If you live in an area where nuisance fish are posted, and you catch one, what do you personally do?
Is there a right or wrong way to deal with this scenario?
I was taught "you kill it you eat it" ethic - if I can't do that I release them - even oscars are decent eating.
If i catch a "nuisance" fish. I just release them like I would a bass.
"Nuisance Fish" to me are the One's I Can't Catch ~
A-Jay
If its an invasive species that your state doesn't want. Then I would put it on a stringer keep it in the water to keep it alive then call the proper authorities. Tell them you caught an invasive species in your lake.
At some of the lakes around here, Zebra mussels and white perch are on the list. I just didn't know if I was doing the lake a disservice by releasing a white perch back into the lake, as opposed to just eating it or disposing it by some other means.
In SC white perch have overcome the white bass wherever they've been introduced and are fierce competitors with crappie. DNR says they weren't stocked. They have lifted the limit and ask people to take as many as they can and don't return them to the water even if you waste them.
They make good catfish bait. And they taste pretty good too. You tend to catch a bunch crappie fishing or bass fishing with cranks.
So a good rule of thumb is, catch a nuisance fish and figure out something to do with it other than releasing it back into the lake?
If it's a native fish, like a gar or a bowfin, I would just release it.
So far I've only seen White Perch listed on the sign at the boat ramp or listed on some of the signs at different lakes, so I would only be concerned with that specific species.
You follow the rules of the Necromongers:
"You keep what you kill"
What makes white perch a nuisance to me is that they flare those gills and can slice your hand if you're holding them like a bluegill. And they tend to get all three hooks of a treble inside their mouth. Then sometimes they'll get the other treble in their tail or side, making it very difficult to get unhooked. Personally, since they've eradicated the white bass, I like to catch a whole lot of them at once. It's better than not catching crappie where they used to be.
Chopped panfish makes a good garden fertilizer... turn it under.
oe
Define nuisance. I would consider pike and musky a nuisance. I'm not going to kill them although grilled pike is quite tasty. In IL, the dnr instructs us to kill invasive's and we are not to be in possession of any live invasive's.
I throw nuisance fish- pickerel, juvenile bass, etc- back...
Invasive nuisance fish- ie carp- should be destroyed. Boo-hoo.
There are designated invasive species disposal bins at all boat launches on some of the lakes I fish.
On 8/3/2015 at 3:33 AM, Neil McCauley said:I throw nuisance fish- pickerel, juvenile bass, etc- back...
Invasive nuisance fish- ie carp- should be destroyed. Boo-hoo.
There are designated invasive species disposal bins at all boat launches on some of the lakes I fish.
Do you know that bass are invasive in certain reservoirs?
I generally don't consider catching fish a nuisance. I enjoy catching, admiring, and releasing them. I don't understand why one would hold a species of a fish with reverence and another with disdain. I've been disappointed during tournaments to find my smallmouth is a sheephead, but that's not really the fish's fault. I try not to let others pretenses of fishing detract from the joys of mine.
It's illegal to release a caught invasive in KS. I like to dispose of silver carp by cutting them into the right size chunks, putting them on a hook, and trying to feed them to a big blue cat.
No such thing as a nuisance fish - they're all the same to me.
Nuisance fish? What nuisance fish? When I target bass I only catch bass.
All joking aside, where I am Bass are an invasive species and are considered a nuisance fish. I let 'em go just the same.
It's illegal I think in NY to return gobies back to water. You're supposed to keep them. Either cut it up for cat fish bait, or fertilizer.
I'll kill a snakehead and let the buzzards have at it.
Food . Cut bait for trot line
On 8/3/2015 at 2:10 PM, Bluebasser86 said:It's illegal to release a caught invasive in KS. I like to dispose of silver carp by cutting them into the right size chunks, putting them on a hook, and trying to feed them to a big blue cat.
Just so I understand correctly, you're saying that if I catch a white bass at El Dorado, which is posted on the sign at the dock as a nuisance species, it's illegal for me to release it back into the lake alive?
On 8/3/2015 at 8:23 PM, Fun4Me said:Just so I understand correctly, you're saying that if I catch a white bass at El Dorado, which is posted on the sign at the dock as a nuisance species, it's illegal for me to release it back into the lake alive?
White bass aren't an ANS fish, white perch are. From the KDWPT website regarding ANS fish species;
K.A.R. 115-18-10: Protect Kansas from nuisance species. You cannot import, possess, or release the listed live wildlife species without a permit.
On 8/3/2015 at 8:52 PM, Bluebasser86 said:White bass aren't an ANS fish, white perch are. From the KDWPT website regarding ANS fish species;
K.A.R. 115-18-10: Protect Kansas from nuisance species. You cannot import, possess, or release the listed live wildlife species without a permit.
I mistyped, I had bass on my mind LOL!!. I indeed meant white perch.
So, If I'm fishing for any species at El Dorado, or any place where white perch is posted, and catch one, I have to do something other than release it back into the water alive? Can I just knife it and throw it back in?
I'm heading to El Dorado this weekend, I'll talk to someone and post whatever I find out.
On 8/3/2015 at 6:50 AM, slonezp said:Do you know that bass are invasive in certain reservoirs?
"Invaisive" is a somewhat meaningless term in regards to man-made bodies of water.
On 8/2/2015 at 9:55 PM, A-Jay said:"Nuisance Fish" to me are the One's I Can't Catch ~
A-Jay
Exactly ... LOL. This is what I was going to say.
On 8/3/2015 at 9:09 PM, Fun4Me said:I mistyped, I had bass on my mind LOL!!. I indeed meant white perch.
So, If I'm fishing for any species at El Dorado, or any place where white perch is posted, and catch one, I have to do something other than release it back into the water alive? Can I just knife it and throw it back in?
I'm heading to El Dorado this weekend, I'll talk to someone and post whatever I find out.
If you cut the heads off and make sure to deflate the swim bladder and toss it back the blues and channels in the lake will handle the rest.
On 8/3/2015 at 12:55 AM, Fun4Me said:At some of the lakes around here, Zebra mussels and white perch are on the list. I just didn't know if I was doing the lake a disservice by releasing a white perch back into the lake, as opposed to just eating it or disposing it by some other means.
AFAIK, it's illegal to release white perch in any lake in Kansas. You can't even have them alive in your posession or use them as bait.
They are pretty good eatin' though.
Tom
On 8/3/2015 at 10:24 PM, tholmes said:AFAIK, it's illegal to release white perch in any lake in Kansas. You can't even have them alive in your posession or use them as bait.
They are pretty good eatin' though.
Tom
I thought one could use them as bait as long as they're not alive? Meaning I could catch one, cut it up and go catfishing.
I guess I was just wondering about the letter of the law as it's written. If it's technically illegal to posses a live one, then I would think the man could just hover around an angler until he/she caught one either intentionally or by mistake, and ticket them for possessing a live white perch. I can't imagine they would do that however. The way I read it on the KDWPT website makes me think that they're talking about taking live fish away from the lake to release them somewhere else, thus needing a permit to do so.
I'm under the impression, and I will verify it before I do it, that I can catch a white perch and throw it back into the lake alive and be fine, or I can catch a white perch cut it up and throw it back and be fine also, if I decide not to eat it.
Some moron released Rio Grande cichlids into a local bayou here. It outcompetes native species for habitat and bedding areas. When they move in, wildlife officials tend to see a decline in the reproductive success of native species like the sunfish.
So when I catch them, I give as many as I can to a biologist at the University of New Orleans who's working to find a way to eradicate them. And if I can't get them to him, they become fertilizer.
But I don't toss them at cars speeding down my street, no matter what anyone says.
On 8/4/2015 at 12:36 AM, Fun4Me said:I thought one could use them as bait as long as they're not alive? Meaning I could catch one, cut it up and go catfishing.
I guess I was just wondering about the letter of the law as it's written. If it's technically illegal to posses a live one, then I would think the man could just hover around an angler until he/she caught one either intentionally or by mistake, and ticket them for possessing a live white perch. I can't imagine they would do that however. The way I read it on the KDWPT website makes me think that they're talking about taking live fish away from the lake to release them somewhere else, thus needing a permit to do so.
I'm under the impression, and I will verify it before I do it, that I can catch a white perch and throw it back into the lake alive and be fine, or I can catch a white perch cut it up and throw it back and be fine also, if I decide not to eat it.
Post #25 on here that I copy and pasted straight from Kansas Department of Wildlife and Parks website;
From the KDWPT website regarding ANS fish species;
K.A.R. 115-18-10: Protect Kansas from nuisance species. You cannot import, possess, or release the listed live wildlife species without a permit.
Cut and dry straight from the states website. You can not legally catch and release an ANS species in the state of Kansas. You can always email the state on their website for further clarification. All the GWs I've spoken to on the issue were very cut and dry about it that it's against the law to release them.
As far as them writing tickets for someone catching one, you don't "possess" a fish just by catching it. A fish is in your possession once it's in a bucket, livewell, cooler, or on a stringer. If they see you catch one and toss it alive into your livewell they very may well write you a ticket.
I'm curious to see what criteria has to be met for a fish to be considered a nuisance species. I live in New York so I don't have those jumping carp which are probably a danger more than a nuisance, but here they stock chinook salmon, coho salmon, brown trout, and the ubiquitous rainbow trout. Which apparently don't compete with native species in any way.
Bluebasser:
I did indeed see the copy/paste from post #25, and I'm not trying to say that your wrong, I just want to make sure I do the right thing when it comes to legality. I've never fished anywhere that I had to kill a fish I caught, or risk a ticket. It's just new to me that's all.
If you kill a fish and leave it out, some scavenger is going to have an easy meal. That's the way I look at it.