the other day i picked up a bag of these in alabama craw, and i was wondering what natural food they are supposed to represent.
plus what is your favorite way to rig these and how do you work it?
Not sure what they are supposed to imitate (maybe a lizard) I've had alot of luck with them on a carolina rig.
try a rage hawg!!
Rage Hawg
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I usually t-rig them. They work well, can be a decent flipping bait
Texas rigged with an 1/8 oz. tungsten weight usually. Watermelon candy is my favorite color and you can't go wrong with the Zoom baits. Try the Rage and compare for yourself, but I prefer the good ole' Brush Hog.
thanks everyone. ill see if i cant get a bag of rag hawgs.
The brush hog is a classic, proven bait. No need to go buy another version. Fish it on a jig, tex rigged, Carolina rigged, weightless... Any way youd fish a soft plastic. IMO they excel on hopped along the bottom or pitched into cover.
The baby brush hog works great on a shakey head or drop shot.
To the bass, they look like prey.
I prefer the baby brush hogs on a Texas rig and the full sized brush hog on a carolina rig. They probably look a little bit like a lot of things to a bass but mainly they look like something they could eat.
Great bait for pitchin' and flippin' or just about anything. Don't limit yourself on them, they just flat catch bass. Had a really difficult day last week, with the bass ignoring all my usual pitchin' stuff (jigs, space monkeys, pit bosses ect.). Had gone hours without a bite, then put on a baby brush hawg, and caught the only bass of the trip.
On 7/18/2012 at 8:21 AM, roadwarrior said:Rage Hawg
Interesting, so Brush Hogs are supposed to represent a Rage Hawg. LOL
Hootie
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I t-rig them, use them on a shakey head and carolina rig them. Good ol watermelon candy here on table rock. hard to beat zoom.
Try the Baby Brush Hogs, too.
We fish them "in the bushes" on Buggs Island and other places where there is structure and wood along the bank.
They are also outstanding Carolina rig baits as mentioned above.
Dip tails in JJs chartruse and start flipping and pitching them into any wood, grass, brush piles, under trees and bushes, docks, boathouses and piers.
We fish them on a baitcaster with 12 pound flouro line.
We usually peg a 1/8 pr 1/4 bullet weight when throwing them.
Hook is your option. You can use an EWG or a worm hook with the barb pinched under the brush hog's skin.
On 7/18/2012 at 10:07 AM, mikey5string said:The brush hog is a classic, proven bait. No need to go buy another version.
Have you tried the Rage? I was fishing a Zoom and had caught several dinks and switched to a Rage in the same color and threw it back in the same spot and caught a 5,4 & a 3# bass in the first 3 casts!
On 7/18/2012 at 6:27 PM, Hi Salenity said:Have you tried the Rage? I was fishing a Zoom and had caught several dinks and switched to a Rage in the same color and threw it back in the same spot and caught a 5,4 & a 3# bass in the first 3 casts!
You honestly believe it was the bait? The difference between the two are minscule to us, let alone the bass. I would think you just took out the runts in that area...I have tried both and would have confidence throwing both, but the Zoom is a classic and has always produced fish for me whether they are small or large, and the price difference helps in my decision as well.
I usually fish them t-rigged with a 1/16 weight on a spinning reel.
Good bait. My wifes grandfather fishes the baby brush hogs t rigged, he catches plenty of bass on them. I dont have the luck that he does with them, so I just stick to my lizards.
Instead of skipping over your question and simply suggesting a sponsors product, I'll try to answer the questions you asked first.
As far as what they mimic, I have NO clue. Maybe a craw, maybe a salamander, I have no clue....but they obviously work .
Techniques: Texas rigged and carolina rigged. They are a fairly subtle lure so I dont blaze them through the cover too quick. I like to give them a chance to let their appendages do their job and draw in the fish. The lightest weight allowed the better for a texas rig.
Since the uninhibited sponsor promotions seem to be a re-occuring theme, I'll add this.
Selecting a lure isnt about brand and just because it says Rage Tail on the package doesn't mean it will automatically work better so don't fool yourself into buying something if what you have is giving you good results already. Since the brushhog is working well for you, that means the action of the lure and the presentation you are using is perfectly fine. Switching to a Rage product offers a completely different action thats not near as subtle. The fish may or may not like it, so I wouldnt switch up until the fish quit hitting your current setup.
I am not bashing the Rage Tail products by any means, but blindly suggesting sponsors products is an irresponsible approach to learning and can set you back on the learning curve. Dont get me wrong, I own several Rage Tail products and had a good day of fishing this past Sunday with them because the fish where keying in on plastics with LOTS of action. When thats the case, its HARD to beat a Rage Tail product, they simply thump better than most However, on days where they want subtlety, the Rage Tails get put away and out comes the more subtle lures. For right now, if what you got is working then no need to reinvent it. Stick with it until the fish are requiring you to change your presentation or lure selection.
I agree with Gangley here. The topic was posted about a very specific bait, so what good does it do to post about a completely different bait? I could understand if the topic was something like "How to fish a creature bait" but it this topic clearly reads "Zoom Brush Hog". Not knocking on the rage tail guys but seriously lets try and keep replies relative to the topic.
As for the Zoom Brush Hogs one of my favorite ways to fish them is on the back of a football jig. I also have had a lot of success rigging them on a shaky head and slowly dragging them across the bottom.
Capt.O
Its my favorite bait (baby brush hogs to be precise ). Its actually the Game Hawg by strike king because i do really well with that Bama Bug color.
I T-Rig with an 1/8 oz tungsten weight and just pitch at targets all day long !
So far I've had the pleasure of using Rage Tail Anaconda and the Smokin Rooster. I've also have used 3 different companies' lizards, 2 companies trick worms, 2 companies ribbon tail worms, 2 companies' 3" craw, 2 companies' stick worms, and 3 companies' flukes. The difference in them seem to be the difference itself. In other words, most of your lakes are high pressure lakes so just a minute difference in lure design will make a huge difference. On my lake there are only maybe 5 or 6 bass fishermen (counting myself) and we are bank bound. So the bass will hit what ever. For example: One day I can get hits on NetBait's Salt Lick, but the next day the bass won't hit it and will hit the Yum Dinger (w/o F2).
That's not to say that the Rage Tails aren't great products (although Zoom does tend to last longer). The have, IMHO, some of the best killer designs on the market and if I had $200 freed up I would buy $200 worth of all their available products.
However, keep in mind the final and from what I've recently learned most important factor is presentation. Check out YouTube and watch people catching bass on gummy worms (yes I mean the candy). You have to appeal to their hunger instinct, their instinct to kill a potential threat, their instinct to kill just because the offending object annoys them, and their competitive instinct.
That being said brush hogs from any company imitate dying fish, lizards, craw or just something that the bass think might be food and he doesn't want to miss out on it.
On 7/18/2012 at 11:01 PM, Vinny Chase said:You honestly believe it was the bait? The difference between the two are minscule to us, let alone the bass. I would think you just took out the runts in that area...I have tried both and would have confidence throwing both, but the Zoom is a classic and has always produced fish for me whether they are small or large, and the price difference helps in my decision as well.
Yep I 100% believe that was the better bait to be using at that time. If I remember correctly the Rage in GP looks quite a bit Greener in the water I don't know if it was the color or The fish had never seen the Rage before I don't know? I was also throwing a jig with a Rage lobster that was not catching anything. just to point out that if it says Rage it's no magic bullet...
I fish them with a 1/8 oz Keel weighted hook.
And BTW a IMHO the people that recommend specific brands and products like Rage, Yo-zuri, KVD L&L, Northstar and Siebert Outdoors just to name a few that get recommended daily do so just to help others out as they have tried and believe in the product.
BTW those were not all sponsors.
I fish them texas rigged normally, and I have had some success "swimming" them on a slow retrieve and burning them on top...both rigged with a keel weighted swimbait hook.
creature bait, they don't got to look like anything, they just supposed to disturb water and have some life like action
owner worm hook
12# yo zuri hybrid
1/8 to 1/4 sinker
san diego jam knot
i'm with mikey5string, the baby brush hogs are incredible on a shakey head.