I have been layed up recovering from surgery and have been watching man youtube videos some of the best are the Japanes guys fishing from shore with wacky rigged baits. They catch soem nice fish. Anyone use "O" rings on softbaits?
I have been using the "O" ring on wackys for a few years. Yes they really work. You can buy an "O" ring tool from Cabelas for about $5.00. Much easier to put them on with the tool and the ring will save a lot of tearing.
yea i use the wacky tool and go to home depot or lowes to pick up some o rings. use them all time saves your baits for awhile
Yep, they're great. Look BillM wacky rig tool. Bill's a friend of mine.
if youre fishing senkos without the wacky tool, you have more money than brains.
No. I use shrink tubing which works great.
I set up my Senkos before heading out and so far I have caught 10 largemouths on one Senko using the shrink tubing.
I throw 4" and 5" senkos weightless wacky. I use rubber o-rings to maximize the longevity of each senko. I've used a variety of hook brands and sizes. I've currently settled on the Owner Weedless Wacky hooks in 1/0 size. Pretty happy with the setup, but I've honestly been throwing the drop shot more lately.
And instead of the wacky tool, you just need the bottom half of one of these pens.
On 3/30/2014 at 2:54 AM, michang5 said:I throw 4" and 5" senkos weightless wacky. I use rubber o-rings to maximize the longevity of each senko. I've used a variety of hook brands and sizes. I've currently settled on the Owner Weedless Wacky hooks in 1/0 size. Pretty happy with the setup, but I've honestly been throwing the drop shot more lately.
And instead of the wacky tool, you just need the bottom half of one of these pens.
Those work great but really any bottom half of a ball point pen will work also.
The advantage of the tool is that it holds spare rings.
Mike
I just remembered something that I saw months ago.
Insert a screw into the hole where the pen point sticks out. Instant rings holder.
Dunno why it had been buried in my brain until just now.
On 3/30/2014 at 3:21 AM, Mike L said:Those work great but really any bottom half of a ball point pen will work also.
The advantage of the tool is that it holds spare rings.
Mike
On 3/30/2014 at 3:25 AM, michang5 said:I just remembered something that I saw months ago.
Insert a screw into the hole where the pen point sticks out. Instant rings holder.
Dunno why it had been buried in my brain until just now.
Yep, good idea
Mike
Boom!
Another good tool is the gray barrel from a sharpie, not as messy as you would think. Some good videos can be found at youtube, searching by "bait finesse"
X2 on the shrink wrap. I can fish 1 Senko all day.
Has anyone tried the senko types that have an O ring molded in the middle of the senko? Cabelas andone other dealer sell them.
I'm probably splitting hairs, but I like an O-ring better than Shrink Wrap
because an O-ring is so slender that there's virtually no dead-spot.
Roger
My lowes is crazy high on orings... Where else do y'all find them for a decent price
I use GYCB Senkos, and DO NOT use the o-rings....................some one has to make sure the cattle on Gary's ranch are well fed.
I like the wacky saddle kit. Using one oring puts the hook parallel with the worm, where the wacky saddle puts the hook perpendicular to the worm.
I was loosing a lot of fish with one oring and I didn't like using two and crossing them. The kit was the answer I was looking for.
When I was guiding my clients used hundreds of stik-o's each season - even with inexpensive stik-o's it was still a good money saver to use o-rings - never saw the need for a tool.
On 3/30/2014 at 11:47 PM, frogflogger said:When I was guiding my clients used hundreds of stik-o's each season - even with inexpensive stik-o's it was still a good money saver to use o-rings - never saw the need for a tool.
I never have seen the need for the tool either--i just use my needle nose pliers that i keep handy to help get hooks out of the bass's mouth and slightly spread the o ring and pull the senko through 1/2 way and that's it
I use hair rubber bands. Cheap for a big pack and doesn't require anything special to put them on
Like BMG above said, I like the hook at 90 degrees to the bait, not parallel. Been using two and crossing them for years with no issues. No tool needed. Just wet the pointed end of the bait and slide it on. Can't see why you would need a tool but that's an individual choice.
Please explain quote above. I used my brain to get a simple round elastic ring on a soft round bait without having to spend an extra cent. If you need a tool that's fine. Insulting people that don't accomplishes little.On 3/30/2014 at 2:41 AM, jhoffman said:if youre fishing senkos without the wacky tool, you have more money than brains.
Big Money Grip- Did you get that name from an episode of Sanford and Son? Was one of my favorite all time shows.
I get mine from an industrial supply house like McMaster Carr or Grainger for next to nothing.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#o-rings/=rbnna0
Depending on bait you will need 5/16", 3/8", or 9mm
Yep, Sanford & Son.
On 3/30/2014 at 8:16 AM, tatertester said:Has anyone tried the senko types that have an O ring molded in the middle of the senko? Cabelas andone other dealer sell them.
If the o-ring is molded into the plastic, the plastic would actually be thinner there and tear easier.
I have not tried those specific baits but have experimented with Sticks I poured myself like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYK18yQVFsQ
I don't know why using or not using a tool or pen or whatever would create so much contention. At most, the tool costs less than $10. If that seems too much, then don't get it. It makes it very easy and fast, and if you use authentic senkos, you won't tear them getting the ring on.
Btw, I use two crossed rings. On tournament day, I just spear the bait. I don't really want to spend any extra time getting a bait rigged.
I get the black 250 pack of small hair bands from Wal-Mart for $0.99. You have to double them over to fit the bait which is perfect. It creates an "X" if you will to nestle my hook through and I avoid the parallel hook that I'm not a fan of. Might just be a confidence thing but I never liked the parallel hook.
http://www.oringsandmore.com/nsf-b70-orings-size-010-price-for-100-pcs/
A couple years ago I bought 600 there and with the shipping it was still less than $15
I was concerned at first about the hook being parallel to the bait. After a few good fish that concern goes away.
I have several wacky tools stashed around the boat now, and if that is what the flavor of the day is, I keep it right in my pocket. "Is that a wacky tool in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?" lol
http://www.***.com/Wacky_Rigging_Tool/descpage-WACKRIG.html
I use the wacky rigging tool from TW.
Rings are real cheap. The screw can be adjusted so when you put the worm in and slide the ring off it goes on at the right spot. You can also store rings on the screw to be available to slide on. I've used this for several years and I know the rings prolong the life of worms, especially GY senkos. Don't think I've lost a fish due tot the rings.
I've used clear plastic-y and black rubber bands. The clear ones melt from the salt in the senko. The black ones work better, but they become loose over time. I've cast out only to launch the senko while the band is still on the hook.
I've not found any difference between hooking perpendicular versus parallel. A few months ago I was losing fish on the wacky switching from the bank to a kayak. I've practiced my hookset technique (feel tap, count to 2 while reeling down slack, and side sweep) and that has made the biggest difference. Caught three in a canoe today with textbook hook placement each time. YMMV.
The link to o-rings in my previous post and the reply above was a game changer for me. No more paying 30-50 cents each at Lowes.
http://www.theoringstore.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=367_23_22&zenid=1b088fef44d57bb5655c30a8d1856309
#10 is the standard 1/4" ID most use but I use #9 for a tighter fit.
I've probably posted this before, but the correct size on o- rings is 3/8" OD (outside diameter), 1/4" ID (inside diameter). When I bought o -rings from orings.com (and as I recall it took several starts & stops, several phone calls before I found someone who would sell me a minimum order) they were around a penny a piece. The secretary apologized, saying if I bought more she could get me a more reasonable price. Anyway, ten bucks will get you a lifetime supply of o-rings.
I've got one of those o-ring tools, but it is seldom within reach when I need it so I find that a little slobber or a squirt of aerosol fish scent helps it slide on better. It has been years since I tore a senko putting on a o-ring.
On 3/31/2014 at 8:04 AM, herruberraschen said:I get the black 250 pack of small hair bands from Wal-Mart for $0.99. You have to double them over to fit the bait which is perfect. It creates an "X" if you will to nestle my hook through and I avoid the parallel hook that I'm not a fan of. Might just be a confidence thing but I never liked the parallel hook.
Very effective idea. I posted this technique with pictures on this link here:
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/9471-wacky-rigging-my-way/
I like it because you can orientate the hook any way you like. And it's clear, so you do not detract from the basic Senko color pattern. That may or may not be a good thing, but it's something that gives me more confidence.
On 3/30/2014 at 2:53 AM, Sam said:No. I use shrink tubing which works great.
I set up my Senkos before heading out and so far I have caught 10 largemouths on one Senko using the shrink tubing.
Shrink tubing works MUCH better for me.
I guess I can see why a tool is needed if you are using 1/4" I.D. O-Rings. Most senko type baits have an O.D. Of .375" +/- .015". If you use 5/16"' (.312"), 8.5 MM (.340") or 3/8" (.375") just wet the pointed end and slide it on. I can see how you could tear up a senko trying to squeeze on a 1/4" O-Ring on it.
Also, I've posted several times before that I use two and cross them and inert the hook through where they cross so it is 90 degrees to the bait. Works for me and everyone else I have shown it to. But as always, use whatever you have confidence in and you will be better off.