Howdy Folks,
I am looking for input on swinging jig heads.
The primary use would be for 3-3.5" crawls.
I have been using regular jigs and bullet weights, but was wondering if I should be considering the Swing weights.
Thanks for any input
Al
Bass Patrol Deflection Jigs from TW. 2-pack for $4. It has a recessed line-tie, and it's a good value. VMC hooks. I tend to leave quite a few of these in the Mississippi River rocks, so I appreciate the price.
Biffle Hardheads are a good choice if you're not digging them into sharp rocks. It doesn't have a recessed line-tie. 2-pack for $5. They have Owner hooks and chip-resistant paint, not that the paint matters much.
I really like the Owner Pivot Head in 1/8th oz. size. It comes in both an EWG and a straight shank. I prefer the latter.
No, though it is advertised as a superior swim jig creating extra wiggle and action, I like to fish it on the bottom with a worm that has a floating tail. I hop it around like a T-Rigged worm.
I can't say why but if feels totally different to me than a true T-Rigged worm with a nose weight. Softer, I guess. It also seems not to hang up as much.
Brad
Edited by Brad in TexasI'm in the fence, personally. I've used them, I've caught fish on them. But I also feel that I could have caught the same fish swimming a jig on the bottom. It's worth a shot honestly, they're pretty inexpensive as a trial run. Can't hurt.
On 8/21/2018 at 10:11 PM, BassThumb said:Bass Control Deflection Jigs from TW. 2-pack for $4. It has a recessed line-tie, and it's a good value. VMC hooks. I tend to leave quite a few of these in the Mississippi River rocks, so I appreciate the price.
Biffle Hardheads are a good choice if you're not digging them into sharp rocks. It doesn't have a recessed line-tie. 2-pack for $5. They have Owner hooks and chip-resistant paint, not that the paint matters much.
It's Bass Patrol, not Bass Control...beyond that, I concur totally. Rigged with a Rage craw is one of our favorite presentations. Don't be afraid to experiment with retrieve speed...sometimes faster is more effective than crawling...just remember to use a heavy enough weight to maintain bottom contact.
I'm not sure who makes them but there are some on the market where you can change out the hook if you need a bigger or smaller hook depending on what you want to use.
On 8/22/2018 at 9:02 AM, Log Catcher said:I'm not sure who makes them but there are some on the market where you can change out the hook if you need a bigger or smaller hook depending on what you want to use.
the Punisher - Hail Mary is one that comes to mind
I have molds for them and have made all sizes from 1/8 oz to 1 oz. With hooks from 1/0 to 5/0. I have not found them to be any great addition to my arsenal. I have been thinking about selling my molds as I just don't use the swing jig very often because where I fish Ned, shaky, and Trigs will out produce them.
I have tried a biffle hardhead, with mixed results. I'll probably stick with other things. It's a great concept, just doesn't really work for me
Swinging football heads are one of my favorite ways to present a plastic bait. I make them from 1/8oz with a 2/0 EWG short shank up to a 7/0 monster worm hook. I've even made them with a straight shank hook and flipped with them. Dragging a beaver or brush hog on a 1/4oz head accounts for large number of fish for me each season.
Try these...https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Dirty_Jigs_Pivot_Point_Football_Jig_2pk/descpage-DRTYPVT.html. If they're good enough for Matt Allen of Tactical Bassin' then they're certainly good enough for me :).
I really like them. Don't limit yourself to just craw/beaver baits. Clint Davis just won the forest wood cup dragging one rigged with a big worm through brush piles.
On 8/22/2018 at 9:01 PM, Brett's_daddy said:Try these...https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Dirty_Jigs_Pivot_Point_Football_Jig_2pk/descpage-DRTYPVT.html. If they're good enough for Matt Allen of Tactical Bassin' then they're certainly good enough for me :).
i like me some Dirty Jigs too ????
I like Larew's best -- they come through laydowns better than any others I've tried.
I like swingheads and catch on them, but they seem to hang up way way more often then a jig or t-rig. Cover and bottom compasition does not seem to matter. I wish I had access to an underwater camera so I can see whats going on, I cant figure it out.
On 8/22/2018 at 9:02 AM, Log Catcher said:I'm not sure who makes them but there are some on the market where you can change out the hook if you need a bigger or smaller hook depending on what you want to use.
Freedom Tackle
https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Freedom_Tackle_Hybrid_Football_Jig_Heads_2pk/descpage-FREER.html
I credit a member here (smalljaw67) for teaching me everything I have learned about fishing swing jig heads :
*Think of as a crank bait substitute crashing into bottom structure with a hard , abrupt deflection.
*Need a heavy action , extra fast tip bait cast rod to get that hard , rapid jig deflection without the rod loading up .
*Bait Cast reel of 6:3:1 is fine.
*A low stretch , abrasion resistant co-poly or FC line is best (I use Spider Wire #14 lb. Ultimate Mono)
*Jig head weights of 1/4th oz. ~ 3/8th oz. get used the most .
*You want enough weight for bottom contact with structure but not so much that it digs too deeply into the bottom.
*For trailers use Craws , Beavers , Creature and even worms in Green Pumpkin , Watermelon Red , Junebug and Black & Blue colors work well.
There may be other ways to use a swing jig head , however above is how I use it effectively ... Google : "Tommy Biffle - Biffle Bugging and Hard Head System" for more details ... *Smalljaw67 probably taught Tommy Biffle all he knows about the swing jig headfor bass as well (lol) !
I want to try some myself I just need to find someone that can pour them. Gama 744 2/0 hook on a 3/16 and 1/4oz heads.
Allen
Get the mustad fastach heads and put whatever hook you want on it.
I fell in love last fall with the Freedom Tackle Stealth Swim Jig head.
Hung a 4/0 Gamakatsu EWG and a Rage Bug on it - and it was doing work on the fat fall smallies here.
Picked up this season right where it left off - in fact I caught some fish on it today.
A-Jay
Strike King Swinging Swim Jig with Trokar EWG
I'll cast it, swim it, flip it, & pitch it!
On 8/22/2018 at 9:31 PM, bagofdonuts said:I really like them. Don't limit yourself to just craw/beaver baits. Clint Davis just won the forest wood cup dragging one rigged with a big worm through brush piles.
I pour some specifically for fishing big straight tail worms. I'm normally using them in shallower water and lots of rocks so I pour an 1/8oz head with a 7/0 Gama Monster Worm hook. The weight and worms glides over rocks without getting snagged and that big hook fishes those 8-11 inch worms without any problems.
I use Strike King Jointed Structure Heads, Eco-Pro Tungsten Free Football Jig, and Owner Pivot Heads. The Eco Pros are tungsten and I prefer them for that and you can swap hooks, the Owners I like because they’re just on a swinging head with the hook linked on a split ring, so I replace my hooks, I like the Strike King for heavier cover!
I never tried them, but have wanted to. Just afraid they'll get caught up too much and will be harder to detect a bite on.
On 9/7/2018 at 1:10 PM, FishDewd said:I never tried them, but have wanted to. Just afraid they'll get caught up too much and will be harder to detect a bite on.
It's the opposite actually. The head gets snagged less in rocks and it's easier to detect bites because the weight is directly connected to the hook.
On 8/22/2018 at 9:02 AM, Log Catcher said:I'm not sure who makes them but there are some on the market where you can change out the hook if you need a bigger or smaller hook depending on what you want to use.
I use this Strike king football swing head.
https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Strike_King_Tour_Grade_Tungsten_Swing_Football_Head/descpage-SKTGTSH.html
On 9/9/2018 at 2:10 PM, Bluebasser86 said:It's the opposite actually. The head gets snagged less in rocks and it's easier to detect bites because the weight is directly connected to the hook.
What about wood, tree roots, overhangs, etc? That's more the conditions I have here.
On 9/10/2018 at 8:37 AM, FishDewd said:What about wood, tree roots, overhangs, etc? That's more the conditions I have here.
I flip them in trees a lot and they do well. It depends on the trees really. If there's lots of splits and cracks in the woods they will hang, otherwise they do well for me. I pour my own so I can be a little more brazen with mine.
I just started using the strike king 1/2 oz tungsten. I like that I can change the hook. A 4/0 ewg seems to be good so far. Drug around the sk rage craw mostly by plan on trying out some other baits. Figure Matt Allen did all the work already so I will rock his top picks before I go crazy. Might roll a keitech 4.4 just for kicks.