Loud splash noise when casting 2024
Traumabrew reply :
I went out again today to practice using my bait caster. After watching some vids of how to set it up, I did a lot better today. No backlashes, better distance, but I am having an issue I dont know if it really is an issue and if it is, how to correct it.
When I cast, my lure makes a very loud splash noise and a large ripple effect. I would suspect this would scare off the fish. I was using a Texas rig today using 3/8 oz weight and a #3 EWG with a 7" worm.
I did not catch anything today. I think I was using the wrong set up as I was noticing a lot of surface activity/feeding from the fish. I didnt switch up my lure as I went out around sunset to mainly get practice casting. But the loud/large splash effect has me concerned. Is this a problem with my casting technique?
FishDewd reply :
Well, as Catt said, and I think it's accurate, sometimes you want a splash. Other times you don't. It'll come down to the water conditions, the mood of the fish, etc... Doesn't mean you're doing it wrong necessarily. Don't assume the fact that you made a splash is the reason you aren't catching fish. In murky water I have found it's better so that it gives them some sort of direction to look at. Pressured water does tend to vary though... I've thrown topwater lures where it landed inches from a fish and I saw an explosion of water as the fish scurried away terrified. Sometimes they just nail it. It just depends. One thing I've learned is to raise my rod at the last moment before the lure hits the water, it does seem to slightly lessen the impact splash.
Anyway, I usually make a bit of splash too cause I just learned to cast a baitcaster almost overhand, and usually use a side-roll type of cast in most cases. I've been working on light pitches atm to stretch my arsenal. I'm spending a lot of time slinging lures into my yard cause I am hell bent on learning how to do it when the situation arises lol. Normally I bring 2-3 poles with me rigged a little differently to test what mood the fish are in. Once you find the one that works... stick to it.
Catt reply :
We assume all bass are the same doing the same thing at the same time.
They are individuals!
What scares one makes another curious!
Graham reply :
Prey doesn’t always make a perfect splash-less entry to the water!
if you want to give your bait a nice clean entry just be easier with it, swing your bait out rather than hucking it, keep it more parallel to the water, go easy with it, it’s all in the wrist. You’d be surprised how far you can cast a lure without absolutely bombing it. Play around and practice, you’ll learn a lot from messing around. Hope that helps.
kenmitch reply :
On 6/4/2018 at 5:32 PM, Catt said:We assume all bass are the same doing the same thing at the same time.
They are individuals!
What scares one makes another curious!
Yep....Just like humans they react in different ways.
Mr. Aquarium reply :
ive caught some large fish after a splash with a big swimbait. especially over near over hanging trees
kenmitch reply :
On 6/4/2018 at 10:28 PM, Mr. Aquarium said:ive caught some large fish after a splash with a big swimbait. especially over near over hanging trees
Yep....Just like us bass will have a natural reaction to disturbances in their world. Some will do the deer in headlights, some will run for it, while others will go to investigate it.
Angry John reply :
This is a bait type and individual fish thing to me. Chucking deep diver cranks who cares, pitching into shallow water it may make a huge difference. Pressured water or your personal little secret place. Tons of factors to consider.
bagofdonuts reply :
Are you casting it using an overhand motion, like throwing a baseball? if so, try more of a roll cast (like turning a door knob). This will have the lure landing at a much flatter angle and not as much splash. I'd also work on it backhanded.
EGbassing reply :
Are you casting overhand? If so, I would try more of a sidearm cast. That should help.
Catt reply :
It doesn't matter if you're casting, pitching, flipping, or punching.
During the 70s we "punched" matted grass by throwing a Stanley 3/4 oz jig (biggest you could find) straight up & before it reached it's apex slam your rod straight down "punching" the jig through the mat. Quite a violent technique that put tons of fish in the boat. Ya know what it still works today!
Am I saying commotion is the right choice?
No but neither is silent!
Just because ya made a little noise don't get excited, go ahead & work your lure.
Brad in Texas reply :
I don't use long casts, fishing most often from my Meyers Sportspal canoe or a kayak. I get close up and usually pitch to my spots.
But, I have a friend who fishes in the kayak tournaments here in Texas, a YouTuber publishing videos, too, and Tony Sebren can make casts with very small splashes using a casting reel. If I were to describe it, I'd say he casts flatter trajectories than most. As one poster here mentioned, flatter angles of descent make smaller splashes; and, another poster here mentioned you can still make long "enough" casts by backing off just a hair. Diminishing returns to distance, anyway, from those Tarzan swings. We all know that: air resistance against light lures makes it so.
Adding to the flatter trajectory, a shot putter or discus thrower's nightmare where energy that could have gone into a longer flight instead finds the implement smacking down for a short measured throw . . . but then skipping off farther rolling along the ground, wasted energy. Here if a lure is cast "flattish" and an experienced angler has a really good thumb (finger for spinning reel), if timed properly, at the point just after the first water contact where the lure would then want to skip forward like skipping a flat stone across water, the line is stopped, absorbs the horizontal "vector" energy still left . . . and the lure makes little commotion. Not only the thumb/finger, but one can pull up on the rod to negate the skipping forward.
Some do this much better than others. When you see an angler with this skill set, it is something to behold.
On long, long casts where you are trying to cover water, there, I'd likely just bomb it out, get the extra 7 or 8 yards, and know it might affect a fish if it hits him on the head, but odds are the extra 7 or 8 yards pays off.
Brad
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
Loud entry noise might spook the fish off but sometime they do call the fish in to investigate.
many time I got bite on whopper plopper 110 after making big splash and pause for a few seconds.
Your 3/8 oz bullet weight with 7" worm shouldn't make a lot of noise no matter how hard it land compare to other type lures, don't worry about it too much. Or you could try lighter weight 1/4, 1/8 and I think those are better for bank fishing.
Dr Octagon reply :
Just think of that "loud splash" as a dinner bell for the Bass ????
NHBull reply :
As you get better, you be be able to focus on the splash. For now learn to avoid back
ash and get accurate. As your accuracy improves, you thumb improves and the splash becomes more manageable. I for one, think I have better results when they hear it’s coming ????
Ratherbfishing reply :
Imagine my great disdain when my two year old nephew fell out of the boat and made a HUGE splash. I was relieved to see he didn't scare the bass at all.
lo n slo reply :
i dont know your particular situation but 3/8 is a little heavy for me
J Francho reply :
On 6/5/2018 at 2:14 AM, Catt said:During the 70s we "punched" matted grass by throwing a Stanley 3/4 oz jig (biggest you could find) straight up & before it reached it's apex slam your rod straight down "punching" the jig through the mat. Quite a violent technique that put tons of fish in the boat. Ya know what it still works today!
Sounds familiar. I came up with this out of necessity:
WRB reply :
Making a controlled cast where you decide how and where the lure lands is important.
Tom
Catt reply :
@J Francho so did we ????
Bass fishing in the 70s & early 80s was violent sport, at least for the bass anyway!
Rahlow reply :
I think Glenn has a video about this,,,,
WRB reply :
You must be stealthy quite is one approach. You must stir the up to activate them is another approach. Both work under circumstances that favor them.
Tom Mann of Mann baits wrote in his book "Think like a Bass" recommends stirring them up by running your big OB motor through weed beds to tear the mats up. Then go back and catch bass looking for critters displaced by the mat being ripped up.
Watching a Bassmaster Classic event that Jay Yelas won by catching a 6 lb bass out of a boat wake that buzzed by him a few feet away supports Mann's approach.
I have watched big bass leave a area when a boat drove by 200 yards away, they hear the noise and shut off or see them swim into deeper water...stealth and long casts is important to catch those bass at that time.
Bass located in marinas in the same lake could care less if boats are making noise, they seem to be conditioned to boat traffic.
Load splash lure entry, sometimes works, sometimes it does't and I don't know why so controlled lure entry is my go to presentation, when it's possible.
Tom
Rahlow reply :
Glenn’s video here, at about the 14 minute mark, I’d suggest watching it all though,,
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-videos/spinnerbaits-bass-fishing.html
Traumabrew reply :
I guess I have been brainwashed into the whole "Fish quietly" mindset that making any noise seems to be a bad thing to me. When thinking about a lot of techniques and lures, most of them have added features to make a noise or disturbance.
I think part of my problem was my weight. I thought I was using a 3/8 oz weight but it was a 1/2 oz weight. I retied it using a 1/4 oz and it made less of a splash.
I was watching Glen video on how to set up and use a bait caster and that video alone improved my casting. Still didn't catch anything. Now I need to learn "how to fish" meaning what bait/lures and techniques to use for given situation or circumstances.
J Francho reply :
On 6/5/2018 at 8:12 AM, Catt said:@J Francho so did we ????
Bass fishing in the 70s & early 80s was violent sport, at least for the bass anyway!
You’re old, lol. I think I figured this out in the late 80s as a teen. And it wasn’t with a jig. They had these streamlined, concave, conical Bullet weights, and we’d peg them with a toothpick and do the flip punch cast. They were 3/4 oz. and about an inch long! Anyway, it worked.
LxVE Bassin reply :
That 3/8 ounce weight is probably part of the problem. A 7 inch worm does not really need a 3/8 ounce weight unless you are punching or channeling your inner Ish. But if u are catching fish so be it. My lures don’t always have the smoothest entry into the water but I do alright.
Ksam1234 reply :
In the area that I fish the splash is usually a good thing. The water is very muddy usually and the splash held the fish know where my lure is, also I can’t even count how many times I casted and the lure made a splash and as soon as it made that impact the fish would bite it out of reaction. So I like a little splash
J Francho reply :
On 6/5/2018 at 10:46 AM, LxVE Bassin said:That 3/8 ounce weight is probably part of the problem. A 7 inch worm does not really need a 3/8 ounce weight unless you are punching or channeling your inner Ish.
I generally start at 3/8 oz. and move up. I rarely throw 1/4, though 1/8 can happen if I'm feeling like a more horizontal approach. It's not an Ish thing. Whether there is heavy weed cover or not, up here, it the speed of the drop. Something big goes whizzing down, and a fish has to do what fish has to do to get a quick meal. Think of it like a "reaction bait" - a term I hate - they have to react quick, if they want that meal.
Catt reply :
On 6/5/2018 at 8:41 PM, J Francho said:Think of it like a "reaction bait" - a term I hate
In my estimation of things all lures are reaction lures...bass see lure...bass reacts!
J Francho reply :
Exactly. I was just using the term in a way many could recognize. When I think about this kind of fishing, it's more of a brief opportunity bait. If they're somewhat active, they grab it now, it might be food, and I'll get it first.
Fairtax4me reply :
Some of the splash comes down to how much weight you're throwing, the rest comes from technique.
A 1/2oz weight is kind of a lot of weight. In the end that depends on what lure you're using, but for a 7" worm that's serious overkill. Makes it easier to learn to cast without a backlash, but you get a huge splash when it hits the water.
Not to mention, the action of that worm is all messed up with that much weight.
For a worm that small I'd use no more than a 1/4oz weight, but only if you're using it around certain vegetation and working it more like a flipping bait, or going for some kind of lightweight Carolina rig. Usually 1/8 or 3/16 is plenty.
Technique is the other part. That just takes practice to get right. Learning to control the entry of the lure into the water by controlling the spool with your thumb. You can toss a 3/4oz jig and have it hit the water with barely a ripple, or chuck a weightless senko and have it sound like a canon ball hit the water, just by altering your cast a bit, and controlling the line as the lure nears the water.
Traumabrew reply :
I went out fishing this morning on my way home from work (I picked a small pond along a busy road and you should have seen some of the looks on the peoples faces as they drove to work) and was paying attention to my casting. I seem to be casting with a high arcing cast that has a steep entry into the water. I am assuming this is causing some of my issues. I tried to release later but seemed to be getting shorter more acute angle casts that caused a splash. I just cant seem to find that sweet spot when to release.
One of the interesting things I noticed when fishing with my daughters (who are using 10 dollar WalMart Zebco combo specials) is that a slow retrieve with a Texas rig seems to work better. The reels they are using have a 2.1:1 retrieve vs my 6.3 or 7.1. They were catching them and I wasnt. I am going to try a really slow retrieve next time to see my results.
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