Line Size..braid On Spinning Gear 2024

flyfisher reply :

So as i am looking at relining my gear fro the upcoming season i am debating on going down to 4lb diameter (15lb test) braid on my spinning setups down from the 6lb diameter (20lb test) i am currently using.

Other than less abrasion resistance and additional line needed does anyone else run this size line on their 2500 series sized reels?

I am thinking 15lb test is plenty strong and smaller line is always better in my mind. I also rarely if ever use a leader.

Thanks

Alpster reply :

I use 15lb power pro on my 2500 (JDM Twin Power). I use 12lb Big Game mono for backing to save on the braid.

Ronnie

LgMouthGambler reply :

I use 30# and a 12# YoZuri leader.

J Francho reply :

I use 15# Power Pro on spinners with no issue. In fact, I like it better than 20 when hitting docks, since it breaks easier if your hung. Most situations, I'm using 20#, though.

Here's a 1500 size Daiwa with 15# Power Pro in action:

This girl made it to the boat:

ww2farmer reply :

I use 15lb Power pro on a 2500 size reel on my wack jig/shaky head set-up. No problems. I also use 10lb Power Pro on a 2500 size reel for dropshotting, and 20lb on a 2500 size reel for dock skipping.........also zero problems there. I used to use 30lb for dock skipping but it was tuff to break when you get those hang ups you just can't free, and the smaller 20lb line flies off the reel better for longer skips.

Diggy reply :

J Francho is the happiest fisherman Ive seen in pics, always with the gameshow host smile.

I use 10lb but based on some replies here, I may step it up, preferably buy another spool.

flyfisher reply :

I think ia m gonna give the 15lb a try on one set up and see how it goes and if it increases my catch rate.

Thanks for all the advice guys.

Felix77 reply :

On 1/25/2013 at 11:50 PM, Diggy said:
J Francho is the happiest fisherman Ive seen in pics, always with the gameshow host smile.

I use 10lb but based on some replies here, I may step it up, preferably buy another spool.

Same here ... 10lb braid (PowerPro) with an 8lb FC leader as needed.

SirSnookalot reply :

10# braid open water and 15# braid in slop, only use spinning gear.

thehooligan reply :

I use 10lb power pro on my 1000 size shimanos, 15 or 20lb on my 2500 ci4, either one works fine.

Darren. reply :

10lb. And I use this on all my spinning gear. Caught my 7.5lb PB during spawn last year in thick slop using 10lb braid and a 10lb leader-on one of my baitcasters. No worries.

Gary Yamamoto has an article on going down to 10lb test, very good read.

http://www.insideline.net/weeklynews/2008/08-0529.htmlhttp://www.insideline.net/weeklynews/2008/08-0529.html

OkobojiEagle reply :

Most strength tests I've read concerning PE lines revealed actual breaking strengths to be nearly double what the stated breaking strength was. Smaller diameter lines have been shown to be harder to see by bass. With these two statements in mind, I fish 10lb test (occasionally 8lb) with spinning gear and haven't encountered any problems with the line being too thin or fragile.

Wayne P. reply :

I don't use a superline that has a smaller diameter than the lighest nylon mono I would use. I don't buy superlines based on their rated strength for spinning gear.

The very small diameter superlines have no shock strength so the 6# mono diameter equivelent superlines are what I use of ulta light and light rigs and the 8# mono diameter equivelent superlines for med to med heavy rigs.

Most of my spinning rigs have 40# Daiwa Samurai or Saltiga. A couple have 30# Dawia Samurai.

Mike L reply :

I use 20# Power Pro with a 10# Floro leader on a 3000 FJ Symtere reel

Mike

SudburyBasser reply :

I use 30# Suffix 832 on a Pflueger President and never had a problem though I must admit I have thought I might be overdoing it. Then again, I've also never had the line break either...

War Eagle 44 reply :

I'm currently using 20# Power Pro on one of my spinning reels and just spooled another with 20# Super 8 Slick to try out, I've heard the S8S is great on spinning tackle. 90% of the time I run a #15 P-Line fluoro leader on my spinning rods. I've no been able to tell my bite percentage has gone down moving up from a 10# fluoro leader plus it gives me extra strength for fishing under and around docks and boat houses.

I was using 30# Power Pro because I actually broke 20# on a hookset on one of my medium spinning rods. I'm sure it was my fault though because that particular line had been through many wind knots before it broke. I had it tied directly to the hook when it happened, using a Zoom lizard weightless. I also had the drag pretty tight. I'm going back to 20# because it casts noticeably better than 30# and I've never once had a problem out of 20# when using a leader.

Marty reply :

I use Daiwa 2500 size reels and have 15# Power Pro on them. I've dragged some big fish through extremely dense, heavy weeds without problems and never had anything happen that told me I need stronger line. One of the previous responses mentioned breaking strength and I think that 15# breaks at a considerably higher number.

QUAKEnSHAKE reply :

8# PP and 10#S8S on my spinning reels never even consider going higher.

SirSnookalot reply :

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I was using 30# Power Pro because I actually broke 20# on a hookset on one of my medium spinning rods.

Not necessary to make a hard hookset with braid. 20# braid is some plenty strong stuff, no need to use heavier in freshwater.

War Eagle 44 reply :

On 1/26/2013 at 2:32 PM, SirSnookalot said:
Not necessary to make a hard hookset with braid. 20# braid is some plenty strong stuff, no need to use heavier in freshwater.

Like I said it was more than likely my fault because the line had gone through a bunch of wind knots prior to breaking. The spinning reel I was using at the time didn't handle braid well at all. I've since switched to a spinning reel with the propulsion lip design and I've not had another wind knot. I also had the drag pretty tight because there's some ok size bass in this pond and I've had trouble getting good hooksets on them in the past.

I caught this one on a spinning reel as you can see with 20# PP and a 15# P-Line fluoro leader on a NetBait T-Mac.

SirSnookalot reply :

@ War Eagle to put it tactfully the fish was lost due to user error. I do like that lip propulsion feature, however my freshwater reels don't have it. Any spinning reel will handle braid, it's how the line is loaded up, braid ready reels is a selling feature, it doesn't really matter if the reel is " ready" or not. I always put tape on the spool before putting the line on, this alleviates any problem. It's ok to have your drag on the tight side, especially with plastics. Tight doesn't mean locked down it means slightly tight, after a few fish you'll have the right feeling on how to set it where it's best for you. I probably do this more for bass fishing than any other species because I'm pulling them out of cover, I do not tighten the drag instead I grab the spool and just pull the fish out, that way I always have a tight line and pressure on the fish.

deep reply :

I like 30# test (Samurai- 6 lb mono diameter) on 2500 size (Shimano 2500 size) reels. Any smaller, and I end up with occasional wind knots.

In any case, lower pound test Samurai costs even more, and I'm happy with the performance of 30#. I do use a leader, so that helps breaking off easy, if and when needed.

J Francho reply :

Samurai is also a braid that breaks pretty close to it's labeled pound test.

SirSnookalot reply :

On 1/27/2013 at 1:54 AM, J Francho said:
Samurai is also a braid that breaks pretty close to it's labeled pound test.

Not a bad idea to be using it. Having 20# braid breaking around 35 pounds IMO is really using 35# line. I like the thought of the challenge instead of fooling myself that I caught this whopper on light line. I caught a 35# cuda on 14# silver thread yesterday, where does that break and would have I landed that fish on Ande tournament which may break closer to label.

flippin and pitchin reply :

I just spooled one of my Soros 3000's with 15 Power Pro Slick. This will be my first experience with it. I like the diameter. It will get a fair test. We'll see. I went with #50 on one bait caster for fishing plastics in heavy vegetation or skipping/pitchin docks. Evidence demands a verdict.

War Eagle 44 reply :

On 1/26/2013 at 6:00 PM, SirSnookalot said:
@ War Eagle to put it tactfully the fish was lost due to user error. I do like that lip propulsion feature, however my freshwater reels don't have it. Any spinning reel will handle braid, it's how the line is loaded up, braid ready reels is a selling feature, it doesn't really matter if the reel is " ready" or not. I always put tape on the spool before putting the line on, this alleviates any problem. It's ok to have your drag on the tight side, especially with plastics. Tight doesn't mean locked down it means slightly tight, after a few fish you'll have the right feeling on how to set it where it's best for you. I probably do this more for bass fishing than any other species because I'm pulling them out of cover, I do not tighten the drag instead I grab the spool and just pull the fish out, that way I always have a tight line and pressure on the fish.

I've been fishing for 12 years so I know how to properly set my drag and spool my reels. I wish I were close to you so I could show you that this particular reel is horrible with braid. It doesn't matter how you spool it on it still gets wind knots. Some people might think the propulsion lip is just a gimmick but it's not, it works. I'm also not saying that all reels have to have this feature in order to handle braid well, but the reel I'm referring to isn't one of them.

I already admitted that it was more than likely my fault for the breakage. I know you've probably been fishing many more years than me and know more about it than I do, I just wanted to say I didn't start fishing last week, I know a little. It seems like you are just dismissing any info that I've given on the grounds that I must be a moron and don't know what I'm talking about.

No disrespect meant to you at all, like I said I'm sure you know more about fishing than me, I just wanted to make the point that I'm not a beginner and I do know a little about what I'm doing.

new2BC4bass reply :

On 1/26/2013 at 5:50 AM, Wayne P. said:
I don't use a superline that has a smaller diameter than the lighest nylon mono I would use. I don't buy superlines based on their rated strength for spinning gear.

The very small diameter superlines have no shock strength so the 6# mono diameter equivelent superlines are what I use of ulta light and light rigs and the 8# mono diameter equivelent superlines for med to med heavy rigs.

Most of my spinning rigs have 40# Daiwa Samurai or Saltiga. A couple have 30# Dawia Samurai.

Never really stopped to think about superlines not having shock strength. I have straightened out a jig hook with the 30# Fireline I have on a MH spinning rod with a steady pull. However, I have also snapped off a new 1/2 oz. jig on a cast with the same setup when the line caught around the tip. I have 10# 832 (4# dia) on a 7'2" Light Fast designated for 4-8# line and 1/32-5/16 oz. lures. I went 832 instead of PP because PP has a 2# dim equivalent....kind of small for my old eyes. Only got to use it a couple times last year after getting the rod/reel. A person wouldn't think that it is possible to snap a lure off on this rod. Seems like it would be too limber to snap off a lure. I'd be interested in knowing if anyone else has ever done so on this or a comparable rod/line combination.

Currently have only 3 baitcasters with braid, 55# Samurai, 40# Sufix Performance and an unknown braid on the 3rd, tho I'm guessing it might be 65# PP. That will be coming off so I can try 20# on this particular reel since it was designed for braid. My brother-in-law uses nothing but 40# PP on all his reels which happen to all be spinning reels. His reels are all in the 2500/3000 size. I've never really noticed a disadvantage with the 40#. Just the opposite since we are almost always fishing in some pretty heavy slop.

Loop_Dad reply :

On 1/26/2013 at 5:19 PM, War Eagle 44 said:
Like I said it was more than likely my fault because the line had gone through a bunch of wind knots prior to breaking. The spinning reel I was using at the time didn't handle braid well at all. I've since switched to a spinning reel with the propulsion lip design and I've not had another wind knot. I also had the drag pretty tight because there's some ok size bass in this pond and I've had trouble getting good hooksets on them in the past.
I caught this one on a spinning reel as you can see with 20# PP and a 15# P-Line fluoro leader on a NetBait T-Mac.

BTW, War Eagle 44, Kudos for you for having your fish on your lap to take the picture, in stead of putting it on the dirt. I bring a net with me even when I fish from bank to land bigger fish easier / safer and have some place to put a fish while unhooking, picture taking etc.

War Eagle 44 reply :

LDad2, thank you for that. I should probably give your idea some thought and look into better ways to handle the fish I catch. I never want to injure them or stress them anymore than I have to, I like to watch them swim away just like I did with the fish in the pic.

Wayne P. reply :

On 1/27/2013 at 10:18 AM, new2BC4bass said:
Never really stopped to think about superlines not having shock strength. I have straightened out a jig hook with the 30# Fireline I have on a MH spinning rod with a steady pull. However, I have also snapped off a new 1/2 oz. jig on a cast with the same setup when the line caught around the tip. I have 10# 832 (4# dia) on a 7'2" Light Fast designated for 4-8# line and 1/32-5/16 oz. lures. I went 832 instead of PP because PP has a 2# dim equivalent....kind of small for my old eyes. Only got to use it a couple times last year after getting the rod/reel. A person wouldn't think that it is possible to snap a lure off on this rod. Seems like it would be too limber to snap off a lure. I'd be interested in knowing if anyone else has ever done so on this or a comparable rod/line combination.

Currently have only 3 baitcasters with braid, 55# Samurai, 40# Sufix Performance and an unknown braid on the 3rd, tho I'm guessing it might be 65# PP. That will be coming off so I can try 20# on this particular reel since it was designed for braid. My brother-in-law uses nothing but 40# PP on all his reels which happen to all be spinning reels. His reels are all in the 2500/3000 size. I've never really noticed a disadvantage with the 40#. Just the opposite since we are almost always fishing in some pretty heavy slop.

If you want to experience what shock strength is all about, use an umbrella rig on a baitcaster with any superline less than 65# test and get a backlash. I use 80# superline for that presentation--been-there-done-that.

JigMe reply :

20lb PowerPro for spinning gears, and I will use leader if fishing clear water. But mostly, just straight braid and never seem to have any issues.

craww reply :

Never had any issues w/15 or 20lb and feel anything beyond that's overkill on a spinning rig. Ive never had much issue with breaking due to lack of stretch as I let the drag do its job and don't get cute with big fish up close. Braid does have poor abrasion Ive found with certain types of cover, but when it comes to the wood, soft vegetation, smooth river rock that I fish... it does great.

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