is absorbed by water, but it penetrates deeper than you can see. The limit of depth you can see is actually the limit of distance light can travel down into the water and back before it is all absorbed. If you can see 6 feet down, for instance, that means you are seeing light that penetrates into the water 6 feet, and is reflected BACK through 6 more feet of water to your eyes. Even if the limit of visibility was 6 feet, light would still reach a bass 8 feet down...it just may not reach back to your eyes when reflected off the bass.
J Francho reply :
Simply put, a bass has bass eyes. You have human eyes. They aren't the same.
GorillaBass reply :
Man ... i'm glad I asked, you guys know your stuff. Thanks to all who responded to me, thats really cool I can get such quality answers for such a question. I'm still a rookie, I read a lot on here but that question i've been pondering in my head for several months know.
That lateral line, removing one sense so they rely on others, the light, their environment, I get it now, it's a combination of everything, a jiggling worm in their area.. they'll know. Which makes me feel so much better !! haha
Now.. I got (almost) skunked 3 days in a row fishing the resevoir (I go a lot, i'm sure you guys seen me) , I caught a little guy on my crank on the way out in the marina by lake ridge, despite that? nothing ! .. god I suck, some days I slay though, WHERE DO THE 5LBERS HANG OUT AT ?!
pondbassin101 reply :
On 10/5/2017 at 7:57 AM, GorillaBass said:WHERE DO THE 5LBERS HANG OUT AT ?!
The kind of places that they know you won't find them 
GorillaBass reply :
On 10/5/2017 at 8:02 AM, pondbassin101 said:The kind of places that they know you won't find them
well said !!! .. so, I try to "scan" an area with my two fish finders before I fish somewhere, if I can- I feel like if it looks like somethings there, even if it gives me mixed feelings then it's worth it- sometimes I go over an area and theres nothing and despite it looking like a good spot, I don't fish it.
anyone else use their electronics to their favor?
J Francho reply :
Electronics just help me paint a mental picture of what's under the boat. I'm a structure guy, and I don't care if I don't see fish. So often, I find the right stuff, and low and behold, I will watch them literally come out of nowhere, to my bait, and it's on.
To answer an earlier question, fish deeper and slower than you usually fish to find the big girls. It sounds general, but it's true.
GorillaBass reply :
On 10/5/2017 at 8:31 AM, J Francho said:Electronics just help me paint a mental picture of what's under the boat. I'm a structure guy, and I don't care if I don't see fish. So often, I find the right stuff, and low and behold, I will watch them literally come out of nowhere, to my bait, and it's on.
To answer and earlier question, dish deeper and slower than you usually fish to find the big girls. It sounds general, but it's true.
yeah- I agree man, like I want to make the most out of my electronics, and it's likely why I feel like I 'need' to do that, but I'm a technical guy, in my job and life- I try not to think about it too much but try to 'swing' it in my favor.
the big girls are a little deeper huh? I always felt that way, I dont see a 5lb or heavy bass chillen by the weeds on my resevoir in 2-3ft of water, all the big ones always came in the ~7-8 to like 10/15ft
J Francho reply :
There's always some big fish shallow, but by and large, outside of a a few seasonal windows there are more, bigger fish deeper.
slonezp reply :
You'd be surprised how deep light can penetrate the water. Clear calm water, blue skies, midday sun, light penetration could potentially reach 500ft or more. 20-30ft deep is nothing. Water clarity, waves, and angle of the sun all play a role. I have read studies by walleye fisherman that chartreuse is the only color walleye can pick up under low light conditions in depths greater than 20ft. I fish for smallmouth in Sturgeon Bay in areas where I can see the bottom in 30ft of water in bright skies. Same water where guys regularly fish 90 to 200ft of water for salmon. And what about deep sea fishing? Sometimes we forget there are more species of fish than just bass and there are more types of water than just the ones we frequent.
Catt reply :
On 10/5/2017 at 8:39 PM, J Francho said:There's always some big fish shallow, but by and large, outside of a a few seasonal windows there are more, bigger fish deeper.
Back in the 70s when I started tournament fishing heavily I had an old guide on Toledo Bend tell me, "for every bass you catch near the bank there's 5 behind you waiting to be caught."
RPreeb reply :
On 10/5/2017 at 9:32 PM, slonezp said:You'd be surprised how deep light can penetrate the water. Clear calm water, blue skies, midday sun, light penetration could potentially reach 500ft or more. 20-30ft deep is nothing. Water clarity, waves, and angle of the sun all play a role. I have read studies by walleye fisherman that chartreuse is the only color walleye can pick up under low light conditions in depths greater than 20ft. I fish for smallmouth in Sturgeon Bay in areas where I can see the bottom in 30ft of water in bright skies. Same water where guys regularly fish 90 to 200ft of water for salmon. And what about deep sea fishing? Sometimes we forget there are more species of fish than just bass and there are more types of water than just the ones we frequent.
The visible spectrum is lost by wavelength as you go deeper, starting with the red end (longest wavelengths), with blue penetrating the farthest, extending as deep as 600 meters in very clear water. Red can be lost in as little as 35 feet even under good conditions in the ocean. This is why I don't feel that color is as important as shade... light and dark shades of colors are probably more telling than the color itself.
This photo that I took in 1990 at Little Cayman is in about 35 feet of water. You can see the color brought out by my strobe, but the light of that fairly powerful Nikonos strobe didn't carry much farther than 6 feet, and everything beyond that is just blue and green. The only noticeable colors you see are quite close to the light source. Those objects showed no color before the strobe flashed. Scuba divers often carry a small light with them even on daytime dives to see the real colors on the reef.
slonezp reply :
On 10/5/2017 at 11:09 PM, RPreeb said:The visible spectrum is lost by wavelength as you go deeper, starting with the red end (longest wavelengths), with blue penetrating the farthest, extending as deep as 600 meters in very clear water. Red can be lost in as little as 35 feet even under good conditions in the ocean. This is why I don't feel that color is as important as shade... light and dark shades of colors are probably more telling than the color itself.
This photo that I took in 1990 at Little Cayman is in about 35 feet of water. You can see the color brought out by my strobe, but the light of that fairly powerful Nikonos strobe didn't carry much farther than 6 feet, and everything beyond that is just blue and green. The only noticeable colors you see are quite close to the light source. Those objects showed no color before the strobe flashed. Scuba divers often carry a small light with them even on daytime dives to see the real colors on the reef.
I'm no marine biologist but I would take a guess that a fishes eyesight is better underwater than a humans. As far as color is concerned, I would agree with you about red only because of the walleye studies I previously mentioned. When I chase low light deep water walleye, lets say deeper than 25 feet, specifically from the Wisconsin River system which is stained, and normal visibility around 4ft , I tend to use 6" dark plastic grubs impregnated with glitter. If I'm chasing them in less than 15ft, I'll use chartreuse. During the daylight the fish tend to hold in 16-19ft and white jigheads tipped with Gulp or minnows is the ticket. I mention again, we forget there are other species of fish with very different behaviors yet their habits are similar.
WRB reply :
The problem with trying to disect a fish eye and break it down scientifically into rods and cones to determine what a fish see's is we don't know how the brain processes the light waves. What everyone tends to do is use our brains and eye as a baseline. Humans don't live underwater, we live above water with totally different survival needs and evolved to to take advantage of our environment.
We know from observation and testing that some animals can see a broader spectrum of light and colors then we can. The human eye/brain aren't all equal, some of us are color blind, some have excellent color separation, some are night blind and some have good night vision. A few humans see auoras, energy produced by the brain. Some birds and fish can see ultra violet or infrared color spectrum.
We don't know what we don't know applies to how bass see, they obliviously can see in very low light better than we give them credit.
The more time you spend on the water the more questions you will have.
Tom
toni63 reply :
You mentioned you rely heavily on what your electronics show you is down there to decide if a spot is worth fishing. My thinking is use everything else (season, water temp, forage, weather and water clarity) to establish what might be the best presentation and lures to try then find structure that fits into where and what the bass should/could be doing on that lake during that time.
Then just go fishing. If you throw a crank bait for awhile where crankbaits make sense and get no strikes, try a different lure or move to another spot and try again.
I’ve come to the conclusion that my electronics are really only useful for temp, depth/depth changes and bottom hardness. I never even look for fish on mine. Maybe a bait ball if I’m in deep water but that’s rare for me in my boat.
As far as visibility, someone from IDNR told me along time ago wear your darkest sunglasses till the suns almost gone down then take them off. That difference in visibility at dusk with sunglasses on then off is pretty much the difference between what your eyes can do in low light and what a bass can see in low light under water. So basically while duse looks pretty dark to us it’s still pretty bright to a bass.
WRB reply :
Off topic...If you are not looking for the life zone by determining what depth the bait and bass are located at you are missing the major reason for sonar besides a depth finder.
The fasted way to eliminate unproductive water is knowing what depth to focus your efforts in.
Tom
papajoe222 reply :
On 10/4/2017 at 12:08 AM, GorillaBass said:I try to think like a fish.
Stop trying to think like a fish. Fish don't have the ability to think/reason, and stop trying to figure out if the fish can see your lure in 40ft. of water when you can only see three feet down. Finding the answer isn't going to add to your ability to catch them. Accept the fact that you can catch them in 40ft. of water (if they're there), or in five ft. of water that looks like chocolate milk. Figuring out where they are can be a daunting task.Then you need to figure out what they'll hit. Just that is frustrating enough without filling your head with why.
GorillaBass reply :
Man, you guys.. have a ton of knowledge 
I'll get there one day- thanks to everyone for giving me your opinion and advice. I have a lot to learn.
I try to "think" like a fish in small ways, like- this is a good cove, good cover, id prob chill here -> if I was a fish, but outside of that, I don't have the knowledge like most of you yet to really know colors, seasons, forage- thats a lot to me right now, I did look at a condo by the potomac river that has it's own marina so i can keep a boat there and fish it everyday after work, awesome right? anglers paradise really.
But there, its more grass, heavy grass, heavy cover, 4ft~ deep across the whole river/bay.. thatll add a whole new dynamic instead of the usual resevoir I fish.
I read that the darker the water, then darker baits help.. blacks, blues, ect.. so what then? my white swimjig isnt as good? I went the other day and was throwing the jig (got no bites, so annoying) and was wondering how would they see or feel it, but.. I guess i'll take your guys word for it - you all seem to know A LOT more than me.
is there a method to seasons and colors btw? any advice here is helpful (if it's accurate lol )
thanks guys.
TnRiver46 reply :
Color is important at times but action is way more important. I've been in a boat plenty of times when someone catches lots of fish on the silliest color of lure that looks nothing like the main forage
toni63 reply :
When I first got serious about angling instead of just fishing I used to ask reasonably reliable fisherman I was friends with about different lures, presentations, etc. And I would ask are crank baits good? What about lipless? Do Zara Spooks really work? Backs of coves or do I really need to learn how to fish main lake stuff? Chatterbaits work? Should I use a trailer?
The answer I got most of the time, and that I got sick of hearing, was "oh yeah, they'll kill that..... if that's what they're biting...." or "Oh sure, you can catch a ton of fish back in a cove when the conditions are right....."
Which led to me to ask them well, what conditions, where and when?... Which led to seasons, forage, structure, water temp, clarity, depth, bottom hardness. The list of factors that affect fish is pretty lengthy and what will come into play when depends very much on the lake and the fish in that lake. No two lakes are the same. No two days are the same. No morning on a lake is going to be exactly the same as the afternoon on most lakes. You can troll through two coves and think wow, these look great and fish them with 3 different lures and get nothing then hit on a third one and catch good fish on the first thing you throw.
Fish are generally not reliable creatures when you get right down to it. They are finicky. They turn on and turn off in a minute. Sit in a cove with schools of fish all over and it will be calm for an hour, then all of a sudden it's like someone threw a light switch and every school is getting blasted by bass feeding on them. You throw the kitchen sink at the attacking bass and they totally ignore your offering but keeping marauding the schools. Then it stops and you wonder why they didn't hit your lure in the midst of that feeding frenzy and where did they all come from and where did they all go?
You'll see a lot of pros and amateurs alike say cover water. KVD, the all time great, says in practice for major tournaments if he tries something for ten minutes and doesn't get a bite during practice, he's either changing lures or moving to another location to try something new to find the fish. He doesn't waste time looking at his electronics and the available visible cues thinking "Man, but this spot looks good, they gotta be here!" He either gets a bite and takes it from there to determine how good that spot is for bigger fish, or he moves on.
The question is not whether or not a spot looks like it should hold fish, therefore you must find and catch the fish that are there. It is a matter of fishing a spot awhile and you either get a bite or you don't and you keep moving. I used to fish stuff endlessly thinking "this cove, these laydowns, the shade along here, man, there just has to be fish here!" and there could very well be. And I would spend 2-3 hours of my fishing day working the crap out of that area fishing everything I could think of for fish that weren't feeding when I was there.
Now I don't do that. I troll miles of shoreline, and if I get bit in a stretch, I might double back on that 100 yards or whatever and use a different lure. Or if its near a lay down, I might stop and work that for a bit and see if I can pull some good fish out. But I certainly cover 200% more water than I ever did when I started. Now I get it.
If I want to catch, and not just fish, I am going to cover a lot of water and see a lot of "good" spots and maybe catch some fish in some of those spots. But it won't be every single one, and I will be able to narrow down where the fish generally are and what they are biting that day to refine and improve my targeting as the day goes on. Like "everything I have caught so far has been a this square bill crankbait on points in about the 6-10 foot range depth wise" so guess what I am looking for? Points, and I will be using that square bill in the 6-10 foot range first. And I might spend the rest of my day hitting points and targeting that depth range and using the same retrieve if it consistently gets bites.
Of course to each his own, but I am still going fishing to catch fish, not to target bigger ones specifically. Maybe someday I will make that my goal and refine what I do. But my goal is to catch as many fish as I can with what time I have available, not necessarily big ones, so this is what I do. And I have a lot of fun and do bag some decent ones, some days more than others.
Good luck. You're hooked on a sport now that's worse than crack and more expensive...
GorillaBass reply :
On 10/6/2017 at 9:02 PM, toni63 said:When I first got serious about angling instead of just fishing I used to ask reasonably reliable fisherman I was friends with about different lures, presentations, etc. And I would ask are crank baits good? What about lipless? Do Zara Spooks really work? Backs of coves or do I really need to learn how to fish main lake stuff? Chatterbaits work? Should I use a trailer?
The answer I got most of the time, and that I got sick of hearing, was "oh yeah, they'll kill that..... if that's what they're biting...." or "Oh sure, you can catch a ton of fish back in a cove when the conditions are right....."
Which led to me to ask them well, what conditions, where and when?... Which led to seasons, forage, structure, water temp, clarity, depth, bottom hardness. The list of factors that affect fish is pretty lengthy and what will come into play when depends very much on the lake and the fish in that lake. No two lakes are the same. No two days are the same. No morning on a lake is going to be exactly the same as the afternoon on most lakes. You can troll through two coves and think wow, these look great and fish them with 3 different lures and get nothing then hit on a third one and catch good fish on the first thing you throw.
Fish are generally not reliable creatures when you get right down to it. They are finicky. They turn on and turn off in a minute. Sit in a cove with schools of fish all over and it will be calm for an hour, then all of a sudden it's like someone threw a light switch and every school is getting blasted by bass feeding on them. You throw the kitchen sink at the attacking bass and they totally ignore your offering but keeping marauding the schools. Then it stops and you wonder why they didn't hit your lure in the midst of that feeding frenzy and where did they all come from and where did they all go?
You'll see a lot of pros and amateurs alike say cover water. KVD, the all time great, says in practice for major tournaments if he tries something for ten minutes and doesn't get a bite during practice, he's either changing lures or moving to another location to try something new to find the fish. He doesn't waste time looking at his electronics and the available visible cues thinking "Man, but this spot looks good, they gotta be here!" He either gets a bite and takes it from there to determine how good that spot is for bigger fish, or he moves on.
The question is not whether or not a spot looks like it should hold fish, therefore you must find and catch the fish that are there. It is a matter of fishing a spot awhile and you either get a bite or you don't and you keep moving. I used to fish stuff endlessly thinking "this cove, these laydowns, the shade along here, man, there just has to be fish here!" and there could very well be. And I would spend 2-3 hours of my fishing day working the crap out of that area fishing everything I could think of for fish that weren't feeding when I was there.
Now I don't do that. I troll miles of shoreline, and if I get bit in a stretch, I might double back on that 100 yards or whatever and use a different lure. Or if its near a lay down, I might stop and work that for a bit and see if I can pull some good fish out. But I certainly cover 200% more water than I ever did when I started. Now I get it. If I want to catch, and not just fish, I am going to cover a lot of water and see a lot of "good" spots and maybe catch some fish in some of those spots. But it won't be every single one, and I will be able to narrow down where the fish generally are and what they are biting that day to improve my fishing as the day goes on.
Of course to each his own, but I am still going fishing to catch fish, not to target bigger ones specifically. Maybe someday I will make that my goal and refine what I do. But my goal is to catch as many fish as I can with what time I have available, not necessarily big ones, so this is what I do. And I have a lot of fun and do bag some decent ones, some days more than others.
Good luck. You're hooked on a sport now that's worse than crack and more expensive...
Bro .. .that was legit. I am trying to get "better" at covering water, it's not as straight forward as it seems- at least to do it effectively. I'm trying to teach myself how to cover water effectively w/ good lures for the situation, ie 5-10ft of water, little murky, no laydowns, or little bit more visibility couple trees, some weed beds but thats it and whats the best, I try so much (topwater is my favorite, for obvious reasons) but I try everything, getting more into crankbaiting which I find extremely effective and I love swimjigs or soft plastics (I LOVE SKIPGAP HOOKS!!)
and suggestions, opinions, advice to quickly cover water? do you just keep going down the shoreline? even if a spot looks kinda crappy? do you drive to different spots or just go down "semi ok" shorelines? I find myself starting up my 20hp motor on the rez and just driving to diff spots when I dont feel confident in a location for more than 50 years of shoreline.. good idea? opinions?
bigbill reply :
I like my crankbaits and topwater baits with rattles it's ringing the dinner bell. Using a scent is a plus.
With plastic worms I use a worm rattle in the head. If the worms aren't scented I add a scent sometimes. Twitching the rod tip makes the rattle ring the dinner bell. I like to use the 10" & 12" culprit worms too on occasion.
my Carolina rig I use a brass bullet weight with a brass clicker. Again I either let it fall or twitch my rod tip to rattle it.
changing to different spots. Fishing from shore I can gun n run faster than a boat, lol to different nearby spots. If the heavy rains stirred up the bacteria on the bottom and shut the fish down. It happens where the PH level is bad. If your in a boat there are PH meters you can use.
confidence levels, I'm so up beat nothing can lower my confidence when I'm fishing. I know from fishing there for decades the fish are there. They sometimes can be testing my skills too. lol it's up to us to figure it out. Try different colors.
when I was logging and cutting trees the work put me all over the forests. One job took me to a popular lake not far from two dog leg coves. I watched two great northern pikes chasing bait fish in both dog legs. I was in awe watching this action. They were constantly breaking the surface, my point is in a cove think topwater. To me covering a area quickly is a spinnerbait or topwater spook. In fly fishing they say match the hatch. In bass fishing I'd say match the baitfish.
thinkingredneck reply :
I never worry about whether the fish can find my lure. A bass knows if something is different in her environment. You sonar probably annoys her. You boat noise annoys her. She has a distance, feet to inches that she will move to take a bait, IF she is hungry or just trying to eliminate the bait. Shape, color, smell, vibration, etc all effect her mood. Sounds familiar to a married man--try to eliminate irritants and put her into a receptive mood. The young silly ones are easier to put in a good mood than the old grouchy ones who have seen it all. Biology is biology!
GorillaBass reply :
On 10/13/2017 at 7:22 PM, thinkingredneck said:I never worry about whether the fish can find my lure. A bass knows if something is different in her environment. You sonar probably annoys her. You boat noise annoys her. She has a distance, feet to inches that she will move to take a bait, IF she is hungry or just trying to eliminate the bait. Shape, color, smell, vibration, etc all effect her mood. Sounds familiar to a married man--try to eliminate irritants and put her into a receptive mood. The young silly ones are easier to put in a good mood than the old grouchy ones who have seen it all. Biology is biology!
hm. makes sense. I was wondering this yesterday as I was fishing.. I had a dropshot, 15~ ft or so, and I JJ dipped a zoom trick worm & was thinking to myself.. "can see or smell this?" "how can I make them want to bite it?" "WHY THE F AREN'T THEY BITING IT !!!" LOL
scaleface reply :
We all know how well a dog can use its nose . A bat can use its ears , echo location . Fish can feel their surroundings .
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