Hp Question 16Ft Boat 2024
St. Augustine reply :
Question for you all. I am looking at a 2012 tracker v16 laker, which is a 16ft v bottom aluminum boat. For the record, I am not looking to break any water speed records, I just want the boat to go on plane and get where it needs to go but not lightning fast. The boat is rated up to a 40hp motor. The package I have picked out right now comes with 9.9 HP 4 stroke electric start evinrude. Mostly it will be me and one other person but at times it will be 2 adults and two kids. I can't really afford to go bigger on the motor right now. The rep from tracker said this motor won't break speed records but it will do the job.
Thoughts?
fadetoblack21 reply :
I run a 2002 Tracker Pro Angler V16 with a 50hp 4 stroke. The boat I own is a couple hundred pounds heavier unloaded than what you are looking at (my boat is somewhere around 1000lbs with motor to the 650 listed for the boat your looking at). I run about 30 mph on plane and struggle to get on plane with 2 people in the boat. Actually, with 2 people in the boat I had to have my passenger move to the front of the boat to get on plane in a reasonable amount of time. I ended up installing one of those hydrofoil fins on my motor and it planes like a dream now.
Now saying all of that, I really have to wonder how long it will take to get that boat on plane with a 9.9hp motor.
Sfritr reply :
First, welcome to the site.
With that setup you may not even get on plane with only a 9.9 and a load of gear and passengers. Always go big or go home when it comes to motors in my opinion. You will never hear a fisherman say "I have too much power"
I am sure others will chime in on this topic but I think most would agree that you will need more HP to accomodate a full load. Have you consisered a used boat? You may be able to get a similar setup with more HP for the same price.
Here are some great articles about boat and motors that may help your decision
http://www.bassresou...com/bass-boats/
CFFF 1.5 reply :
You will be lucky to get that boat on plane with a 9.9. I wouldn't go any less than a 30hp. If you can't afford the bigger motor, why not get a couple year old boat with a motor that still has the factory warranty.
Nice_Bass reply :
I would be a bit worried about getting on plane with that.
St. Augustine reply :
What exactly does on plane me then? If I don't get on plane what does that do? Meaning the bow of the boat is still up high, the stern low?
St. Augustine reply :
Ok, I looked at finances, and I think I can swing a 15HP four stroke, would that be suffecient?
freebie reply :
you are going to need at least 25hp to accomplish what you are asking about.with 2 guys and light gear you might get on plane with a 15 hp. forget that with 2 adults and 2 kids. I think that if you are stretching to afford the bare minimum hp then maybe you should look at the used market. there are tons of boats out there for not alot of coin.
Diablos reply :
The boat in my sig is a 16ft Princecraft with a Merc 30hp. The boat and motor weigh in around 850lbs and over 1100 with me and gear.
My boat gets up on plane slow and tops out around 19-21mph.
I couldn't imagine a 9.9.
My buddy has PolarKraft Outfitter with a Power Pole and $2K Humminbird and decided to put a 9.9 ETEC. If he could he would easily trade in the Power Pole and expensive fishfinder for a bigger motor after one season of fishing.
Hi Salenity reply :
I have a 14' with a old 18h on it. It will plane out with my Wife and 2 kids and will run 23mph on GPS.
Bluebasser86 reply :
I don't think you'll get on plane with that motor. I had a 14ft flatbottom johnboat with a 15hp johnson tiller motor that wouldn't get on plane unless it was empty. I have a 16ft Lowe semi V with a 60hp (max hp rating is 60) that will do about 32 loaded with me and a friend and all our gear (usually way too much of it). You will never hear yourself say "I wish I'd bought a smaller motor". I would upgrade to at least a 20hp to make sure you can get on plane, otherwise you're going to be crawling along and wasting gas because you motor is working so much harder when it can't get on plane.
Hi Salenity reply :
On 3/23/2012 at 7:39 AM, Hi Salenity said:I have a 14' with a old 18h on it. It will plane out with my Wife and 2 kids and will run 23mph on GPS.
BTW max HP on my boat is 25 and I am looking for a 25 to put on it.
St. Augustine reply :
My guess is that for 90% of the time, it will be me and one other person. The other times, my wife and two kids plus me. I started this off by saying I am not looking to break any speed records. Most of the inland lakes here in MI are not all that big.
My las boat was a 12 ft Jon boat with a trolling motor and oars! My question still remains though, what does "on plane" mean, and with the 15hp 4 stroke, can I at least get around the lake? One friend told me the 15 with just me will fly, with two guys it will take a while to get on plane, but it will do it. Another guy, with money to burn and a $40,000 bass boat that is a driveway ornament says I need at least a 25.
If I get the 15, give me a scenario of how it would work in your opinion. Thanks.
fadetoblack21 reply :
On 3/23/2012 at 9:28 AM, St. Augustine said:My guess is that for 90% of the time, it will be me and one other person. The other times, my wife and two kids plus me. I started this off by saying I am not looking to break any speed records. Most of the inland lakes here in MI are not all that big.
My las boat was a 12 ft Jon boat with a trolling motor and oars! My question still remains though, what does "on plane" mean, and with the 15hp 4 stroke, can I at least get around the lake? One friend told me the 15 with just me will fly, with two guys it will take a while to get on plane, but it will do it. Another guy, with money to burn and a $40,000 bass boat that is a driveway ornament says I need at least a 25.
If I get the 15, give me a scenario of how it would work in your opinion. Thanks.
A boat on plane means the boat is riding on top of the water instead of plowing through the water. A boat on plane will move with less resistance and burn much less gas.
With your scenario of 2 people minimum I would guess that even the 15hp will not be enough to get you on plane, and if it does it will take a very long time. I tend to agree with what freebie said about the used market. You may have better choices if you look into the used market.
NBR reply :
My take on this is always go with themaximum rated HP.
Bluebasser86 reply :
I would guess that it's going to take at least a 20 to get you on plane with anything other than you in the boat. My 60hp on my 16' semi V has to work when it's loaded down with lots of gear and one of my 300+ pound friendsl. I guess one of the things that would really help here is the size of the bodies of water you're going to be using it on. If it's only going to be on small lakes that you aren't running far on then you'd be fine with the little motor. If you're going to be going to bigger bodies of water you'll want a bigger motor. The gas you save by getting a motor large enough to get your motor on plane will make up for the difference in orginal cost, maybe really quickly with the way gas prices are going.
MichBassMan reply :
With this boat if you have less than a 25 or 30hp you will not get up on plane. Meaning your bow will always be "plowing" water. You'll have a slow,bumpy,wet ride. Additionally a smaller HP will be working very hard and burning gas like crazy. A 15 or under would be ok for trolling. You'll be disapointed with an underpowered boat.
St. Augustine reply :
Ok I took all of your advice. Just purchased a 1997 bass tracker 165 fully rigged out, trolling motor, fish finder, the works with a trailer and a 40 HP motor all for 4995. !!!!!!!!!
Thoughts?
Bluebasser86 reply :
As long as it's a good strong running motor and the hull has no problems it should be a good boat it sounds like.
freebie reply :
sounds like you made a much wiser choice. that boat wont break speed record with a 40 but it will plane and move along pretty well. I'm sure you probably saved a bunch of money as well. now you can save up for a big boat while you learn how to run that one. plus if you do find some bottom or rocks it won't hurt as much as it does in a new boat.
St. Augustine reply :
Saving money was certainly part of it. The v16 outfit properly would have benn over 11,000. This 1997 was just under 5,000, plus the wife was real happy with it.
I think I made a wise choice. I didn't want something so big that I was intimidated by its size. Being my first boat outside a 12ft rowboat with oars and a trolling motor that ran about 1/2 mph I thought it wise to get some experience first too.
It's big enough to go fishing on and that's what I wanted. It will fit the kids and wife too when needed.
Thoughts on launching and pulling the boat out, I am all ears.
Way2slow reply :
With the motors you are looking at, picture yourself in a river barge. That's about the speed you will have and what the boat will look like going through the water.
If you want to get it on plane without having to labor hard and having the passenger move to the front of the boat, look at 60hp motor and don't over prop it
St. Augustine reply :
way2slow, are you talking about the inital question here? i just bought a 16ft bass tracker with a 40hp, that cant be like a barge?
Way2slow reply :
If I understand the poster, he's asking about a 9.9 or 15 on the boat, not a 40. Even with a 40, I would think the boat fully loaded and two people would be difficult to get on plane unless you proped it down to where you would have to watch your rpm at WOT with a lite load.
Deadeye-1 reply :
St Augustine,
You'll be fine with your new Tracker boat with the 40. I'd say you made the better choice. The dealer will tell you whatever you want to hear to make the sale, at least some will. With the 1997 Tracker you get to learn running a boat, fishing from a boat, and IF you want to spend the money later for a bigger one.
Congrads on your new toy, now go get some fish!!
St. Augustine reply :
way2slow:
My inital question here, you are correct. I was looking at a new tracker V16 Laker. With that I was entertaining the thoughts of a 9.9 or 15HP motor. The boat was rated max at 40HP.
After the great advice here, I went looking at the used market. The price of the V16 Laker with a 9.9 and a trailer was a little over $8,300. With a 15 it was more, and with a 25 or 40 much much more.
So again with the advice here, i turned to the used market. I found and bought a 1997 Bass Tracker 165 Pro. It came as a package. Trailer, fish finder, trolling motor, and a 40HP 3 stroke mercury. My only concern was the 2 stroke compared to the 4 stroke. But price mattered, and I got this boat for 4,995 out the door, threw a $1,000 down and financed the rest a $100 a month for the rest. Plus momma was real happy with the boat itself and the fact it was much much cheaper.
Anyhow, this boat is rated at 40HP max which it has. I just hope the 2 stroke thing is ok. I know the 4 strokes are quiter, but as for my first real boat outside a 12 ft V bottom that was oar powered and an ancient trolling motor, this certainly is a step up in my newbie opinion.
Any thoughts you might have on this new rig, I am 255LBS of all ears. Thanks...
Way2slow reply :
I keep forgetting how much they have down rated the hulls hp ratings on these newer boats. Wasn't too long ago that same hull would have been rated for at least a 75. As far as performance, you will be much happier with the two stroke. Fuel economy and noise, the four stroke will beat it hands down. The nice part about the 40 two stroke, it's not a gas hog like the bigger motors so you won't be too bad there.
If you find you have trouble getting on plane with a full load, you can go to a smaller pitch prop and that will help greatly. A lot of people have a tendency to over prop one, thinking that the bigger prop will give it more speed. That's usually just the oposite, they actually don't, they just make the much harder to get on plane and can actually make the boat run a little slower. Also, as dorky as they look, the hydrofoils help out a lot also
At 255 and another person with live well full and the other gear, I have a feeling you are going to be wanting to try a smaller pitch prop, your wife is probably going to get tired of having to go to the front of the boat so it will get on plane. You may want to go to a smaller prop and the foil to get it to pop out of the hole.
Diablos reply :
If this is your first trailerable boat, practice backing up with it till you feel comfortable. Back up how you want. Don't let people tell you that you have to use mirrors only.
I bring a pair of cheap waders with me all the time in case there is a need to get in the water. I don't like being wet from the chest down when fishing even in warm weather.
Keep a checklist in the boat for launching and pulling until it becomes second nature.
GLADES reply :
Just a tip. Practice backing the boat into the water at the ramp during the weekdays or when it is not busy until you get the hang of it. Nothing worse than a newbie struggling at the ramp, and then watching his boat sink because they forgot to put in the plug. Sometimes, vertical guide poles on the end of your trailer can help you see where the trailer is as you go down the ramp. Practice backing it straight in, and 90* back in's from right and left.
A suggestion: Make yourself a to-do checklist of things so you can establish a routine...safety equipment/fishing poles/tackle box, ignition key in hand, gas/oil verified, battery charged, install the drain plug, remove the motor brace, remove the straps, etc. and then reverse the procedure as you leave.
Congrats on your first boat.
MichBassMan reply :
Unplug your lights befor puting them in the lake. Allways raise your motor befor backing into the water, AND before taking it out. Go slow at first, have fun!
Way2slow reply :
Ya'll are making all the great suggestions, but you are leaving out one very important one that every does at least once.
DON'T FORGET TO PUT THE PLUG IN!!
Unless it's pouring down rain, I always put the plug in when I hook to it at the house, then double check it again when I get to the lake, it's just tooooo dammmm easy to forget the thing and it can definitly raise the pucker factor when you stop for the first time and you start wondering where that water in the floor is coming from.
The motor is either being supported by the trailering supports built into it or on a transome saver. Make your standard routine to undo the tie downs, trim the motor up to get it off the supports and check the drain plug. If you feel you need to unplug the trailer connector, do that as you are headed back to the rear of the boat to do all the previous mentioned. Personally, I never unplug mine, with good lights, it's not necessary.
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 3/27/2012 at 9:49 AM, Way2slow said:Ya'll are making all the great suggestions, but you are leaving out one very important one that every does at least once.
DON'T FORGET TO PUT THE PLUG IN!!
Unless it's pouring down rain, I always put the plug in when I hook to it at the house, then double check it again when I get to the lake, it's just tooooo dammmm easy to forget the thing and it can definitly raise the pucker factor when you stop for the first time and you start wondering where that water in the floor is coming from.
The motor is either being supported by the trailering supports built into it or on a transome saver. Make your standard routine to undo the tie downs, trim the motor up to get it off the supports and check the drain plug. If you feel you need to unplug the trailer connector, do that as you are headed back to the rear of the boat to do all the previous mentioned. Personally, I never unplug mine, with good lights, it's not necessary.
Check you're states regulations. It's illegal here in Kansas to transport your boat with a plug in the boat or livewell.
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