I’ve always like cinnamon brown colored Senkos. They've almost always caught fish for us here in central Minnesota. Cinnamon brown looks just like a worm which is something bass eat. What bass doesn’t love worms!!!
Cinnamon brown is also easier to see underwater so when fish are shallow you can watch them take the bait and see the hook which is harder to do with darker colors.
I have done unscientific studies where I fished a cinnamon brown Senko and my friend fished a black or green pumpkin one and the results were always the same with both of us catching fish, so I’m not sure how much color even really plays into it besides satisfying the angler. I have had the same type of results with 2 fisherman fishing exact opposite homemade Teckel Sprinker Frogs, one being white and one being black and both catching fish.
Have some fisherman used cinnamon brown and had poor results wherein they then switched to a different color Senko started catching fish or fisherman who’ve just never had any luck with the cinnamon brown color?
So why isn’t the Cinnamon Brown colored Senko more popular?
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On 6/28/2018 at 12:57 AM, tcbass said:
So why isn’t the Cinnamon Brown colored Senko more popular?
Because I'm a firm believer in our lord and savior - Green Pumpkin
I've never had to try cinnamon. When I throw a Senko its either Watermelon red or junebug, bass down here seem to like those colors. My brother loves to throw bubble gum Senkos, I think its looks ridiculous, but he catches fish so I can't complain.
On 6/28/2018 at 1:16 AM, Troy1985s said:I've never had to try cinnamon. When I throw a Senko its either Watermelon red or junebug, bass down here seem to like those colors. My brother loves to throw bubble gum Senkos, I think its looks ridiculous, but he catches fish so I can't complain.
A friend of mine was telling me how the pure white Senko works on a certain lake and always catches big fish. We happened to be on that lake and he caught a 3-1/2lber that day. He said it doesn't work on other lakes though and that he's tried. Weird.
On 6/28/2018 at 12:57 AM, tcbass said:..... Cinnamon brown looks just like a worm which is something bass eat. What bass doesn’t love worms!!!
Where would bass get worms? (Except from fishermen). Earthworms are not found in lakes.
On 6/28/2018 at 1:45 AM, Scott F said:Where would bass get worms? (Except from fishermen). Earthworms are not found in lakes.
I'd assume they get dropped into lakes by birds, crawl into lakes when it rains, etc.....
On 6/28/2018 at 1:45 AM, Scott F said:Where would bass get worms? (Except from fishermen). Earthworms are not found in lakes.
They are found in lakes Everytime it rains
On 6/28/2018 at 1:21 AM, tcbass said:
A friend of mine was telling me how the pure white Senko works on a certain lake and always catches big fish. We happened to be on that lake and he caught a 3-1/2lber that day. He said it doesn't work on other lakes though and that he's tried. Weird.
I have the same experience with white. I fish tidal marshes on both the East and West side of the Mississippi river. On the east side I have much more success using white(jigs or swim baits) than I do on the West side, so much so that I don't even throw white when fishing my spots on the west side. Unless its a Shad colored crank bait, those work on both sides of the river.
On 6/28/2018 at 12:57 AM, tcbass said:So why isn’t the Cinnamon Brown colored Senko more popular?
Because it doesn't fit into any color chart!
Just like Cinnamon Pepper Neon Junebug Laminate doesn't fit.
It is just like oxblood, a dead ringer for an earthworm but not very sexy. As for earthworms not being in lakes, well TnRiver46 nailed it, when it rains worms come to the surface and a lot of them close to the bank end up in the water.
My bass prefer the elusive “red shad” earthworms ????
Most largemouth bass have learned that if they try to gulp a spoonful of cinnamon, it will dry up in their mouth & they won't be able to swallow it. Cinnamon brown Senko's bring back those painful memories...
Cinnamon senkos don't work, you should send them to me to be disposed of properly, especially if they're cinnamon/purple flake.
You would think that I had them in my arsenal for a long time beings as I have been with Yamamoto for 20 years but it took me getting my butt handed to me on the Potomac one trip before I added them. There's just too many to choose from and so many work. I have that color in bulk now.
I think you could let 30 preschoolers paint Senkos random colors and they'd all catch fish.
But even though I know this, I'll probably take a closer look at Cinnamon Brown. ????
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On 6/28/2018 at 1:49 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Cinnamon senkos don't work, you should send them to me to be disposed of properly, especially if they're cinnamon/purple flake.
Cinnamon with the purple flake have produced very well for me, also.
Yep, bested by sprayed grass which has been killer in Jersey
I use that color a lot in the Upper Potomac when the water is clear. Same with Zoom's scuppernong color as they don't see it very often.
Allen
On 6/28/2018 at 1:05 AM, fishballer06 said:Because I'm a firm believer in our lord and savior - Green Pumpkin
Amen !
The replies are truthful and some are funny but the fact is that you have to "match the forage" in the body of water you are fishing,.
For example, a white colored bait to mimic shad colored prey works great in the Potomac River.
So your cinnamon colored bait has to resemble a color the bass are familiar with and equate to something to eat, like a crawfish or an earthworm.
For a listing of some of the colors you can consider for plastics check out this link and you can note all of the colors offered which will put you in a mental institution. But the Bait Monkey will love you!
Good luck and keep chucking that cinnamon Senko.
http://virginiaguidebaitco.com/
On 6/30/2018 at 3:17 AM, Sam said:the fact is that you have to "match the forage" in the body of water you are fishing,.
You have to? Come on now, you know that is not always the case.
On 6/30/2018 at 12:56 PM, Arcs&sparks said:You have to? Come on now, you know that is not always the case.
We must have a lot of bright blue baitfish swimming around right now because this have been the hot color in my homemade bladed jigs the last few weeks. Same color in jigs and plastics too.
GYCB #221 cinnamon with black and purple flake is a color I have recommended several times on this site.
Tom
On 6/30/2018 at 12:56 PM, Arcs&sparks said:You have to? Come on now, you know that is not always the case.
Right, but the writer was seeking advice on how to improve his bite ratio and the use of the specific color and asked how come the bass like his cinnamon Senko and do not hit other colored Senkos thrown by his buddy.
So in defense of my statement, I offer the following as stated in Keith’s Jones’ book, Knowing Bass. Take it or leave it. But at least read the data and come to your own conclusions.
Water is much denser than air and thus it scatters much more of the light traveling through it. A much smaller portion of the light the bass see reaches them in a direct line. This means the bass are presented with a weakened image of what they see.
The bass must see through a haze and this limits their distance and image they can see.
Dr. Don McCoy of the University of Kentucky conducted studies on bass’ vision and he proved that bass can see colors between red and blue, but not equally across the board. The fish quickly learned the colors between red and green of the spectrum but struggled to differentiate shades of blue. So the bass can see well from red to green but weak in the blue and violets.
The highest color discrimination is around yellow-green and yellow-orange.
To continue, Frank Brown at the University of Illinois noted that bass have good color vision in the areas of red and green. Intense yellows could be noted but pale yellow and pinks appeared to be interpreted as light and the bass often confused dark shades of blue and purple with heavy shades of gray and black
Since objects underwater appear brighter or darker in contrast to their surroundings, differences in brightness degrade as you go lower into the water column. So the beautiful Bluebasser blue jig is no longer a beautiful blue when it hits bottom, depending on the depth, water clarity, and light conditions.
Add to this the fact that motion signals life to a bass and the possibility of food. If an object is motionless it can be classified as non-living and ignored. And the bass get accustomed to specific moving objects that they can catch and eat even though their vision in the water is blurred. Motion grabs the bass’ attention and almost everything else is ignored.
And we know bass are sight hunters, always looking for something to eat or attack.
This means bass evaluate lure shapes according to how well they fit visual criteria without considering whether the shape is natural or not. But bass do get accustomed to certain shapes that are considered food and that is why our baits take the shape (or close to the shape) of what the bass can see as a moving target.
In Dr. Jones’ book he lists the strike response to color that he found in his studies for Berkley (Pure Fishing today) from high to low and here is what the published:
Silver/Black Back
Dark Violet
Black
Green
White
Yellow
Light Blue
Orange
Red
Don’t see cinnamon on the list. But where TCBass fishes the bass like this color. No idea why but they do and it works. So you throw what you know works and you have confidence. Wish I could find the secret color on the waters I fish so I don’t have to bring 500 pounds of plastics on the boat with me. But I digress.
Color is a major factor where bass are known to feed heavily on a preferred prey such as threadfin shad or crawfish. So we must match the prey color as closely as possible to what they eat.
And remember, in very muddy waters, reds, oranges, and yellows are about the only colors of light available and it is pointless to fret over the exact shade of a blue lure when all the blue light is gone.
Now, with all this input I still use blue and white on the Potomac, firetiger and green pumpkin on the Historic James River, blue on the Chickahominy River, 194 and 297 Senkos all over the place, Junebug all over the place and white and some other colors I have confidence.
So using cinnamon is a great color if you have confidence in it. But if you use it and don’t get any bites then you are using a wrong color for the forage and water/light conditions.
Up there in Minnesota the bass like cinnamon. Down here in Virginia you will not find a lot of guys throwing anything cinnamon on a regular basis, if at all.
So no one is right and no one is wrong. The beautiful blue jig Bluebasser throws would be dynamite on the Potomac or Chickahominy Rivers due to the influx of crabs and the amount of bluegills the bass are used seeing as blue colored targets. But throw that beautiful blue jig on Lake Anna or Lake Chesdin in Virginia and you could be wasting your time.
Keep chucking that cinnamon Senko and let us know when you catch your personal best!!!!
Good luck and tight lines.
I am big fan of Zoom's moccasin blue color myself.
On 6/30/2018 at 8:04 PM, flyfisher said:I am big fan of Zoom's moccasin blue color myself.
Fly...keep it a secret.
Moccasin Blue is a killer on the Chickahominy River in Virginia. I have loads of the finesse, curly tails, dead ringers, and trick worms.
The blue in them must mimic the bluegills and crabs that are in the river. The bass, crappie and crabs on the bottom love them.
I had a friend who is now deceased who would throw only one color on the Chick: Moccasin Blue. He was a guide and an old pro and he said you can throw any color you want on the Chick just as long as it is Moccasin Blue.
I am with you 100% on this one.
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Use a color they can see in the water conditions you are fishin and they will eat it.
On 6/30/2018 at 3:17 AM, Sam said:The replies are truthful and some are funny but the fact is that you have to "match the forage" in the body of water you are fishing,.
For example, a white colored bait to mimic shad colored prey works great in the Potomac River.
So your cinnamon colored bait has to resemble a color the bass are familiar with and equate to something to eat, like a crawfish or an earthworm.
For a listing of some of the colors you can consider for plastics check out this link and you can note all of the colors offered which will put you in a mental institution. But the Bait Monkey will love you!
Good luck and keep chucking that cinnamon Senko.
http://virginiaguidebaitco.com/
Thanks for posting this link. I have been looking for black swamp crawlers for a long time.
Allen
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