Hi Guys,
I recently bought a Quantum Accurist Burner reel with specialized Flippin' Switch that how it described in the flyer "gives you complete control for flippin' with precision, and the sleek Accurist lives up to its name by helping you put lures in front of fish – even in tight cover".
Is somebody has an idea how to use that "magic" switch? I've tried to press and/or depress it before or during or after casting... Nothing good has happens...
Any advices will welcome.
If it's off then you use your reel like a regular baitcaster.
When it's on, you have to hold the thumb bar down to keep the spool disengaged. Once you release the thumb bar the spool with re-engage automatically.
On 9/2/2014 at 5:48 PM, Bluebasser86 said:If it's off then you use your reel like a regular baitcaster.
When it's on, you have to hold the thumb bar down to keep the spool disengaged. Once you release the thumb bar the spool with re-engage automatically.
Thank you Bluebasser86!
If I understand that technique right, at first, I have to retain both: the spool and thumb bar when I am starting the cast and after to release the spool but in same time continue to keep the bar down. So, thumb should to slide from spool to thumb bar.
I've tried it exactly like you recommended but when I finally releasing the thumb bar, (while switch is on), the spool continue to roll and not stopping. Probably it is something wrong with switch. All another functions of reel is OK.
Thank you again!
Gimmick tackle.
Sorry you did not ask for our input before you invested in a gimmick reel.
Pitching and flipping with a baitcaster is OK but if you switch to a spinning setup you can control the bait, its placement, skip it under trees and docks, have it enter the water quiet, use lighter line (6 and 8 pound test) and have more fun throwing finesse baits than with a baitcaster.
May I suggest continuing your investment in the reel and have a professional reel mechanic check it out?
Let us know what happens.
Mods, how come the word "mechanic" is blanked out?
On 9/2/2014 at 6:38 PM, Sam said:Mods, how come the word "mechanic" is blanked out?
Thank you Sam!
I already have a couple good spinning reels: Shimano and Boca, but when I found in the Big 5 store the Quantum Accurist 570PT on big-big sale (it was a last reel of that kind - probably the show case sample without box and "as is") I couldn't resist and bite the bait. Anyway for $25 bucks it is a huge bargain even with disable flipp'in switch. I hope I will have a time to fix the switch later.
On 9/2/2014 at 6:37 PM, Sam said:Gimmick tackle.
Sorry you did not ask for our input before you invested in a gimmick reel.
Pitching and flipping with a baitcaster is OK but if you switch to a spinning setup you can control the bait, its placement, skip it under trees and docks, have it enter the water quiet, use lighter line (6 and 8 pound test) and have more fun throwing finesse baits than with a baitcaster.
May I suggest continuing your investment in the reel and have a professional *** check it out?
Let us know what happens.
+1
Sam's dead on. I think it was Diawa who first made these in the late 70's or early 80's (discontuined ) They sent "my" pro a couple and we used them for a second then put them back in the box. Never could get the hang of it and the reels had problems out of the box. I remember we took one a part to see "what made them click". What we came up with was bad workmanship & idea. Ardent make a true "flippin' " reel and it takes some getting use to. If your pitching ( most pitch and call it flippin') for smallies & spots, a spinning reel will be your best bet. A bait caster will give you a lot of practice at picking out bird nests. I use a Lews 7.1:1 speed bait caster for "flippin' " or piching with no problems unless under docks or low branches, then it's a spinning reel.
"Reels are like life, you get what you pay for" Another old fisherman told me that when I was just a kid and it holds true!
I agree with Sam about it being gimmick tackle but Im gonna say I like pitching and flipping with bait casters a lot more.
I had a reel with it 20+ years ago and it was not really a feature I liked. A far better option is being able to re-engage the reel by lifting the release button with your thumb without turning the handle as some reels do. I pitch with a baitcaster all the time and engaging the reel with a turn of the handle is simply second nature.
When you are flipping, you aren't really casting. You just pull the line in front of the reel in by hand. The flipping switch is there so you can pull line off the reel easily. Say you have a right handed baitcaster and you are holding it in your right hand. To pull line off without the flipping switch, you would press the thumb bar pull the line off and then some how reengage the spool by turning the handle (hard to do with a right handed reel in your right hand and line in the other). With the flipping switch, the spool is automatically reengaged when you take your thumb off the thumb bar.
Pitching is just another method of casting short distances with accuracy.
On 9/2/2014 at 9:14 PM, paleus said:When you are flipping, you aren't really casting. You just pull the line in front of the reel in by hand. The flipping switch is there so you can pull line off the reel easily. Say you have a right handed baitcaster and you are holding it in your right hand. To pull line off without the flipping switch, you would press the thumb bar pull the line off and then some how reengage the spool by turning the handle (hard to do with a right handed reel in your right hand and line in the other). With the flipping switch, the spool is automatically reengaged when you take your thumb off the thumb bar.
Pitching is just another method of casting short distances with accuracy.
This^^^^^. Sit at home with you reel and a bait on and press your thumb bar down and then let it go, if it comes back up then the flipping switch is on, when it is off the thumb bar will remain in the down position. As Paleus already mentioned, flipping is done with line already out so it only helps when you want to get a little more distance, without the flipping switch you press the thumb bar down and then move the handle to engage the reel again. I don't like it for flipping but I do like it when I'm pitching to targets although I no longer have a reel with a flipping switch.
On 9/2/2014 at 6:38 PM, Sam said:Mods, how come the word "mechanic" is blanked out?
I have had the same problem with other....innocent....words. I hope you get an answer as I would like to know myself why certain words can't be used on this forum.
Those "Instagage" switches are clumsy to use IMO and tend to be a weak link mechanically.
Don't use the Flipping Switch, just use the reel normal like, that's my advise...
Wow. So much misplaced hate.
OP.- your accurist is a great reel that will serve you well for years to come. All 4 of mine have been rock solid for years and years. The flipping switch is not a gimmick. .....but rather. ...mostly unneeded. It is intended to re-engage your reel without I'm having to "click" your handle- giving you the tiny bit of time to switch hands ( most people cast right/reel right) if a bass hits your bait on its initial fall. That's for pitching.
For flipping, which is where you pull line out with your left hand and feather your bait in and out of heavy cover, the flippin switch is intended to let you pull out a bit more line/let your bait fall deeper than the amount of line you pulled out in our left hand. ....while still being able to engage and set the hook without switching hands ( again, right hand cast/reel) . It works just fine if you can get used to it and it works with your skill set/ technique.
I never use my switch as I buy left handed reels to pitch and flip/punch with- and don't need to switch hands when "casting". I have so many accurists not for the switch- but because they're solid reels that can be had for amazing prices sometimes ( as evidenced by your deal) .
Quite honestly, if youre just starting out pitching and flipping- I would leave the switch off until you know what you "need " it for. You may never need it.
Enjoy our reel!
If you end up believing the haters above about the gimmicky "unprofessional " equipment you just purchased..... I will gladly buy it from you for the price you got it and ill gladly pay shipping to 32305.
There is a reason why novelties like the Flipping Switch and too specialized tackle like suffer sudden deaths, my old XLT Plus Abus, Black Maxes and Daiwas from the 80´s have the flipping switch feature, A solution to a problem that never really existed, just push your thumbar, pull the line you need and re engage your spool.
Long before Ardent came up with the "novelty"
Shimano Bushmaster ( flipping specific reel )
On 9/2/2014 at 9:23 PM, new2BC4bass said:I have had the same problem with other....innocent....words. I hope you get an answer as I would like to know myself why certain words can't be used on this forum.
*Lunk3rhunt* is my favorite "swear word" innocent term that I've found so far.
On 9/3/2014 at 12:17 AM, kikstand454 said:Wow. So much misplaced hate.
OP.- your accurist is a great reel that will serve you well for years to come. All 4 of mine have been rock solid for years and years. The flipping switch is not a gimmick. .....but rather. ...mostly unneeded. It is intended to re-engage your reel without I'm having to "click" your handle- giving you the tiny bit of time to switch hands ( most people cast right/reel right) if a bass hits your bait on its initial fall. That's for pitching.
For flipping, which is where you pull line out with your left hand and feather your bait in and out of heavy cover, the flippin switch is intended to let you pull out a bit more line/let your bait fall deeper than the amount of line you pulled out in our left hand. ....while still being able to engage and set the hook without switching hands ( again, right hand cast/reel) . It works just fine if you can get used to it and it works with your skill set/ technique.
I never use my switch as I buy left handed reels to pitch and flip/punch with- and don't need to switch hands when "casting". I have so many accurists not for the switch- but because they're solid reels that can be had for amazing prices sometimes ( as evidenced by your deal) .
Quite honestly, if youre just starting out pitching and flipping- I would leave the switch off until you know what you "need " it for. You may never need it.
Enjoy our reel!
If you end up believing the haters above about the gimmicky "unprofessional " equipment you just purchased..... I will gladly buy it from you for the price you got it and ill gladly pay shipping to 32305.
Hate? That's a redicilous statement, are you in drama school?
Sam's first post was a rather derogatory assessment of the reel. .....don't you think? Espicially since he apparently had limited / no idea what the OP was asking. Who the hell flips with a spinning outfit? Farther down, someone agreed with Sam's remarks and added the old " get what you pay for" adage.......which doesn't apply to this reel as it original market value was over $100 and is just discontinued - hence the value pricing.On 9/3/2014 at 2:10 AM, Alonerankin2 said:Hate? That's a redicilous statement, are you in drama school?
Furthermore, if you have been on the forum long, you are aware that the mere mention of anything QUANTUM will bring the naysayers out of the woodwork. Most of whom have little to any experience with the brand, and are regurgitating bad info passed on from some other naysayer.
So. ....as common vernacular would dictate- haters gonna hate. *shrug*
The Jest of this thread, was not a attack on Quantum as you suggest, but rather a fact based realization, that flipping switches, levers, etc. are not needed, and they are a weak link, they often confuse new users. Personally if a person wants to use Quantum, that's their choice.. The proverbial " you get what you pay for " is also Fact filled, predominantly...
I also took notice of you're proposed hate statement concerning Flippers who use Spinning.
I have fished with a man who does just that, and it was amazing the skill he demonstrates as His preferred method...
Like I said, you're use of Haters going to Hate, is ludicrous ....
kikstand's 1st reply is pretty much spot on....
that second one about who flips with a spinning outfit.... watched my dad do it my entire life. i've never really understood it, like many things he does, but i know it works for him! one spot i saw his technique really shine is when he and i were trout fishing in Montana and were in some tight spots to cast.... that flipping technique of his on the spinning gear had him hooking up with fish as i was ripping my lures out of the trees!
now back to the OP.... the switch is not a gimmick per say, but certainly something that is not needed and widely un-used. that reel however is a fine reel and once you forget about that switch and just use it normally, you will be very happy with it!
http://www.bassresource.com/fish/flip-pitch.html
Just so we are all on the same page here. ....
Excuse me but since when you shouldn´t flip with spinning gear or since when flipping is exclusive for baitcasting gear ?
I've got one. Have used the flipping switch maybe twice. No other issues to report other than it loves lube. Continual, every few trips lube. Side note, years ago I had one of the old Daiwa models with the flippin' switch. I took it apart to clean it and never got it back together again where it would work. I eventually pitched it.
On 9/3/2014 at 5:52 AM, kikstand454 said:http://www.bassresource.com/fish/flip-pitch.html
Just so we are all on the same page here. ....
pretty good article.... if you actually look at the very last bullet at the bottom, it mentions flipping finesse baits on spinning gear....
On 9/3/2014 at 8:17 AM, buzzed bait said:pretty good article.... if you actually look at the very last bullet at the bottom, it mentions flipping finesse baits on spinning gear....
Yes I'm aware. I posted the article as many people confuse flipping with pitching. I made my spinning/flipping comment as a tongue in cheek kinda thing. .... like "who doesn't like peanut butter and jelly ! !??" ( obviously some people don't. I don't in fact. But its a common assumption that everyone does)
And the topic was about the accurist with the flippin switch- which is a baitcast reel. So I was kinda sticking with that direction.
I appologize if I suddenly offended any finesse guys that flip with spinning tackle. That wasn't my intention at all! ( nor was it relevent to my point. ..or the OPs question. .)
I guess I was just frustrated that the initial advice was that getting this $100+ reel for $25 could be viewed as a mistake and that he " should've asked about it here first". Especially since he had already purchased the reel. He didn't ask about anyone's oppinion of the reel. .. he asked how to use it.
Blah. I'm just hypersensitive about quantum bashing. Ill get over it. I apologize for derailing the thread. Flippin switch is useless....don't use it. The accurist is a great reel.
Carry on.