what is the best color for this bait ?
Well, if there were only one "best color", then they'd sell only one color, right?
The two most popular colors have been Watermelon Red and Green Pumpkin.....These two are normally used in clearer waters but I have found them useful in cloudy or stained conditions too.
June Bug and Black'n'Blue is great for low light and stained water and Okeechobee Craw color works well on in many lakes that I fish here in Texas regardless of conditions.
Bama Bug is another color that works well in most situations as well.
Each of these are very popular colors for soft plastics so I would say pick one of the colors that best fit your understanding of your own area waters and giv'er a go
Hope that helps
Big O
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Like Big-O said, just choose a color that you have confidence in and know will work in your area. Just consider what colors you have caught fish on before.
Quotewhat is the best color for this bait ?
Don't get all caught up in the color thing. Specific color may be one of the least important things when it comes to your plastics. Generalizing color (ie. Bright Colors, and Dark/Natural Colors) is more useful. Darks/Natural colors are almost always better. Watermelon Seed, Pumpkin Seed, Junebug, Black, Red Shad, and any variant of all of these works best most of the time. For hard baits color is a little more complicated.
Far and away the best color is pearl. (Cause you can take a Pantone marker and make it any color you want.)
Actually, the above works, and I do it a lot. Other than that, there is no ONE color that's the best. Everyone else said it already.
QuoteFar and away the best color is pearl. (Cause you can take a Pantone marker and make it any color you want.)Actually, the above works, and I do it a lot. Other than that, there is no ONE color that's the best. Everyone else said it already.
don't listen to this remedial advice.
QuoteQuoteFar and away the best color is pearl. (Cause you can take a Pantone marker and make it any color you want.)Actually, the above works, and I do it a lot. Other than that, there is no ONE color that's the best. Everyone else said it already.
don't listen to this remedial advice.
Ya know, this is bugging me. I learned that trick from one of the most respected pro's in the business, too.
I guess that's remedial advice, too? I mean..calling a pro stupid is the same as calling me stupid, right?
While it may not apply specifically to Smokin Roster, it does apply to several other baits; in earnest.
I would get 2 colors. Being from Ky., green pumpkin and black w/ blue flake should have you covered.
QuoteQuoteQuoteFar and away the best color is pearl. (Cause you can take a Pantone marker and make it any color you want.)Actually, the above works, and I do it a lot. Other than that, there is no ONE color that's the best. Everyone else said it already.
don't listen to this remedial advice.
Ya know, this is bugging me. I learned that trick from one of the most respected pro's in the business, too.
I guess that's remedial advice, too? I mean..calling a pro stupid is the same as calling me stupid, right?
While it may not apply specifically to Smokin Roster, it does apply to several other baits; in earnest.
Being a soft plastic designer for 25 yrs I can see both sides of this discussion. Of course I have used markers many times when I am trying to design one particular color scheme for reference or spotting eyes on individual baits and coloring your own baits is both fun and effective sometime. Pearl is also a good place to start and other light colors will also work well if one wants to do so.
A few downsides might be creating a color that glitter effect might be more effective, the time to color them individually, added colors unless extremely dark or heavy will sometime fade out easily and coloring will cause a loss to any translucence in the bait itself. Upside is adding subtle changes that might make a difference.
Many anglers are using dippin' dye for tails or q tips to add highlights in other ares on a bait etc. and these seem to hold color a bit longer than markers as well.
As with all fishing preferences....it's all up to the fisherman and what he has the most confidence and fun with
Never saw a bait design or color that wouldn't catch fish at some time or another....just gotta find the right fish to show it too ;D
Big O
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QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteFar and away the best color is pearl. (Cause you can take a Pantone marker and make it any color you want.)Actually, the above works, and I do it a lot. Other than that, there is no ONE color that's the best. Everyone else said it already.
don't listen to this remedial advice.
Ya know, this is bugging me. I learned that trick from one of the most respected pro's in the business, too.
I guess that's remedial advice, too? I mean..calling a pro stupid is the same as calling me stupid, right?
While it may not apply specifically to Smokin Roster, it does apply to several other baits; in earnest.
Never saw a bait design or color that wouldn't catch fish at some time or another....just gotta find the right fish to show it too ;D
Big O
www.ragetail.com
This is why bubblegum is still on the market I'm guessing?
My favorite, for all soft plastics, is "Dark".
;D ;D ;D
love the rooster, have caught the same on any color.
today i was fishing a tanic stained resevoir. and black and blue worked for me.
QuoteQuoteFar and away the best color is pearl. (Cause you can take a Pantone marker and make it any color you want.)Actually, the above works, and I do it a lot. Other than that, there is no ONE color that's the best. Everyone else said it already.
don't listen to this remedial advice.
Yet another post where someone seems to "know" too much to allow alternative suggestions to be seriously considered. LC, eat all of us if that's how you're gonna be. If you think it's a bad idea how about considering explaining your thought rather than trying to make Hooligan look like an idiot.
QuoteQuoteQuoteFar and away the best color is pearl. (Cause you can take a Pantone marker and make it any color you want.)Actually, the above works, and I do it a lot. Other than that, there is no ONE color that's the best. Everyone else said it already.
don't listen to this remedial advice.
Yet another post where someone seems to "know" too much to allow alternative suggestions to be seriously considered. LC, eat all of us if that's how you're gonna be. If you think it's a bad idea how about considering explaining your thought rather than trying to make Hooligan look like an idiot.
I am with you on this one! First off LC is WRONG ! I have been fishing for over 40 years now and colors can be the differance between getting a fish to hit or not. I have been on the water too many times when the bass would stop hitting a color only to start to hit another color! And LC no need to bash someone we are all here to get better and learn some more and better ways to fish. If this works for Hooligan then that is cool !
Okeechobee Craw is a good color that seems to be effective in many waters as well. The Blue Flake belly has enough flash to get attention even in off color waters.
Big O
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This thread is exactly why Big-O is able to drive that nice truck. ;D
Colors catch fisherman, not fish. Give me any soft bait in straight black and I bet I could catch fish anywhere and so could anyone else.
QuoteColors catch fisherman, not fish. Give me any soft bait in straight black and I bet I could catch fish anywhere and so could anyone else.
Black is a good color for Soft Plastics and works extremely well in some situations.....but in time, I bet you will find that there are many colors that will out fish Black, in many waters across the country and in many different situations.
It is being proven more and more everyday that fish have preferences just like every other living organism on the planet and in the Bass fishing world....Color matters for improving "Cast to Catch" ratios.
And as for Trucks...I've driven'em my entire life and retired at 34, long prior to designing the Rage Tail Line for Strike King, so vehicles aren't really in the Rage Tail equation....I do like Black Trucks though along with several other colors ;D
Big O
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At last year's Roadtrip Big O talked with the guys about many things, but what I remember most was
a particular conversation about color. The point he made is that having exactly the "right" color can
make good fishing better. For most of us, color selection may be a low priority, but when ounces count,
color counts!
8-)
black is a great color. i believe it is easy to see in most any water clarity.
in my personal experience i've found that color can make a difference. usually changing bait size, weight or presentation is more effective, however.
there have been multiple occasions where a friend and i were using same bait with different colors and one was more productive. switching to the color producing was all it took. i've proved to myself several times that color can make a difference.
QuoteFar and away the best color is pearl. (Cause you can take a Pantone marker and make it any color you want.)
good tip, Hooligan. thanks.
There are times when color makes absolutely no difference at all and there are times when color makes all the difference in the world.
Sometimes color is a confidence thing, sometimes it's bass thing and sometimes color is lure specific.
QuoteQuoteColors catch fisherman, not fish. Give me any soft bait in straight black and I bet I could catch fish anywhere and so could anyone else.
Black is a good color for Soft Plastics and works extremely well in some situations.....but in time, I bet you will find that there are many colors that will out fish Black, in many waters across the country and in many different situations.
I agree they have color preference but when you are fishing for reaction strikes and 95% of the time that is why fish hit strike it is out of reaction how much does color really matter? Catt hit the nail on the head when he said color is lure specific. If I'm going to buy some Smokin' Roosters the would be some form of white and I would fish them where I would fish a frog because I want them to look like a fish, frog, or snakes belly. If I was going to buy rage graws they would be a brown or pumpkin.
We must fish differently. Reaction strikes don't
approach 95 % or even a majority of the time.
When fishing jigs and bottom contact soft
plastics, the vast majority of hits are feeding
bites.
8-)
QuoteWe must fish differently. Reaction strikes don'tapproach 95 % or even a majority of the time.
When fishing jigs and bottom contact soft
plastics, the vast majority of hits are feeding
bites.
8-)
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I just got a pack of these in Bama Bug, do y'all just pitch these on a T-Rig and fish like any other creature bait. THese things are dead sexy
QuoteWe must fish differently. Reaction strikes don'tapproach 95 % or even a majority of the time.
When fishing jigs and bottom contact soft
plastics, the vast majority of hits are feeding
bites.
8-)
Then why do almost all strikes on a jig occur on the fall? I know you yourself have even said this.
I just cannot see how there is anyway that a bait falling is a feeding strike. If anything it is a combination of the two. It's just like walking past a fat kid with a plate of free cheeseburgers, imo. Doesn't matter if they are hungry or not, they are going to eat it.
If you are working the bait after the fall and a fish strikes, that is predominantly a feeding strike, imo.
QuoteI just got a pack of these in Bama Bug, do y'all just pitch these on a T-Rig and fish like any other creature bait. THese things are dead sexy
T rig, C rig, flippin w/Bobber Stop ahead of weight, Swim Jig without skirt or Swim it on weighted hook are the main ways I fish it.....
Weighted hook is the real fun over grass and fish it like a slow fished T rig and let it settle on top of the grass....or down in a Bass' Mouth
Big O
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Big O,
How do they skip on a weighted hook? I;m thinking about skipping under trees and such then burning them back.
QuoteThen why do almost all strikes on a jig occur
on the fall? I know you yourself have even said this.
I might have said "most fisherman get bit on
the fall" which I think is usually the case when
flipping. However, I rarely flip and nearly every
fish I have ever caught on a jig has come as a
result of lying still on the bottom or being moved
after sitting.
-Kent
Color is too complicated to worry me much past green, brown, or black.
Just think how long it will take to dial in the correct color and then what if there is another shade that would produce even better? Are you going to stop fishing what is working to gamble on what may or may not work 1% more?
Will green pumpkin with red flakes be better than black flakes or purple or a mix, what if instead of green pumpkin they prefer watermellon with orange flakes?
Too many combinations to be able to ever know that you're using the perfect color, by the time you've tried them all the day is done or weather pattern changed or more fish moved in or a thousand other variables.
Color matters, but you will typically just luck into using the exact right color so I wouldn't sweat it too much.
QuoteBig O,How do they skip on a weighted hook? I;m thinking about skipping under trees and such then burning them back.
Skipping with weighted hooks is OK if the hook weight is extremely close to the body of the bait but the weight hanging too far below can sometimes present a problem for skipping.
Kent is right on, with his comment earlier and IMO "Why many strikes occur on the fall" is 1) Splash down possibly mimics another bass feeding on prey and draws attention from a nearby fish which responds by striking bait falling in front of them.
2) We often cast, pitch etc. to obvious fish holding structure so the bait is in an opportunistic strike zone when falling...
3) We as fishermen are often in a hurry to catch as many fish as possible so we pitch, flip and cast to every likely spot we find expecting that if the fish is going to hit, they will hit right there. If we don't get struck immediately, we retrieve too quickly to actually find out if there is a fish between us and the obvious structure.
We all hope that we can locate the fish and they are in active feed patterns when we're there but if they're not, we have to search for the right combinations to flip their switch. Often when dragging C rigs, Big Worms or Football jigs over Points, ledges, rock piles etc. we find that it's the small vibrations and sounds that are being made by a bait that causes the fish to investigate. When they find or see the bait, if there is no feeding competition going on, color becomes much more enticing.
Big O
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