Tackle shelves,slim pickings 2024
bassheel reply :
I know most fish in the warmer months and it maybe tough to keep the shelves stocked but come on folks. Went to BPS ( which is rare,prices too high) and was looking for a certain hook. Low in behold they were totally out of gammy hooks. I'm not saying a certain size but not one pack on the shelf. Academy does a little better in my area but they are low as well. Anyone in retail can explain why the stock remains so low during the period when it's needed the most?
fishballer06 reply :
Big chains like a BPS likely only place an order with a manufacturer or distributor once every so often. If they sell out before that time to order again comes, then you will see empty shelves. Sucks as a consumer, but that's the way most big chains do things.
TOXIC reply :
Having represented many sponsors in BPS and being pro-staff with them for 15 years, they have an internal distribution system. Their corporate buyers order product from the manufacturers and it is then stored in centralized locations for shipment to the individual stores. The employees of the stores place orders to the distribution center for their store. Products are then dispersed according to sales numbers and product movement. In short, there is a "pecking order" for which stores get first dibs on available product. Those facts aside, "name brand" products that are not BPS "store brand" are in much shorter supply for distribution. Profit margin is much higher on BPS branded products so naturally, there is much more of that available for order and why you won't see the latest and greatest in the retail stores as well as smaller local manufacturers. Stores used to have the option to buy specific products directly from the manufacturers and have it drop shipped to their location but I don't know if this practice still exists.
Probably much more than you wanted to know but that is how it works.
187yak reply :
Same thing here. Watermelon red Yamamotos can only be found at bps here.
Choporoz reply :
I don't know about Mebane, but the few times I was in N.C., I was quite impressed with the non big-box brick and mortars; the mom and pops. I have zero mom and pops around here and I still won't go near a BPS. Hopefully, you've got some good local tackle shops nearby.
Big Rick reply :
On 6/19/2019 at 8:24 PM, bassheel said:Anyone in retail can explain why the stock remains so low during the period when it's needed the most?
It's that darn tariff on Mexico......????
WRB reply :
Wonder why TW is doing so good? BPS can’t react to customers needs when needed.
Toxic explained how big box stores do buying centrally for price discounts and drop ship regionally to their stores.
Mom and Pop stores buy from local distributors at higher whole sale cost and replace items as needed at minimum qty’s. TW is similar to Mom and Pop without the retail store overhead.
For a retail fishing store to run out of terminal tackle is like a gas station running out of regular gasoline.
Tom
BassWhole! reply :
On 6/19/2019 at 8:24 PM, bassheel said:Anyone in retail can explain why the stock remains so low during the period when it's needed the most?
Ah, first sales taxes, and now purchasing and inventory control. I'll give it a crack,
Can't speak specifically to the merchants mentioned, but there are several reasons why items can be out of stock.
-In the case of large multi location national chains, purchasing is often centralized and store inventory controlled at HQ where the individual store has little or no control.
-Other stores purchase seasonally, based on past performance, or what the Magic 8 Ball® recommends, and do not restock.
-Yet others package or "kit" inventory items, and they restock as a bundle, so they'll end up with a lot of what doesn't sell, and empty pins for the popular stuff.
The Mom and Pop shops that were on the ball and knew what their customers used, and kept it replenished, either went out of business or died.
fin reply :
It seems like Academy only restocks fishing supplies once a year. They have new products come in throughout the year, but I think they only restock in the early spring. They used to have a deal where they would ship an out of stock item to your home with no shipping charge. I don't know if they still do that.
The future of local retail is bleak. People are really going to regret killing off their option to buy local.
Derek1 reply :
On 6/20/2019 at 7:35 AM, fin said:It seems like Academy only restocks fishing supplies once a year. They have new products come in throughout the year, but I think they only restock in the early spring. They used to have a deal where they would ship an out of stock item to your home with no shipping charge. I don't know if they still do that.
The future of local retail is bleak. People are really going to regret killing off their option to buy local.
On 6/20/2019 at 7:35 AM, fin said:The future of local retail is bleak. People are really going to regret killing off their option to buy local. I aggre
I don’t know how I did that but I agree.
FishingGeekTX reply :
That's the plight of brick and mortar. Take the time to drive there, walk to back of store, be ignored by kids working there, only to find they are out of stock.
Only good news is that you may be able to check stock online, or possibly call and get them to check inventory for you, before making the trip? A hassle I know.
I do tackle warehouse these days usually, and I spend a lot more time, and money buying stuff I don't need too 
But even they seem to run out of key things. After someone really promotes a lure or wins a tournament with one, all good colors sell out. I couldn't get a Cavitron Buzzbait, a Fork swimbait, or a loomis nrx last order..all out. I clicked the "email me when you get it in", so there is that I suppose.
basseditor reply :
When I find stuff locally I use, I buy it all.
but I buy more online
my garage has more tackle then the Cabela’s down the street.
ImThatGuy reply :
I cannot justify a 45 min drive to my local BPS. Last time I went, only house brand hooks in stock and spotty inventory selection. Online customer experience has surpassed big box stores experience. And for what I would pay in gas, shipping cost easily covered. Not to mention they seem to only want to push their house brands.
I asked why so much was out of stock, and they told me they hold stock replnishment a few weeks before inventory counts. No surprise they try to keep inventory lean, it is an unfortunate pressure for all publicly traded retailers. But taken too far, brick and mortar stores will not survive.
Brew City Bass reply :
I pretty much boycott any major tackle shops like BPS or Cabelas.
Every d**n time they just happen to be out of what I go for, and then when I ask for help on what I am looking for I get every employee trying to up-sell me on some ***.
Just last week I went to Cabelas for a new Garmin sonar. I told the guy exactly what I wanted, and that their website said they had it in-stock at this store. Right away he pointed me towards the Garmin live-scope and told me this is what I wanted. I became livid and told him that he has no clue what I want, and what I want is in this store and he should grab me it before I grab the manager and ***** all night long. What a surprise, the product was in my hands within 2 minutes, but not without some grumbling and arguing.
It's sickening what stores like those have become. Back when I could walk in, every shelf stocked, associates helpful and plentiful, I'd spend thousands there every spring. Now days they might get a few hundred bucks from me a year because all I can count on is them is providing me sub-par customer support, shady sales tactics, and lies from employees. It's basically an emergency if I go there.
****, I'd rather shop at Walmart for my stuff most of the time. At least there I won't have some "sponsored" man-child who lives in their moms basement making $12.00 an hour and 1% commission trying to up-sell me an extra $2,000 every time I go.
MN Fisher reply :
On 6/20/2019 at 11:22 AM, Brew City Bass said:I pretty much boycott any major tackle shops like BPS or Cabelas.
The only 'brick and mortar' store I go to is the last remaining local bait shop in my area - Wayzata Bait and Tackle. DSG lost my business long ago for trying to 'downsell' me to their home brand instead of what I wanted to get. Closest BPS is a 4 hour drive each way, closest Cabelas is 45 minutes each way in good traffic - double that for rush hour.
I still shop BPS and Cabelas...online only, some of their stuff is better and less expensive than the name brands IMO.
FishTank reply :
Unfortunately, there are no tackle shops around Indianapolis anymore. They have all gone out of business.
There is a DSG around the corner from me and they do OK on stocking lures but they have cut the amount of items/sku's in half and no reels or rods that draw my interest.
There is a Cabelas about 30min away and it is sort of depressing. They have a lot of high priced junk these days. Every time I have been there, there are always customers asking for the things they don't carry..... a better, higher end reel than the Curado or the Tutula, Megabass Lures, G. Loomis GLX rods, etc. The sales guys end up apologizing and the business ends up going out the door. They have $50,000 boats but no reels above $200 (except maybe the Curado DC). Can't figure it out.
Brew City Bass reply :
On 6/20/2019 at 11:42 AM, FishTank said:Unfortunately, there are no tackle shops around Indianapolis anymore. They have all gone out of business.
There is a DSG around the corner from me and they do OK on stocking lures but they have cut the amount of items/sku's in half and no reels or rods that draw my interest.
There is a Cabelas about 30min away and it is sort of depressing. They have a lot of high priced junk these days. Every time I have been there, there are always customers asking for the things they don't carry..... a better, higher end reel than the Curado or the Tutula, Megabass Lures, G. Loomis GLX rods, etc. The sales guys end up apologizing and the business ends up going out the door. They have $50,000 boats but no reels above $200 (except maybe the Curado DC). Can't figure it out.
I understand it, it's because they don't make their money off the 1% of hardcore fishermen who are willing to spend mad money on lures and gear. It just upsets me.
Bluebasser86 reply :
I actually heard a rumor that BPS wasn't going to carry Gamakatsu anymore. I was in the one in Olathe last week and checked with the intention of buying another pack of drop shot hooks but there was almost no Gamakatsu hooks stocked, just empty pegs, so maybe there's some truth to it.
FishTank reply :
On 6/20/2019 at 12:00 PM, Brew City Bass said:I understand it, it's because they don't make their money off the 1% of hardcore fishermen who are willing to spend mad money on lures and gear. It just upsets me.
That's just it.... This Cabelas has a pretty good staff and they are serious fisherman that seemed to be well versed in their product but the stocking of the store makes no sense. For example... The last time I was there a guy wanted a Lowrance Elite 7ti 2 with the higher end transducer. They had the unit but no universal mounting bracket for his console. He was also wanting a St. Croix Legend Tournament rod and a Shimano Bantam. It would have been over $2000 all together but he left without buying anything.
Happybeerbuzz reply :
I buy from BPS occasionally. No brick and mortar store can stock everything or a practical infinite supply of anything. It just isn’t possible in this age of excessive choices. BPS is no exception. What I do is use their free delivery to store option. I find that my California location is, on average, 9 days away from me ordering to me being able to pick up. That might give some indication about why they have such long stock outages.
pauldconyers reply :
On 6/20/2019 at 12:14 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I actually heard a rumor that BPS wasn't going to carry Gamakatsu anymore. I was in the one in Olathe last week and checked with the intention of buying another pack of drop shot hooks but there was almost no Gamakatsu hooks stocked, just empty pegs, so maybe there's some truth to it.
It's because Saturday I CLEANED THAT STORE OUT!!! No, but I waas there Saturday and wanted to check out their straight shank gammy hooks and saw all the white tags hanging.
Dwbassin reply :
The ONLY thing I buy from BPS or Cabelas anymore is clearance items or panfish baits. I’ve gotten really picky with what I like now. I know it’s subject to change but most that I’ve been to don’t carry what I like using and it costs substantially more. Dicks has dang good sales this time of year so I’ll buy some senkos and topwater there and Trokar hooks. I buy my bitsy bugs at wal mart. Other than that I have 2 online retailers and that’s all I’ve needed. People nailed it with the customer service. It’s all what they like or what they sell the most of at the 3 I’ve been at lately. Honestly, this one kid I met that worked at my old local bps just told me their is really nothing here worth buying. They had the old ducketts on sale and I asked him why he hadn’t bought any. Said look at the sign, we have to put a sign up cause of returns. He was THE ONLY honest one I had. Now there is a local shop off 50 called anglers inn. Everyone there is passionate anglers, some prices are compatible to online. Some are 2-5 bucks more. It sucks when tw is out, but I think they do very well for as much as they out through. It’s only the baits of the month that go out, I usually never have a problem ordering what I want. Sept early spring the most important time of year
frogflogger reply :
dsg is the only chain I go to anymore - but it's a long drive - tw gets most of my business
TOXIC reply :
Also keep in mind that the big box stores are really aimed at the "casual" fisherman/women/kids and not those that are more "accomplished" and know what they want. If you look at the demographics of the individual stores you would see that they make the bulk of their sales to the casual or novice fisherman. No one can argue that they have been very successful at what they do. If they don't make $$ on the more experienced fishermen then they are not going to stock the product that caters to them. They are not dumb and I would wager they are making a pretty good profit with the way their stores are set up. I had a friend who owned a tackle store close to a Bass Pro location and he loved it. He carried everything that BPS didn't and had baits specifically proven on the local waters.
EWREX reply :
BPS is awful and literally my last resort if something is 100% needed that they have when other's don't (which is very rare in itself).
Choporoz reply :
I agree with all, @TOXIC
But, what saddens me is that their success relates very directly to the demise of those mom and pops that gladly catered to experienced fishermen....those that continued to be willing to pay the premium for the service and community offered
Koz reply :
My nearest BPS is an hour drive but the few times I have gone there they did have sizeable inventory on just about everything. We do have a local DSG, but it's 1/2 to 1/3 the size of the traditional DSG. There were a few times when I went looking for a bait that they did not have in stock and they immediately paced orders for them and I had them within the week. Occasionally I order from TW and will probably do that again when I add to my rods and reels.
Since I bank fish and backpack it I stay pretty lean with the amount of baits that I have and don't have boxes or racks of baits sitting in the garage and other than soft plastics I don't double or triple up on baits. It works for me.
BassWhole! reply :
On 6/20/2019 at 9:46 PM, EWREX said:...is awful and literally my last resort if something is 100% needed that they have when other's don't
Yes, exactly, now, if you turn around 180º and view this from the retailer's point of view, it makes perfect sense to keep a small inventory priced at (or above) MSRP of the items "the enthusiast" will come in looking for, while catering to the actual customers. We do bikes, and this is our strategy. Makes for interesting Yelp reviews, but makes $. Chasing sales at the expense of profits has led many small sporting goods retailers to go out of business.
EWREX reply :
On 6/21/2019 at 1:03 AM, BassWhole! said:Yes, exactly, now, if you turn around 180º and view this from the retailer's point of view, it makes perfect sense to keep a small inventory priced at (or above) MSRP of the items "the enthusiast" will come in looking for, while catering to the actual customers. We do bikes, and this is our strategy. Makes for interesting Yelp reviews, but makes $. Chasing sales at the expense of profits has led many small sporting goods retailers to go out of business.
i'm very lucky and live in the same town as tackle supply depot. they do run out of item's often (because they are the premier tackle shop in the area, and cater to the avid bass angler) but re-stock very fast. i can order online and pickup locally, or just visit the store and buy while i am there.
yosef reply :
On 6/20/2019 at 12:14 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I actually heard a rumor that BPS wasn't going to carry Gamakatsu anymore. I was in the one in Olathe last week and checked with the intention of buying another pack of drop shot hooks but there was almost no Gamakatsu hooks stocked, just empty pegs, so maybe there's some truth to it.
The one in hooksett nh was out of every Gamakatsu hook they carried but then again they were out of stock on most hooks anyways last week when I was there
Fishes in trees reply :
I think that it is important to patronize brick & mortar stores, if we don't, they go away, and then where would I be when I just want to walk up and down the aisles and look and not buy stuff today? I feel fortunate that in the KC Metro area we have Rogers, which is a very good fishing/hunting oriented store. I use on-line stores as a last resort, mainly because I'm not thrilled about putting fishing purchases on credit card - IMO fishing purchases should come out of immediately disposable income and not future income. But I make exceptions and I am frequently weak and undisciplined when it comes to tackle purchases.
flyfisher reply :
So at what point do mom & pop shops become too large and everyone boycotts them because they want to "stick it to the man" like many posts on this thread? If i recall, BPS was started in the back of another retail establishment and grew to what we know it as today.
There is a local shop near me that i patronize for most of my lures but they don't carry some stuff I like so i get them either online or BPS. I don't really care about customer service in a store like BPS because I generally go to get something specific and know what I want to get. I also don't have an issue with a salesperson trying to upsell me on a product if I have intentions of something else. I can listen to what they have to say and maybe change my mind and if not so be it. Now if they continue to get pushy then I may have an issue but they have a job to do and I have been on that side of the retail fence before too.
Bottom line is I buy stuff from wherever I feel like and the majority is online these days anyways because of convenience. I have never been to thrilled with TW prices but their selection is top notch. Seems like the few items i just checked that bass pro and TW are the same price.
diversity210 reply :
In my area the big chain sporting stores are the go to. Bass Pro Shop and outdoorsportsman. A lot of time it is hard to find the exact bait or tackle you are looking for in the bigger stores. They do seem to cater more to casual fisherman who might know what they are doing but arent so technical that they are looking for a specific hook in a specific brand. Around here where I live its hard to come by the gamagatsu 1/0 - 5/0 wide gap hooks because its what everyone buys. Also Zman baits seem to be fairly sparse around here. Mom and pop stores seems to be the way a lot of people go in the south and the south east but here mom and pop stores are literal holes in the wall with very slim pickings. Ultimately I end up ordering what I need online so I always take and inventory of what I need after my last fishing trip to prepare for the next.
Retail stores in general have just gotten really sub par these days. I think so many have turned to online shopping that retail is still struggling to trying and keep up. What amazes me is walking in a store and looking for something that even the most novice of anglers would know about because its so popular and am told they dont carry it. Not its not in stock, but they just dont carry it. Seems to happen a lot. Now correct me if I am wrong but it wouldn't it be a smart tactic for a struggling retail store to stock the newest and most popular items? Apparently stores dont think so. Bass pro usually has a lot of the more well known tackle but they are also starting to fall out of favor with me, because every time I walk in the store it seems like they have replaced more brand names for their own branded product. Now bass pro shop has a lot of great branded products but most of the time Im looking for tried and true specific product. Not bass pro shop brand
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