Gamakatsu Or Trokar?? 2024

Jon G reply :

Ever since I started using soft plastics I have been using Gamakatsus. Now I have sort of wanted to try Trokars and wondered what is better. Gamakatsu or Trokar?

pbizzle reply :

I've used trokars, but they get dull to fast for how much they cost.

S_Miketa6 reply :

For me they're both great options, Trokars are a lot sharper but a little more expensive, I just buy the cheapest one at the time I'm buying so mainly Gamakatsus!

Hope that helps.

webertime reply :

The blade-like edge on Trokar's point, SHREDS plastic baits when texposing. Gammy's all the way.

kylek reply :

On 9/21/2013 at 8:32 AM, webertime said:
The blade-like edge on Trokar's point, SHREDS plastic baits when texposing. Gammy's all the way.

I use Gammys for this same reason.

flyfisher reply :

I like trokars and buy them when they are on sale every spring at BPS but i don't hesitate to throw a gammy either.

QUAKEnSHAKE reply :

If you're fishing close or around rock, gammy if at distance non-rocky areas with fluoro line, trokar. Trokars sharpness offsets fluoros stretch and less hooksetting power on longer casts. Now if braid user both seem to work for me but still prefer trokar. I definately notice the ease of hookset on my lighter powered rods vs other brands and how deeply they penetrate.

Trokars arent cost prohibitive for a try'em once to find out sort of deal what $2-$3 more a pack the only thing is you may get hooked on them.

Snakehead Whisperer reply :

Owner.

Hard to go wrong with Gamy or Trokars, but I usually spend my money on Owner hooks.

ww2farmer reply :

Not a fan of Trokars, for the reasons listed above. They seem to rust fast, the tip durability, and they shred plastics. Gamakatsu's have been my hook of choice for years, but VMC is winning me over with there line of "Ike" approved stuff.

Bluebasser86 reply :

I get by just fine with VMC, H2O, and BPS worm hooks. Trokars are scary sharp, great for light line fishing when you need a hook to penetrate easily with less force. I go through too many hooks due to zebra mussel cut offs to fish expensive hooks anymore.

roadwarrior reply :

Well, we all spend a lot of money on tackle and gear. There are lots of options for saving

money, but hooks and line are too important to skimp over pocket change. I carry a variety

of hooks that seem to accumulate just from experimenting with different.

Moaner hooks are made by Mustad. I have never had an issue. Owner XXX make a statement

and I like them on Siebert Outdoors jigs. VMV are standard on Lucky Craft lures and the Katsuage

that Megabass use are killer! I think the Trokar are an advantage for soft plastics, especially with

light line. I consider the Daiichi XPoint the best hook made.

So, with all that said, Gamakatsu is still my main hook brand especially their Octopus Circle Hooks.

smalljaw67 reply :

I like the Trokar flipping hook over the Gammy simply because it is sharper but the Gammy has a bad bait keeper that keeps getting pulled down on hooksets. I like the HD worm hook from Trokar for fishing fluke style baits, they are a round bend and that style hook works better for fluke baits as they don't slide down the hook like the EWG hooks but you need a shap hook to use that style on fluke baits and Trokars are shaper. All 3, Owner, Gamakatsu, and Trokar are good premium hooks and all 3 have cutting points that will tear a larger hole in a fish's mouth if you hook them in the corner of the mouth, I tried them all and for heavy plastics like flukes or creatures then you need a premium hook but other baits the VMC, Mustad, and Eagle Claw Laser Sharps all have needle points, VMC calls theirs "cone cut, Mustad calls theirs "ultra point", and Laser Sharp calls theirs "needle point", what that does is allows for quick penetration by way of a puncture, it does take slightly more pressure to set the hook with these hooks but when I say slightly I mean slightly, the points are just as sharp as the premium hooks but they don't have a cutting edge and they do offer a distinct advantage and that is once they penetrate they usually stay in and even light hooked fish are landed more often as the hooks of this type don't cut like the other. The disadvantage is with heavier plastics as they push through rather than cut through, going through a thick creature bait into a fish's mouth take considerably much more force to get through than it does for the cutting point hooks. On jigs and spinnerbaits you want the ultra point hooks, on cranks both work well with an edge to the cutting points when it comes to the smaller trebles, and heavy plastics you want the cutting edge as well.

Catt reply :

Mustad

MarkH024 reply :

On 9/21/2013 at 8:32 AM, webertime said:
The blade-like edge on Trokar's point, SHREDS plastic baits when texposing. Gammy's all the way.

X2. Too much wasted plastics from them

Montanaro reply :

not spending trokar money for it to shred my plastic and get lodged in a branch...

Craiger12 reply :

Owner

Montanaro reply :

was thinkin of trying vmc ike approved. saw where it has a 3* offset...is that an advantage?

pbizzle reply :

On 9/21/2013 at 11:00 PM, Montanaro said:
not spending trokar money for it to shred my plastic and get lodged in a branch...

This made me laugh because I just bent out my last trokar when I got it caught up in a brush pile.

Stingray23 reply :

Been using Gamakatsu since day 1.

Munkin reply :

Depends on the situation I am fishing as to what hook works the best. Trial and error is the only way to find out what works best for you. I do not own any Trokar hooks because they are expensive compared to others and a lot of people I know that used them say the points roll. For jigs I like a Gamakatsu hook most of the time but creature baits nothing beats a Mustad tube hook.

Allen

SudburyBasser reply :

Gamakatsu generally but I have also been known to use the BPS brand as well. I never mind spending top dollar if something works they way I need it to but I find Trokar to be too expensive for the issues they have that others have brought up earlier.

A-Jay reply :

Owner Wide Gap Plus Black Chrome

A-Jay

dreamertino reply :

Owner

CPBassFishing reply :

Owner!

derekxec reply :

i mainly use owner but if they dont have the owner i want ill find a gama thats like the one i want

owner has been a great hook that is very sharp and doesnt dull, break or bend easily and those are all the things i want in a hook so no reason to spend an extra $2-3 really

TBendBassin reply :

Owner

bmlum415 reply :

Trokar when punching otherwise gamakatsu all the way

Felix77 reply :

I am sold on the new line of VMC Ike approved stuff. Much cheaper also.

flyfisher reply :

I think it is funny that all the negative reports on trokar is because they do their job better....hooks are designed to penetrate and if it gets hung up in a tree or shreds your plastic isn't it just doing it's job?

Really there are a ton of good hooks out there and all it takes is one bad experience for fishermen in general to disregarda product....for me it is quantum. I had one bad experience and vowed to never buy another and i haven't, even though they may have some good products out there

J Francho reply :

Out of those two, I'd pick Gamakatsu. I use VMC, Owner, Gamakatsu, and Daiichi.

CWB reply :

On 9/24/2013 at 1:45 AM, J Francho said:
Out of those two, I'd pick Gamakatsu. I use VMC, Owner, Gamakatsu, and Daiichi.

VMC not a bad option.

http://www.***.com/VMC_Inline_1X_Treble_Hook/descpage-VMCILT.html

If you like regular shank hooks, these are not a bad option for cranks. I use these and the gammy short shank magic eye in-line hooks.

chase102798 reply :

On 9/24/2013 at 1:05 AM, flyfisher said:

I think it is funny that all the negative reports on trokar is because they do their job better....hooks are designed to penetrate and if it gets hung up in a tree or shreds your plastic isn't it just doing it's job?

Really there are a ton of good hooks out there and all it takes is one bad experience for fishermen in general to disregarda product....for me it is quantum. I had one bad experience and vowed to never buy another and i haven't, even though they may have some good products out there

You are missing out. I think the EXO is one of the best reels in that price point. Check out the Tacketour review they did.

I love to be the odd man out.

I absolutely LOVE Trokar hooks. They are by far the sharpest. I gave away every other hook I owned. With fluoro and long casts they do indeed shine and have given me a near perfect hooking percentage in the last two years with my jigs. I have never had problems with hook points rolling (I melt down beat up jigs and reuse the hooks that are still sharp) and they rust LESS fast than the owner hooks they replaced, at least for me. Salt will cause hooks to rust the fastest, so keeping your baits on extended periods of time (over days) is just a waste of good gear. I pour all my jigs with them and buy them in bulk. I pour hundreds of bulk hooks a season for myself and my two fishing partners. They each converted to Trokar and my die-hard worm buddy has been experiencing noticeably less lost fish. He may have gone through plastic less often, but he also lost more fish and at times had penetration issues with Gama and Owner hooks. I did a lot of hook testing on cold meat, and with a pull gauge, Trokars average a much lower pound force necessary to penetrate to the hook bend. Under a B&L 20x jewelers loop, mustad hooks are less than impressive. The points have noticeable roundness and sometimes deformity at that magnification. Gamas are pretty sharp as are owners. Of the round point style, Daiichi are crazy pointed under power and by far sharper than the former mentioned with the exception of the Trokar point. The end point on Daiichis are so fine, it is hard to see the actual tip clearly. We started doing these "exams" when we had some penetration issues with light line rigs for steelhead. We carried it over to our bass gear.

I've never understood expensive rods, reels, lines, baits, and then everyone wants the cheapest hooks. I know guys who throw away their fluoro every tournament but buy discount hooks. Crazy to me.

I pour my own plastics, so I have no problem with plastic waste. I haven't really noticed it anyway. But I don't use salt impregnated baits that shred crazy easy either. HD Density additive from CCM makes a worm fall like a senko but last twice as long. Salt rips baits and rusts hooks. I have had no decrease in catch percentage since not using salt. Buy Trokars and start pouring plastics. The savings are endless.

My advice is experiment on your own. Buy a couple packs of each and spend some weeks on the water giving them a thorough evaluation. Be scientific about it and report back. Just my thoughts.

Lip 'em! reply :

Gammy all the way.

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