Lure Identification.. 2025
BASSPATROL247 reply :
For the life of me i cannot remember who these were made by, two different brands but wich? Trying to find running depth on them also...norman and bomber come to mind but my brain has gas apparently haha
Bluebasser86 reply :
First one is a Norman's, looks like a DD14 to me. Second one is either a Bagley's or a Poe I believe. I don't know the models of either of their lineups so can't help there.
Catt reply :
Wal-Mart sold a series of cranks that looked like Norman. I'll see if I can upload pics of the ones I have.
The bottom one looks like Rapala but it would have the name on the bill.
Poe's would have the name on the bill as well
fishballer06 reply :
First one is definitely a Norman DD.
Second looks like a Bagley to me.
gardnerjigman reply :
I'm with the others on the second being a bagley
the reel ess reply :
On 7/7/2015 at 5:53 PM, Catt said:Wal-Mart sold a series of cranks that looked like Norman. I'll see if I can upload pics of the ones I have.
The bottom one looks like Rapala but it would have the name on the bill.
Poe's would have the name on the bill as well
The right one looks like Bagley's to me.
I believe Wal Mart's brand was called Renegade. I had several that I bought out of a bargain bin because I was married to a woman at the time who spent more than I made. Seems like the bin was full of firetiger color so I bought one of every size. Never caught much and they still looked brand new.
I wouldn't call them complete garbage, but they needed tuned all the time. Wouldn't run true enough to achieve their advertised depths. I just gave them away to a kid at my church along with an old tackle box.
scaleface reply :
If thats not a Norman with a Sunshine Gel coat then its a darn good impostor .
Catt reply :
For a period of time Wal-Mart had went crazy with FLW series tackle that was knockoffs of everyone.
I distinctly remember those cranks & have 3-4 some where in an FLW tackle box.
Catt reply :
For a period of time Wal-Mart had went crazy with FLW series tackle that was knockoffs of everyone.
I distinctly remember those cranks & have 3-4 some where in an FLW tackle box.
the reel ess reply :
On 7/8/2015 at 5:19 AM, Catt said:For a period of time Wal-Mart had went crazy with FLW series tackle that was knockoffs of everyone.
I distinctly remember those cranks & have 3-4 some where in an FLW tackle box.
I remember the commercial that said FLW stands for Fishermen Love Walmart.
WRB reply :
The lure on the right isn't a Bagley, it does have the bug eyes typical for Bagley, the bill doesn't have a wire and has a screw eye Bagley's don't have on the lures I have. The lure on the left looks like Norman DD14 to me.
Tom
scaleface reply :
The wood one looks like a Lee Sisson .
Catt reply :
The problem I'm having is Bagley, Norman, Poe, Rapala, & Sisson all having markings on the bill and/or belly.
Which leaves knockoff 
BASSPATROL247 reply :
It does have a wire on the eye it does a 90° back through the bait. DD14 i assume is dives down 14ft? Reason im curious is because i found a pile of christmas trees in 19 ft of water with a bunch of something suspended right above it and twice i tried everything to get a bite and nothing, i mean everything. All my cranks wont go that deep so i pulled my g'pas out and found those two and one i know is a rapala to try on the pile. Heres the rapala, any ideas on model or depth? Looks lime a huge shad rap i think...On 7/8/2015 at 7:37 AM, WRB said:The lure on the right isn't a Bagley, it does have the bug eyes typical for Bagley, the bill doesn't have a wire and has a screw eye Bagley's don't have on the lures I have. The lure on the left looks like Norman DD14 to me.
Tom
Bluebasser86 reply :
The Rapala is a Risto Rap, probably a RR8 or RR9 it looks like. Should run in the 12-15' range.
Shanes7614 reply :
On 7/8/2015 at 1:16 PM, Bluebasser86 said:The Rapala is a Risto Rap, probably a RR8 or RR9 it looks like. Should run in the 12-15' range.
d**n your good. I have a couple of these in my crankbait box and all of my cranks I write with a permanent marker what depth they dive to on the underside of the bills. Mine are marked 12'.
BASSPATROL247 reply :
Knew i wasnt the only one. Grandpa did that on his for as long as i can remember..
BASSPATROL247 reply :
Thanks for all the replies guys.. now i ask this, what cranks will go 20+?
BASSPATROL247 reply :
Knew i wasnt the only one. Grandpa did that on his for as long as i can remember..
Bluebasser86 reply :
Strike King 6XD, 8XD, and 10XD, Duo G87 20A, Mann's 20 and 30 plus, the biggest size Hot Lips Express, DT20, Lucky Strike The Freak 3, 6th Sense Crush 500DD to name a few.
BASSPATROL247 reply :
Was thinkin 8-10XD or rapala DT metal 20 after a quick look..
fishballer06 reply :
Before you go throwing a crank that big, you'll have to make sure you have the right equipment.
BASSPATROL247 reply :
On 7/8/2015 at 8:42 PM, fishballer06 said:Before you go throwing a crank that big, you'll have to make sure you have the right equipment.
Skeete reese crankbait rod, and or abu 5600 ultra mag revo winch...think im good..
Catt reply :
Mann's DD20+ & 30+
WRB reply :
If you are willing to troll the deep diving lure you can reach it's maximum diving depth using 10-12 lb test line.
Floater diver crankbaits with long diving bills must overcome buoyancy and line drag to get down near max depths. The crankbait moves forward about 3' for each 1' it dives; 20' depth x 3 = 60' to get down and it wants to come back up fighting the line pulling it upwards.
Easy to test deep divers by slow trolling them about 100' back of the boat over known bottom depth. Very few can reach 20' depths on a average 40 yard cast!
The deepest diver I found using legacy lures of standard size was Bagley Dredge, it's a weighted slow sinker and diver to about 22' with a 40 yard cast and stays down longer than other lures.
Tom
BASSPATROL247 reply :
On 7/8/2015 at 11:41 PM, WRB said:If you are willing to troll the deep diving lure you can reach it's maximum diving depth using 10-12 lb test line.
Floater diver crankbaits with long diving bills must overcome buoyancy and line drag to get down near max depths. The crankbait moves forward about 3' for each 1' it dives; 20' depth x 3 = 60' to get down and it wants to come back up fighting the line pulling it upwards.
Easy to test deep divers by slow trolling them about 100' back of the boat over known bottom depth. Very few can reach 20' depths on a average 40 yard cast!
The deepest diver I found using legacy lures of standard size was Bagley Dredge, it's a weighted slow sinker and diver to about 22' with a 40 yard cast and stays down longer than other lures.
Tom
The pile im trying to get down to sits in 19 fow and the top is 16-17 ft deep, im thinking something thats suppose to run 20+ feet should get me down to the tops.. you say a 60yd cast is needed?? Whoa thats a long cast but doable with right setup and perfect conditions.. good thing is i can cast to it from any angle so i can use the wind if any present...
WRB reply :
No, I said it takes about 60' to get down to max diving depth, that is 20 yards. You cast about 20-25 yards past the intended target and the crankbait should be at whatever depth it can dive to as it gets near the targeted area. Keep in mind the crankbait only stays down about 10 yards and starts coming back up with a 40-50 yard cast.On 7/9/2015 at 1:44 AM, BASSPATROL247 said:The pile im trying to get down to sits in 19 fow and the top is 16-17 ft deep, im thinking something thats suppose to run 20+ feet should get me down to the tops.. you say a 60yd cast is needed?? Whoa thats a long cast but doable with right setup and perfect conditions.. good thing is i can cast to it from any angle so i can use the wind if any present...
Tom
PS, a 50 yard cast with a crankbait is a very long cast! You can use 1/2-3/4 oz Scrounger w/6" Sluggo and work those brush piles a lot easier.
BASSPATROL247 reply :
On 7/9/2015 at 2:00 AM, WRB said:No, I said it takes about 60' to get down to max diving depth, that is 20 yards. You cast about 20-25 yards past the intended target and the crankbait should be at whatever depth it can dive to as it gets near the targeted area. Keep in mind the crankbait only stays down about 10 yards and starts coming back up with a 40-50 yard cast.
Tom
PS, a 50 yard cast with a crankbait is a very long cast!
Yeah my fault, i typed that wrong. Ive fished cranks but deep for me (most deep cover is 12-13here) is about 12-13ft and i can get down to that but cant get down to 20 with a crank although i didnt have one that ran that deep...good post.
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