What is the mono with the least amount of stretch? 2025
freelancer27 reply :
Hi all,
I am looking for a mono line with the least amount of stretch (that preferably still maintains some manageability on a BC reel).
Looking for it in 14-15 pound test to use it for skipping jigs but also for mid-heary top water lures (like 1 oz spooks).
Thanks all.
Todd2 reply :
Trilene XT might be old school but I think it has less stretch than most mono's. I prefer Stren but XT has less stretch.
jimmyjoe reply :
This new Sufix Advance is low stretch. I've used it for twitchbaits with good results. Be careful with your knots, though. I'm still experimenting with finding the right knot for it. jj
A-Jay reply :
Haven't tried them all, but here's 3 that I'd select as top performers
Maxima Ultragreen Line
Sunline Shooter Defier Armilo Nylon Line
P-Line CXX
A-Jay
CroakHunter reply :
Seaguar senshi is great if you can find some. Very small diameter compared to other mono or copoly lines. Handles very well. I use 20lb for heavy spinnerbaits and chatterbaits
OkobojiEagle reply :
Berkley Sensation is a seldom mentioned co-poly that deserves to be in this conversation
oe
Bluebasser86 reply :
Seaguar Rippin Mono is really nice and seems to have low stretch (I've done no test so I can't confirm, just my observations from on the water).
WRB reply :
Define strecth. The force applied to yield the line so it elongates is about 33% of the ultimate strength, same as Fluorocarbon line.
Your MH rod can apply about 4 lbs of force before it bottoms out or bend to it's max. You can't "stretch" any 12 lb mono line using a MH rod. If you don't believe this try lifting 1/2 gallon jug of water with you rod and whatever line you like.
Tom
Heartland reply :
Sunline Shooter Defier Armilo
Arcs&sparks reply :
On 5/16/2019 at 12:46 PM, WRB said:Define strecth. The force applied to yield the line so it elongates is about 33% of the ultimate strength, same as Fluorocarbon line.
Your MH rod can apply about 4 lbs of force before it bottoms out or bend to it's max. You can't "stretch" any 12 lb mono line using a MH rod. If you don't believe this try lifting 1/2 gallon jug of water with you rod and whatever line you like.
Tom
I recall some other topics where this was explained. But for clarity, what we are perceiving as stretch-or lack thereof- is the different coefficient of drag in the water?
Brad Reid reply :
Tom has the "math" correct here that fishing line is rarely taxed to the extent that stretch comes into play. Arriving at the point where line begins to materially stretch is rarely the weak link in the system. The issue is rather parameterized by the characteristics of the rod being used.
The most obviously stretchy line I have ever encountered? That Cajun Red mono that often (always?) comes pre-wound on Zebco spincasters. Gosh, that stuff is like a rubber band! If you tried to use, say, the 12 lbs. test strength of this line on a 7'6" Heavy, Fast rod to pull big girls out of goop? Then, we do move into the realm of stretch becoming a factor. The rod is heavy enough, the length long enough to magnify the force created with a big hook set, the line stretchy enough to affect the transmission of force down to the hook. Pretty extreme.
Back to the OP's question. He is looking for a BC mono line to both skip jigs and double up for presentations casting rather heavy topwater lures up to 1 oz. I think he has the test strength dialed in about correct in the 14 to 15 lbs. range for doing both here. I'd go with line handling characteristics choosing a line: knot holding, performance on the reel.
I'm a Sufix fan.
Brad
TOXIC reply :
Mono is mono to me. The only differences I can easily see are memory and stiffness. Stretch is a non factor. Since you are spooling on a baitcaster, memory will be less of a problem. Personally, I go with Excel from BPS/Cabelas. It's cheap and I change it out on a regular basis. I also keep it treated with a line conditioner.
dodgeguy reply :
On 5/16/2019 at 9:50 AM, jimmyjoe said:This new Sufix Advance is low stretch. I've used it for twitchbaits with good results. Be careful with your knots, though. I'm still experimenting with finding the right knot for it. jj
Have no problem with a Palomar knot. I have pulled trees out of the water with 14 lb test. Advance has the least stretch by far of any mono line.
fishballer06 reply :
On 5/16/2019 at 10:06 AM, A-Jay said:Sunline Shooter Defier Armilo Nylon Line
On 5/16/2019 at 2:20 PM, Heartland said:Sunline Shooter Defier Armilo
^^ This. It will cost you more than a spool of fluoro, but man is it awesome.
WRB reply :
On 5/16/2019 at 5:16 PM, Arcs&sparks said:I recall some other topics where this was explained. But for clarity, what we are perceiving as stretch-or lack thereof- is the different coefficient of drag in the water?
Drag coeffient is important as it results in line bow under water, the larger diameter the line is drag increases. Monofilament line or mono tends to be larger in diameter per # test creating more bow to tighten up creating a feeling of line stretch.
Tom
NHBull reply :
Armilo or Senshi are the 2 I use for that very reason
Allen Der reply :
Sufix siege is good and cheap. Haven't tried advance yet
jbrew73 reply :
Sunline Shooter Defier Armilo has less perceived stretch than any mono I have tried. Drag and bow due to diameter do play a major roll in what is perceived as stretch but I think the line itself is at least equally responsible for stretch, feel, sensitivity, etc.
WRB reply :
^^^^Hallelujah, someone finally gets it!^^^^
Tom
Catt reply :
Buy you a spool of Big Game & be done with it!
dodgeguy reply :
Bow in the line bass nothing to do with it if you take out the slack. All mono and fluro stretch on hooksets. On a long cast this can add up to a lot of stretch.On a hard hookset you could get 5-6 feet of stretch.
TOXIC reply :
Just a little story. Was doing a show with a rep from Pure Fishing (Trilene) and he did a little demo. Had a 7ft rod spooled with 12lb mono, walked off about an average cast and held the line with 2 fingers. Told various people to pick up the rod/reel and jerk like they were setting the hook. No one pulled the line out from between his fingers.
rangerjockey reply :
On 5/16/2019 at 7:27 PM, dodgeguy said:Have no problem with a Palomar knot. I have pulled trees out of the water with 14 lb test. Advance has the least stretch by far of any mono line.
How did you test the " Advance has least stretch of any mono line " part ?
Edited by rangerjockeyTeam9nine reply :
On 5/16/2019 at 11:08 AM, OkobojiEagle said:Berkley Sensation is a seldom mentioned co-poly that deserves to be in this conversation
oe
I’ve tested quite a few over the years and would agree with OE that Sensation is one that regularly performs well in the lower stretch category, usually near the top with the lines I’ve tested.
As for nylon based lines stretching, if you have applied any amount of force at the hook/lure, then there has been some degree of line stretch involved in that overall equation.
jimmyjoe reply :
On 5/17/2019 at 6:57 PM, TOXIC said:Just a little story. Was doing a show with a rep from Pure Fishing (Trilene) and he did a little demo. Had a 7ft rod spooled with 12lb mono, walked off about an average cast and held the line with 2 fingers. Told various people to pick up the rod/reel and jerk like they were setting the hook. No one pulled the line out from between his fingers.
One guy told me, "You don't hook the fish. They hook themselves." I thought he was nuts, but maybe he had something there. jj
Tennessee Boy reply :
I recently tested #20 Sunline Supernatural by tying it to a five lbs weight and lifting the weight from 12 feet above and measuring the amount of stretch from the point where the line was taught until the weight was lifted off the floor. I chose 5 lbs because this is typically what I would set my drag at with #20 test. What percentage of stretch do you think I measured?
J Francho reply :
On 5/17/2019 at 6:57 PM, TOXIC said:Just a little story. Was doing a show with a rep from Pure Fishing (Trilene) and he did a little demo. Had a 7ft rod spooled with 12lb mono, walked off about an average cast and held the line with 2 fingers. Told various people to pick up the rod/reel and jerk like they were setting the hook. No one pulled the line out from between his fingers.
He should have had them place the hook point to their fingertip, and do the demonstration again. I've hooked bony mouthed steelhead on super long drifts using 8# mono. It doesn't take much to get a hook through, even with the stretch. There's still pressure. This is why sharp hooks are so important. I believe the hook is more important, and line stretch is over played, when talking about lost fish.
Todd2 reply :
On 5/17/2019 at 9:29 PM, J Francho said:He should have had them place the hook point to their fingertip, and do the demonstration again. I've hooked bony mouthed steelhead on super long drifts using 8# mono. It doesn't take much to get a hook through, even with the stretch. There's still pressure. This is why sharp hooks are so important. I believe the hook is more important, and line stretch is over played, when talking about lost fish.
Agreed...you'd think nobody ever caught fish on Trilene XL all these years..lol. Reel into the fish and set the hook.
WRB reply :
Try that demo with the reel set and rod sweep. Rod sets can't move enough line on a average casting distance to load the hook unless the lure is downward between 45-90 degrees. Hook set technique is important when casting over 30 yards.
Tom
TOXIC reply :
On 5/17/2019 at 9:29 PM, J Francho said:He should have had them place the hook point to their fingertip, and do the demonstration again. I've hooked bony mouthed steelhead on super long drifts using 8# mono. It doesn't take much to get a hook through, even with the stretch. There's still pressure. This is why sharp hooks are so important. I believe the hook is more important, and line stretch is over played, when talking about lost fish.
Exactly my point. We over think stretch and the advantage of other lines like braid with its -0- stretch properties. Good hooks are way more important.
dodgeguy reply :
On 5/17/2019 at 7:00 PM, rangerjockey said:How did you test the " Advance has least stretch of any mono line " part ?
I've fished tons of different mono lines in 50 years. The minute you fish advance you can tell it's totally different. It's not even close. Hook into a big heavy tree limb and pull on it. You immediately notice you don't stretch anywhere near as much as any mono I've used. I'm not saying it doesn't stretch but it's far less. Have I done a test with 50 different lines and measured it ? No I have not. IMHO I don't need to. Sensitivity is also much better.
Catt reply :
On 5/17/2019 at 6:57 PM, TOXIC said:Just a little story. Was doing a show with a rep from Pure Fishing (Trilene) and he did a little demo. Had a 7ft rod spooled with 12lb mono, walked off about an average cast and held the line with 2 fingers. Told various people to pick up the rod/reel and jerk like they were setting the hook. No one pulled the line out from between his fingers.
I aint sure but it my have been Fishing Facts magazine that did a test years ago with different lines, rod lengths, & anglers of different heights, weights, & body builds.
That line was attached to a meter that showed pressure applied in pounds. The anglers tried different hook sets with different lines.
That maximum pounds applied was 6-8#!
Keep in mind this test & all the test showing line stretch the line is attached to an immovable object!
When we set hook the line starts to stretch, the rod starts to bow, & the bass starts to move.
freelancer27 reply :
Thanks all!
Will try the Defier Armilo and the Sufic advance
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