Do 13 fishing rods run heavy? (Envy Black) 2025
BigBass'n_Harrison reply :
Does anybody who has experience with 13 fishing think that the power ratings are accurate or underrated/overrated? Looking at the Envy Black rods and I see nothing but good reviews on TW.
Thanks Harrison
punch reply :
13 runs pretty accurate to their ratings in my experience.
microotter reply :
I have a 71mhxf envy black. It seems pretty accurate although I don’t have a ton of experience with mh rods from multiple manufacturers.
BoatSquirrel reply :
I have 3 and all seem to be lighter than claimed.
Chance_Taker4 reply :
I have an Omen Black that runs pretty identical to Kistlers' power ratings.
DogBone_384 reply :
On 3/2/2019 at 10:31 PM, Chance_Taker4 said:I have an Omen Black that runs pretty identical to Kistlers' power ratings.
I'll second your comment. They're my two favorite brands.
BigBass'n_Harrison reply :
On 3/2/2019 at 8:12 PM, microotter said:I have a 71mhxf envy black. It seems pretty accurate although I don’t have a ton of experience with mh rods from multiple manufacturers.
Good to know... what are your thoughts on it’s sensativity?
On 3/2/2019 at 10:31 PM, Chance_Taker4 said:I have an Omen Black that runs pretty identical to Kistlers' power ratings.
Okay thank you
On 3/2/2019 at 9:43 PM, BoatSquirrel said:I have 3 and all seem to be lighter than claimed.
As long as it’s not like a full power rating light I don’t mind, if it’s just on the lighter side of a MH and like a M then I’m not worried.
Thank you everyone for the repsonses!
microotter reply :
On 3/3/2019 at 1:32 AM, BigBass'n_Harrison said:Good to know... what are your thoughts on it’s sensativity?
It is very sensitive and light. I use it mostly as my bottom contact rod.
BigBass'n_Harrison reply :
On 3/3/2019 at 3:36 AM, microotter said:It is very sensitive and light. I use it mostly as my bottom contact rod.
Well i just realized that I’ve been saying Envy Black when I really meant M-U-S-E. Oops.... hopefully they are relatively similar even tho the Envy is $100+ more. Thanks for you input!
had to put dashes in that because otherwise it becomes 3 stars. Annoying lol
Glenn reply :
On 3/3/2019 at 5:02 AM, BigBass'n_Harrison said:had to put dashes in that because otherwise it becomes 3 stars. Annoying lol
Might want to try it first before assuming...
Muse
Muse Black
13 Omen
13 Muse Black
NYWayfarer reply :
On 3/3/2019 at 6:35 AM, Glenn said:
Might want to try it first before assuming...
Muse
Muse Black
13 Omen
13 Muse Black
Does this mean the company that shall not be named is back in good graces with Bass Resource or at least has a truce?
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 3/3/2019 at 7:02 AM, NYWayfarer said:Does this mean the company that shall not be named is back in good graces with Bass Resource or at least has a truce?
Yes, as long as everyone can behave themselves. Hopefully the spammers/prostaffers don't come back and it doesn't have to change back.
Matt_3479 reply :
I have 1 7’6” heavy extra fast and it feels prettt much what it’s rated for! Excellent power, excellent sensitivity and find it a decent value for money! I’ve seen them on sale now getting rid of old stock and they are a killer rod at that price!
newyorktoiowa57 reply :
On 3/3/2019 at 2:06 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Yes, as long as everyone can behave themselves. Hopefully the spammers/prostaffers don't come back and it doesn't have to change back.
So it was overpromotion that caused them to be kicked before?
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 3/4/2019 at 11:01 AM, newyorktoiowa57 said:So it was overpromotion that caused them to be kicked before?
partially yes.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
Ratings can’t be “accurate “ or “true” because there is no standard only subjective descriptions. A better way to get the info you’re after is to compare to a rod line you’re familiar with.
michaelsrex reply :
I'd love to hear more details on the new Envy Black 2s.it seems even 13 doesn't want to talk about it.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
I had 7'6" Omen Black 2
Poor quality bad ergonomics leading to subpar sensitivity, returned it.
GeekFisher reply :
On 3/3/2019 at 2:06 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Yes, as long as everyone can behave themselves. Hopefully the spammers/prostaffers don't come back and it doesn't have to change back.
Seems like the grace period is over ?
Bluebasser86 reply :
thirteen omen black envy
On 5/25/2019 at 7:47 AM, GeekFisher said:Seems like the grace period is over ?
nope, not that I'm aware of and the words aren't censored.
GeekFisher reply :
*** 13 fishing
Glenn reply :
Try now. If it still does it, then you're spelling it wrong.
GeekFisher reply :
***
On 5/25/2019 at 1:14 PM, Glenn said:Try now. If it still does it, then you're spelling it wrong.
Spelled it [One-3] without the brackets and hyphen
Glenn reply :
Why did you spell it that way?
Spell it like everyone else does - 13 fishing - and it works just fine.
TheRodFather reply :
I originally built my 6 rod system with the Omen Blacks. I liked the ergos of the rod, and the sensitivity was good at the price point in my opinion.
I had 2, maybe 3 that broke the first 2 guides worth of tip off on hook sets or casts. 2 were 7 ft (ish, I think they are 7-1 but im not sure), and the other was a 6 something MH spinning rod.
One was replaced at the tackle shop without too much trouble, the others I re tipped because they had some age on them and I didnt feel right trying to get a free rod.
I do have a bit of a bad taste in my mouth about them though, and as I move forward, I won't be buying more of them.
Kidflex reply :
I have the 1st gen envy black 7’1” medium xfast spinning rod and it is accurate and more sensitive than my 6’10 med croix legend elite. I also have the 7’1” envy black heavy xfast and it’s a broomstick.
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