Fast Tournament Boats... 2024
South FLA reply :
Many of us dream of being BASS or FLW Pro and would like to have their fast fully loaded rigs, but I haven't seen any run an Allison or Bullet, why is this?
Would they not have an advantage of getting to a spot faster than the next guy or extending their time on the water? If it were me I would run an Allison XB-21 with the max allowable horsepower.
Its probably that Allison or Bullet are from smaller manufactures, but if anyone has a better explanation please elaborate.
-HAWK- reply :
The front and rear decks look pretty small. Seems like the boat is more orientated for speed than fishability.
South FLA reply :
QuoteThe front and rear decks look pretty small. Seems like the boat is more orientated for speed than fishability.
Sorry, I posted the XB-21 2+2 image that seat 4 people. I've corrected the pic to show the bigger casting deck on the regular tournament boat deck.
bassdocktor reply :
Not 100% sure about why they don't run those brands but I do believe there is a 250HP limit atleast in BASS.
R520dvx reply :
First ... there is a 250 HP limit .... also those go fast boats don't fish very well from a stability and room standpoint. Had a good friend that ordered an Allison ... waited forever to get it .... then sold it about 6 weeks later because he hated fishing out of it. Real fast though !!
Md reply :
Getting to a spot first is great...but these guys have boats that are versatile. They have to be able to fish all over the country from southern reservoirs to the great lakes. Also, things such as storage, reliable livewells and maneuverability are huge factors just to name a few. Getting to a spot first doesn't mean your going to catch more or better fish anyway. Just ask Steve Kennedy...he fished out of the little aluminum for years and cleaned everyones clock. It was the same one that he used at this years Classic.
cart7t reply :
A couple things.
1. AS stated, go fast boats aren't always the best to fish out of.
2. Go fast boat builders don't build in high enough volume to justify spending $$$ to sponsor pro's to help sell their boats. Those boats are appealing to a rather small minority of anglers and those anglers already know about those brands. Advertising and sponsorship deals with pro's would gain them little.
moloch16 reply :
There are some faster prototypes used by the pros check this one out here:
Catt reply :
Straight line speed over a smooth surface is fine, now if I could find a lake that fits that profile. 
Triton21 reply :
My first Bass Boat was a Bullet. It was an '84, 19'6" with a 200 Merc. Fished great and got to my fish quick. I loved it. Was like "Dirt Tracking" on the Mountain Lakes in E KY. Great Fun!!!!!! I HAVE A 'NEED FOR SPEED'.
Kelley
Tuckman reply :
Gambler has been putting a few sponserships out there now...They might not be as quite fast as an Allison or a Bullet, but they have a ton of creature comforts, storage, a huge front deck, and there wont be many boats passing a Gambler down the lake. Not to mention they just look hella' nasty.
On a side note One of my buddies picked up a new Stratos 294PXL with a 200 Vmax on back, and that boat flat out leaves 225's and some 250's in its wake...especially those Heavy Rangers...I think that the reason that the famous "Ranger Ride" is so important is because it takes so long to get to your spot...
8-)
Big Tom reply :
I love me some Ranger Ride though. The best riding boat I have been on by far is a Skeeter. They ain't slow either.
Bass Dude reply :
QuoteThe front and rear decks look pretty small. Seems like the boat is more orientated for speed than fishability.
I fished out of a Bullet and you are dead on. This boat hauled major a-- and rode really nice, but it was horrible to fish out of. At that time I was a co-angler and the back deck was VERY small. The storage sucked too!! The livewells weren't all that great either.
Btech reply :
I'm sure they are also picking comfortably too being on the boat for days at a time all week.
5bass reply :
cart is right. The cookie cutter boats are much easier to find because they make so many and they spend a pile of money each year on advertising.
That said....I love my Gambler! If you ever get a chance, crawl around in one for a little while and see what they're all about.
Way2slow reply :
It would take a top named Pro to give one of those hydro rockets enough exposure to make it worth while for them to sponsor one. Then I don't think you could give one to a top name pro to fish out of it day in and day out. Storage ain't the best, Allison's actually handle rough water fairly well, but a Bullet is like being in a jon boat. I've never been in a Gambler so I can't comment on it.
One point being over looked also is the fact that usually these boats are very load sensitive. Get a Pro's full tourney load, full live well and limit the HP to 250, they are not that much faster. Dang sure not enough to offset how how bad they are going to beat you up day in and day out. If you spent 270 days a year working and dang near living in automobile, would you rathen spend it in a Corvette, or a Cadilac.
The Next KVD reply :
Lets not forget that the price is outragous! A Allison w/ a 175 Optimax is about $45,000! For that price I could get a Z19 w/ a 225 Optimax that will have alot better fishability, decent speed, and better resale value. + I can find one anywhere.
5bass reply :
QuoteOne point being over looked also is the fact that usually these boats are very load sensitive. Get a Pro's full tourney load, full live well and limit the HP to 250, they are not that much faster.
This is the point where hull designs come into play.
Casey99 reply :
Sponsors. Since Triton/Skeeter sponsors BASS, guess what boat most pros are going to run. Same thing with FLW. They are sponsored by Ranger, most of the boats out there on the tour are Ranger.
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
Quotecart is right. The cookie cutter boats are much easier to find because they make so many and they spend a pile of money each year on advertising.That said....I love my Gambler! If you ever get a chance, crawl around in one for a little while and see what they're all about.
I plan on it about 30 days from now.... ;D
Bass Dude reply :
QuoteSponsors. Since Triton/Skeeter sponsors BASS, guess what boat most pros are going to run. Same thing with FLW. They are sponsored by Ranger, most of the boats out there on the tour are Ranger.
FLW Pros fish Ranger more for the bonus money they can get rather just the fact that Ranger is the major sponsor.
Tuckman reply :
To be considered a priority registrant in any FLW tournament you have to own a Ranger Boat...they have a secondary deal for stratos and champion owners for the stren series, but all the other boat brand owners are left to scrabble over whatever is left...If your in the finals in a FLW major you may have to promote the FLW sponsors regardless of your loyalties.
Bass Dude reply :
I was just on the Bullet website---take a look at Model 20CC. It's a center console with one seat. What would you do with this?? Not to mention the color scheme---it's just not my style!!
J Francho reply :
QuoteI was just on the Bullet website---take a look at Model 20CC. It's a center console with one seat. What would you do with this?? Not to mention the color scheme---it's just not my style!!
Get your own, better color scheme, fish alone, and have a 360° room to move around. Personally, I'd like a center console, but one that seats two or three. There's a guy that has a Bullet 20CC on another forum, and he has two jump seats that pop in place for passengers.
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
That is a freakin' tough looking boat!!!!
5bass reply :
QuoteQuotecart is right. The cookie cutter boats are much easier to find because they make so many and they spend a pile of money each year on advertising.That said....I love my Gambler! If you ever get a chance, crawl around in one for a little while and see what they're all about.
I plan on it about 30 days from now.... ;D
Right on!
PlasticsJunkie reply :
My dream boat is a skeeter, I plan on buying one when I get out of college. Fished out of one for two days and absolutely loved the boat, had a great layout, was comfortable to fish out of, and it had alot of get up and go in her too.
South FLA reply :
Just setting the record straight here on Allison's XB-21 BasSport storage capacity according to their website:
"Compartments: With over 70 cu. ft. of volume, the BasSport Pro has more rod storage, more tackle storage, more organized storage, and more convenience storage than any other bass boat. All lids have waterproof, flush mounted locks that automatically latch securely when they are closed. Pneumatic lid supports are standard.
Rod & Tackle: Allison offers the most rod storage and versatility with 3 types of storage for up to 30 rods. (1.) Organized storage with holders and tubes, (2.) Quick-draw storage allows 5-second access to rods while protecting and keeping them from under foot until needed, and (3.) Bulk storage making it a snap to bundle all rods, stash them in the compartment, and dash back to the weigh-in. Additional quick-draw and other rod storage in the port side compartment can be ordered to almost double the rod storage capacity. A variety of Tackle boxes and trays are designed to hang just under the lids of 5 compartments with up to 12 positions. Other tucked away tackle and accessory boxes are available. "
Sounds like any pro can fit everything they could fit in their Ranger, Triton, Skeeter, BassCat, or Champion.
Redline due us a favor buy an Allison XB-21 BasSport, put a Mercury 250 Pro XS with a 28" Pitch Hydromotive. I'll pick it up for you and we can run it against your Ranger and then rate fishing comfort levels at next years Road Trip Lake! ;D
Catt reply :
Bring that Allison down to the Big Pond during February or March & then rate fishing comfort levels.
thetr20one reply :
Bring any Allison,Bullet or Gambler to Lake Erie and se how comfortable the fishing becomes. When I fished the ABA last year a gentleman with a 08 Gambler decided it would be better to borrow a Triton from a buddy to fish Erie in 5 footers. At an earlier tourney in southern Ohio I know that Gambler was faster than my Triton on flat water but we passed him in like he was standing still in the rough water.
Way2slow reply :
Now folks, unless you've have driven or had a ride in an Allison, don't start assuming because they are extreamly fast, they are going to ride rough. The hull design of the Allison has such a deep V, even weighing less than 1,000 pounds, they ride and handle rough water extremely well.
I personnaly have never owned one (not saying I wouldn't love to have one) but have riden in a couple and I'm the type speed freak that would never be satisfied with the speed. I had a friends running 107 before he lost his job, needed money and the boat had to go.
5bass reply :
QuoteBring any Allison,Bullet or Gambler to Lake Erie and se how comfortable the fishing becomes. When I fished the ABA last year a gentleman with a 08 Gambler decided it would be better to borrow a Triton from a buddy to fish Erie in 5 footers. At an earlier tourney in southern Ohio I know that Gambler was faster than my Triton on flat water but we passed him in like he was standing still in the rough water.
Obviously the guy you are speaking of with the Gambler didnt know how to use his trim tabs. Proper use of the trim tabs in rough water makes the ride a lot better. They are to aid in hole-shot, rough water and cruising at slower speeds (the boat stays on plane). Plus, there's not many places in America that kick up like Erie so I wouldn't even consider the rough water there a factor when looking for a boat unless Erie was my home lake.
Catt reply :
I've met guys from northern states who fish the Great Lakes daily and they were all amazed at the size of the chop on the Bend, not rolling waves but chop.
Yes I've driven and ridden in Allison and Bullet so I can tell you from experience they are not necessarily a rough ride but you're gonna get wet.
There are 5 key elements that will cause you to get wet when running a boat in chop.
Hull design
Angle of attack (how you approach the wave)
Height of the chop
Wind velocity
Experience of the driver
Operator error is the most common cause
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