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fishing user avatarRalph Nicholas Vito reply : 

Now i use a snap swivel so i can change my lures fast instead of tying things on and such and it's probably a bass fishing sin to use it but it's how i have fished since i was a kid. I have always "texas rigged" my worms but possibly with the swivel i can't texas rig a worm the right way like i see all these other bass fisherman do it on youtube or elsewhere. Because i always have this weird bend in the worm like around the front. Is there a rig that i can rig a worm and keep the swivel ? or am i just basically going to have to buy another rod and just use it as like a tie on rod ?

 

 


fishing user avatarNittyGrittyBoy reply : 

Why do you need to change your lures out so fast? Most can tie a Palomar knot in under 20secs.

 

 

  On 6/26/2018 at 12:03 AM, Ralph Nicholas Vito said:

Now i use a snap swivel so i can change my lures fast instead of tying things on and such

 


fishing user avatarRalph Nicholas Vito reply : 
  On 6/26/2018 at 12:14 AM, NittyGrittyBoy said:

Why do you need to change your lures out so fast? Most can tie a Palomar knot in under 20secs.

 

 

 

don't know what that is ? i was only ever taught a fishermans knot ?


fishing user avatarMobasser reply : 

Ralph,  tie directly to the hook with no swivel. Palomer or improved cinch knot. Rig plastic worms as straight as possible. 


fishing user avatarRalph Nicholas Vito reply : 
  On 6/26/2018 at 1:04 AM, Mobasser said:

Ralph,  tie directly to the hook with no swivel. Palomer or improved cinch knot. Rig plastic worms as straight as possible. 

Ok


fishing user avatarJig Man reply : 

Learn how to tie the Pitzen knot.  It is a very good knot and I can tie it in the winter in about 12 seconds with gloves on.


fishing user avatarNittyGrittyBoy reply : 

Google images Palomar knot, basically one of the strongest and simplest knots out there!


fishing user avatarRalph Nicholas Vito reply : 
  On 6/26/2018 at 10:18 AM, NittyGrittyBoy said:

Google images Palomar knot, basically one of the strongest and simplest knots out there!

is it stronger than the fishermans knot ?


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 

If a "fisherman's knot" means a cinch knot, then yes.

 

 


fishing user avatarthinkingredneck reply : 

Not trying to be a "Richard", but you need to re-tie often, even if not changing your lure, ànd even if using a snàp.  If your line gets abaided ir nicked you could break off a fish.  This is especially true if fishing wood, rock, heavy vegetation, and after each fish.  I had a nice fish break off on what appeared to be abraided line and now I am diligent about this.  The Palomar knot is good, as stated, but the improved clinch or Uni knot work well, also.  I use the uni  knot on baits with treble hooks because the Palomar gets hung.  You can also leave a small loop with the Uni to give the cranks more freedom.


fishing user avatarscaleface reply : 

Learn the Palomar knot and retie often .    I use the trilene knot for Texas  Rigs but the Palomar is slightly easier to   tie .


fishing user avatarRalph Nicholas Vito reply : 
  On 6/27/2018 at 1:13 AM, scaleface said:

Learn the Palomar knot and retie often .    I use the trilene knot for Texas  Rigs but the Palomar is slightly easier to   tie .

So snip the line then retie often?

  On 6/26/2018 at 11:11 PM, thinkingredneck said:

Not trying to be a "Richard", but you need to re-tie often, even if not changing your lure, ànd even if using a snàp.  If your line gets abaided ir nicked you could break off a fish.  This is especially true if fishing wood, rock, heavy vegetation, and after each fish.  I had a nice fish break off on what appeared to be abraided line and now I am diligent about this.  The Palomar knot is good, as stated, but the improved clinch or Uni knot work well, also.  I use the uni  knot on baits with treble hooks because the Palomar gets hung.  You can also leave a small loop with the Uni to give the cranks more freedom.

No worries :) i want to learn to become a better fisherman and a more informed fisherman i mean im not trying to become the next bass tourny master or anything just want to have a nice time out on the lake and pond and catch a lot of fish lol

  On 6/26/2018 at 10:13 PM, J Francho said:

If a "fisherman's knot" means a cinch knot, then yes.

 

 

The knot where you spin it 10 times and then put the end through the bottom open loop area and then pull it straight down then you Burn the end of your line so it doesn't untie itself


fishing user avatarscaleface reply : 
  On 6/27/2018 at 1:48 AM, Ralph Nicholas Vito said:

So snip the line then retie often?

Yes . The palomar is so simple to tie that there is no reason not to . Line is only as  strong as its weakest point , so check it often and retie when you notice any damage . Just the basses sandpaper like teeth  will weaken the line . The Palomar is a 100  percent knot when tied correctly .So  is the Trilene .


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 
  On 6/27/2018 at 1:48 AM, Ralph Nicholas Vito said:

The knot where you spin it 10 times and then put the end through the bottom open loop area and then pull it straight down then you Burn the end of your line so it doesn't untie itself

I don't know what that knot is, but I recommend you learn a Palomar or Uni knot, and don't burn anything.


fishing user avatarRalph Nicholas Vito reply : 
  On 6/27/2018 at 1:54 AM, J Francho said:

I don't know what that knot is, but I recommend you learn a Palomar or Uni knot, and don't burn anything.

ok i won't Sorry if like i disgraced the hobby or anything by being such a "novice" just kind of going with what my father taught me about fishing and rolling with it until eventually i found this place :D which is such a great forum !


fishing user avatarMbirdsley reply : 

I only use snaps on cranks.  I only use ball bearing swivels on spoons.  If I’m being lazy( it happens) I will use a ball bearing swivel on the bigger three hook rapalas, bomber Long A’s and other similar longer style baits if I was using a spoon before hand.  The bass and pike do not really mind a ball bearing swivel on these types of lures as long as your not in ultra clear water. If your using snap swivels at least get eagle claw ones.  They are not spro’s but, for the money good. 


fishing user avatarRalph Nicholas Vito reply : 
  On 6/27/2018 at 10:04 AM, Mbirdsley said:

I only use snaps on cranks.  I only use ball bearing swivels on spoons.  If I’m being lazy( it happens) I will use a ball bearing swivel on the bigger three hook rapalas, bomber Long A’s and other similar longer style baits if I was using a spoon before hand.  The bass and pike do not really mind a ball bearing swivel on these types of lures as long as your not in ultra clear water. If your using snap swivels at least get eagle claw ones.  They are not spro’s but, for the money good. 

i had an eagle claw swivel snap in two when i had a good sized pickerel on the line ???? it sucked got him all the way to shore and SNAP off he swam with everything still in i literally screamed so loud at like 6 AM i was so upset i don't like killing fish i always want a nice healthy release


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 
  On 6/27/2018 at 7:09 AM, Ralph Nicholas Vito said:

ok i won't Sorry if like i disgraced the hobby or anything by being such a "novice" just kind of going with what my father taught me about fishing and rolling with it until eventually i found this place :D which is such a great forum !

No disgrace in asking.  We're all here to help!  The whole point of the site is to get novices past the learning curve.


fishing user avatarBoomstick reply : 

 

  On 6/27/2018 at 1:48 AM, Ralph Nicholas Vito said:

The knot where you spin it 10 times and then put the end through the bottom open loop area and then pull it straight down then you Burn the end of your line so it doesn't untie itself

I've heard many different knots referred to as the fisherman's knot. In this case, I believe you're referring to the cinch knot. I would recommend learning the palomar or the uni knot, I generally prefer the uni and give it 5-7 turns because it works with all lines where the palomar doesn't work well with fluorocarbon, although I'll often use it with braid because it cinches down very tightly on braided line, although I never have issues losing baits with the uni on braid either.

 

This video should help you out:

 


fishing user avatarRalph Nicholas Vito reply : 
  On 6/27/2018 at 11:30 PM, Boomstick said:

 

I've heard many different knots referred to as the fisherman's knot. In this case, I believe you're referring to the cinch knot. I would recommend learning the palomar or the uni knot, I generally prefer the uni and give it 5-7 turns because it works with all lines where the palomar doesn't work well with fluorocarbon, although I'll often use it with braid because it cinches down very tightly on braided line, although I never have issues losing baits with the uni on braid either.

 

This video should help you out:

 

I use this line called Trilene Transoptic idk if it's flourocarbon or what but i do like it i will try this knot this weekend

Is there any like ... universal hook that i can use with most worms no matter the size of the worm? like a 4/0 or 3/0 EWG or offset ?


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 
  On 6/27/2018 at 11:51 PM, Ralph Nicholas Vito said:

Is there any like ... universal hook that i can use with most worms no matter the size of the worm? like a 4/0 or 3/0 EWG or offset ?

Generally, keeping a supply of 3/0, 4/0, and 5/0 will cover most sizes of plastics.  AT least, those are the ones I buy most frequently.


fishing user avatarMrFrost reply : 
  On 6/27/2018 at 7:09 AM, Ralph Nicholas Vito said:

ok i won't Sorry if like i disgraced the hobby or anything by being such a "novice" 

Nonsense!  Learning some strong knots would probably help make it more likely that you tie on a different lure when the bite is slow on what you're throwing.  

 

Don't ever let yourself feel like just because it seems common practice to do one thing or the other, that it's a must.    


fishing user avatarRalph Nicholas Vito reply : 
  On 6/28/2018 at 12:45 AM, J Francho said:

Generally, keeping a supply of 3/0, 4/0, and 5/0 will cover most sizes of plastics.  AT least, those are the ones I buy most frequently.

i literally went to dicks like a month ago and just grabbed a bunch of hooks that i thought i have either used before OR have seen in my dads tackle box. And also some worms / baits tell you what hook is best to use which is nice but sometimes i can't find them or i can't quite put the hook in the right way possibly but i'm definitely going to look at 3/0-5/0


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 

Another rule: use a hook that's twice as wide as the bait.  It always takes some practice rigging them on the hook.  I still screw up sometimes, and I've been fishing for 40+ years.

 

Take a look through our how to video collection.  There's a bunch in there about rigging plastics, and hook selection.

 

https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-videos/How-To-Fishing-Videos


fishing user avatarBassWhole! reply : 
  On 6/26/2018 at 12:14 AM, NittyGrittyBoy said:

Why do you need to change your lures out so fast? Most can tie a Palomar knot in under 20secs.

 

 

 

I'll see your 20 second Palomar, and raise you a 10 second uni.


fishing user avatarNittyGrittyBoy reply : 

I'll raise to a 9sec Palomar

 

Dang now I have to time myself just to see...


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 

You can rig the worm with a standard worm hook with a leader the has a loop knot, clip the leader to the snap. To add weight clamp on a split shot to the leader end loop or use a depsey sinker and clip onto the snap or add the bullet to the pre made leader.

Improved clinch knot is a good knot tied correctly as is a Palomar knot and several others.

what type of tackle do you have; spinning or baitcasting? Lb test line?

Tom


fishing user avatarBoomstick reply : 
  On 6/27/2018 at 11:51 PM, Ralph Nicholas Vito said:

I use this line called Trilene Transoptic idk if it's flourocarbon or what but i do like it i will try this knot this weekend

Is there any like ... universal hook that i can use with most worms no matter the size of the worm? like a 4/0 or 3/0 EWG or offset ?

Transoptic is a color changing monofilament, so you should be able to use either knot. I've had improved cinch 

 

I largely keep 2/0 EWGs for soft plastic crayfish, and 3/0 and 4/0 EWGs for senkos and ribbon tail worms. Also 3/0s work well with some of the rage tails. If I had only two, I would go with a 2/0 and 4/0. I like the Lazer Trokar's slightly better than Gammys - they're so sharp they set themselves, although Gammys are fine too.

 

The rule is the larger the bait, the bigger the hook. The rule with senkos and knockoffs is for a 4' Senko I will get a 3/0. Anything larger than a 5" Senko will get a 4/0, and for a 5", I will usually use a 4/0, but a 3/0 works well too.


fishing user avatarRalph Nicholas Vito reply : 

Stopped using the eagle claw swivel .... 2nd time one has snapped in half on me .... how does a fish even do that !?!?!?! a METAL swivel!?!?!! tying on from now on  learned the palomar knot last night :)


fishing user avatarRalph Nicholas Vito reply : 
  On 6/28/2018 at 5:31 AM, WRB said:

You can rig the worm with a standard worm hook with a leader the has a loop knot, clip the leader to the snap. To add weight clamp on a split shot to the leader end loop or use a depsey sinker and clip onto the snap or add the bullet to the pre made leader.

Improved clinch knot is a good knot tied correctly as is a Palomar knot and several others.

what type of tackle do you have; spinning or baitcasting? Lb test line?

Tom

8lb test with a spinning rod


fishing user avatarthinkingredneck reply : 

Hey, you are finding fish.  That is the hard part!  

 

I used the improved clinch knot for years with no problem, but now I prefer the uni knot shown above.  It is more versatile.   You can use a uni to snell a hook, tie on a hook, join line to a reel, can use a double uni to join a leader to line, etc.  It is good for stiff line.  Just slobber on it (That is southern for moisten with saliva) when you tighten it dowm.

 

As stated above, the hook gap should be twice the width of the plastic. Watch Glenn's videos on rigging.  

 

It is a good idea to use a swivel and leader on a spinning rod to prevent line twist.  That is a swivel  between line and leader and not a snàp swivel.  IMHO.  Swivels have lb strength just as lines do. Avoid the cheap brass ones for Bass.

 

ANY GOOD NAME BRAND HOOKS WORK, JUST BE SURE TO USE SUPERLINE HOOKS ON BRAID AND REGULAR HOOKS ON MONO.

 

Now go catch some fish!  Welcome to the forum.




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