So yesterday I bought a really cool Senile crank bait, but later I realized it was a saltwater lure! I fish freshwater will it still catch fish? Please help me the lure was $14!
You can get lucky with it, it's not like freshwater fish snub their nose to lures for different areas. I have seen musky caught on saltwater lures many times. If you can return it and want to, do so. If not take it as a challenge and fish it!
A senile crankbait seems like an easy meal for a hungry bass. I'd keep it.
For what it's worth if it's between 1/4" and 8", it'll probably catch bass.
I'll have to side with snakehead whisperer on this one it would be an easy target
I use a couple Salt top water for bass. Go for it.. see what you can produce with it. Fun and interesting challenge..
Good Post!
I used some Gulp Mullet for flounder that I felt would really take a bass. They smelled like a can of sardines. They were good enough to fool flounder.
Do mean Sebile?On 6/6/2015 at 3:09 AM, Adleyfishes said:So yesterday I bought a really cool Senile crank bait, but later I realized it was a saltwater lure! I fish freshwater will it still catch fish? Please help me the lure was $14!
Most salt water lures will have 2X or 3X SST or tin plated hooks, I would change those with same size Owner stinger fresh water treble hooks.
Scrounger started out as a salt water surf lure, white bucktail jigs and a lot of spoons are used in both fresh and salt water.
Tom
I may be wrong here but if memory serves me correctly Stanley Mitchell won a bassmaster classic on a salt water spoon .
Bass will eat almost anything if they are feeding.
On 6/6/2015 at 6:06 AM, scaleface said:I may be wrong here but if memory serves me correctly Stanley Mitchell won a bassmaster classic on a salt water spoon .
It was the Luhr Jenson Krocodile Spoon.
Iv`e been doing the cross over thing for 25 yrs +
Fresh for salt and vs versa. If it has the right size and movement it does not matter what label is on it.
C22
On 6/6/2015 at 8:19 AM, Catch 22 said:Iv`e been doing the cross over thing for 25 yrs +
Fresh for salt and vs versa. If it has the right size and movement it does not matter what label is on it.
C22
Me too.
A spoon is a spoon, lure is a lure,and a jig is jig, any fish will hit them in any venue. I have caught tarpon on 1/2 oz bucktails and bass on 6" windcheaters. I don't really fish for bass much different than any other species.
Bass have no idea it's made for saltwater. If it looks like something they could/should eat, one is going to try to eat it at some point.
We won a tournament by going to Berkeley gulp ripple mullet.... Thats a saltwater bait.
I don't think the fish can read so it's probably not too big an issue....
Recently picked up a 2lb pea on a mirrolure catch 22. I was twitching it right along the shoreline and the little guy almost swam onto the bank to get it.
I've often used certain freshwater lures in saltwater, and certain saltwater lures in freshwater.
But the problem with using saltwater lures in freshwater is that you're paying extra for non-corrosive hardware
& stainless steel hooks that you really don't need. Inversely, when you use freshwater lures in saltwater
the next time you open your tackle box, your freshwater lures will exhibit rapid corrosion (not too pretty).
Roger
Two of my favorite topwaters for bass are salt water versions. The ChugBug is a killer night fishing version. I just switch out the hooks, though the first time I tried one and caught a bass it was with the original salt water hooks.
I don't replace hooks until they need to be changed, if I'm using a sw lure in fresh I use it as is. I don't often use a freshwater lure in the salt, I have done but seeing as I own plenty of sw lures there is no reason for me. At replacement time I use 4x hooks, both salt and fresh.
I have little problems with corrosion on any freshwater lure, not the case with salt. I mainly use VMC salt trebles and they corrode, not as fast as freshwater hooks but corrode none the less. Letting them air dry will curtail the process, something I just don't seem to do. Interesting enough my saltwater jigs and jig heads don't seem to corrode like treble hooks (both very cheap items too), now that I think about single it hooks aren't too bad either.
Probably the best company that makes baits you can use in both fresh and saltwater is Lucky Craft , their jerkbaits are good for salt and fresh. Ive caught a 4lb halibut on a surf pointer 115 mr and ive caught a nice 4lb pre-spawn bass on the same bait. The world record for surf perch was caught on a lucky craft here in ventura.
Another great company that makes baits you can use in both fresh and saltwater is Big Hammer baits. They have a bait called "ring hammer" in sexy shad or in red pumpkin that ive destoryed using on alabama rig. also caught corbina and jacksmelt in saltwater on the same bait.
big hammer make great swimbait tails that are great for both.
Ive also caught rock bass and calico bass and halibut on a megabass vision 110, and that's a fresh water bait.
Now recently i tried carolina rigging a freshwater soft jerkbait and just fricking killed it using it in saltwater.
Ive done much experimenting with trying to use freshwater in saltwater , and ill say that roboworm don't work in saltwater , neither do any craw imitation bait, nor any lizards so far.
I live 5 minutes from the pacific right near some great inshore fishing, as well as fishing arond the channel islands. I also live next to Casitas and Castaic, pretty much im in fishing heaven all within short distance from me.
Big fish eat smaller fish both in fresh and saltwater. If the lure is smaller than the fish you are targeting, chances are it will try to eat it. I wouldn't worry about the hooks, they are better than the hooks you would find on a lure specifically designed for FW.
Heck after seeing the sizes of some of the swimbaits that are used for bass, I'm thinking of trying some of the 6 and 8" Danny swimmers I used for stripers in the night surf.
On 6/7/2015 at 2:35 PM, SirSnookalot said:I don't replace hooks until they need to be changed, if I'm using a sw lure in fresh I use it as is. I don't often use a freshwater lure in the salt, I have done but seeing as I own plenty of sw lures there is no reason for me. At replacement time I use 4x hooks, both salt and fresh.
I have little problems with corrosion on any freshwater lure, not the case with salt. I mainly use VMC salt trebles and they corrode, not as fast as freshwater hooks but corrode none the less. Letting them air dry will curtail the process, something I just don't seem to do. Interesting enough my saltwater jigs and jig heads don't seem to corrode like treble hooks (both very cheap items too), now that I think about single it hooks aren't too bad either.
I replaced standard hooks on SW lures with VMC 9626 (I believe) hooks. I've used them for years. I rinse them off with freshwater after use and have had no problems with corrosion. I'd replace the hooks at the end of the season, so maybe thats why I never experienced any issues.
On 6/7/2015 at 6:42 PM, Slade House said:Probably the best company that makes baits you can use in both fresh and saltwater is Lucky Craft , their jerkbaits are good for salt and fresh. Ive caught a 4lb halibut on a surf pointer 115 mr and ive caught a nice 4lb pre-spawn bass on the same bait. The world record for surf perch was caught on a lucky craft here in ventura.
Another great company that makes baits you can use in both fresh and saltwater is Big Hammer baits. They have a bait called "ring hammer" in sexy shad or in red pumpkin that ive destoryed using on alabama rig. also caught corbina and jacksmelt in saltwater on the same bait.
big hammer make great swimbait tails that are great for both.
Ive also caught rock bass and calico bass and halibut on a megabass vision 110, and that's a fresh water bait.
Now recently i tried carolina rigging a freshwater soft jerkbait and just fricking killed it using it in saltwater.
Ive done much experimenting with trying to use freshwater in saltwater , and ill say that roboworm don't work in saltwater , neither do any craw imitation bait, nor any lizards so far.
I live 5 minutes from the pacific right near some great inshore fishing, as well as fishing arond the channel islands. I also live next to Casitas and Castaic, pretty much im in fishing heaven all within short distance from me.
They would for snook.
On 6/7/2015 at 2:35 PM, SirSnookalot said:I don't replace hooks until they need to be changed, if I'm using a sw lure in fresh I use it as is. I don't often use a freshwater lure in the salt, I have done but seeing as I own plenty of sw lures there is no reason for me. At replacement time I use 4x hooks, both salt and fresh.
I have little problems with corrosion on any freshwater lure, not the case with salt. I mainly use VMC salt trebles and they corrode, not as fast as freshwater hooks but corrode none the less. Letting them air dry will curtail the process, something I just don't seem to do. Interesting enough my saltwater jigs and jig heads don't seem to corrode like treble hooks (both very cheap items too), now that I think about single it hooks aren't too bad either.
In saltwater, I use a lot of cadmium-plated hooks, which I know you're familiar with.
They hold up really well in the brine and are cheaper than SS, which I avoid.
Roger
Carolina Rig a Rage Shrimp. Ridicule every Bass you catch by calling them "Redfish wannabes!"
On 6/7/2015 at 10:18 PM, SirSnookalot said:They would for snook.
Lizards or craw style baits? to tell you the truth i haven't tried using lizards too much. then again the fish in caifornia arent the brightest when you compare them to snook
Soft plastic swimbaits got their start in salt water and very popular in the 60's out west. I don't know who was first with a swimming style sassy shad type tail, maybe Smitty's kelp kritter late 60's we used for calico bass.
Worm King had a line of salt water swimmers before making rainbow trout dinosaurs in 12" & 16" sizes early 80's. Swimbaits started in the salt and moved to fresh water.
The fresh water swimmers for general use was Mister Twister's Saasy Shad as I recall, the west coast trophy bass hunters kept the salt water stuff under the radar.
Tom
On 6/7/2015 at 6:42 PM, Slade House said:Probably the best company that makes baits you can use in both fresh and saltwater is Lucky Craft , their jerkbaits are good for salt and fresh. Ive caught a 4lb halibut on a surf pointer 115 mr and ive caught a nice 4lb pre-spawn bass on the same bait. The world record for surf perch was caught on a lucky craft here in ventura.
Another great company that makes baits you can use in both fresh and saltwater is Big Hammer baits. They have a bait called "ring hammer" in sexy shad or in red pumpkin that ive destoryed using on alabama rig. also caught corbina and jacksmelt in saltwater on the same bait.
big hammer make great swimbait tails that are great for both.
Ive also caught rock bass and calico bass and halibut on a megabass vision 110, and that's a fresh water bait.
Now recently i tried carolina rigging a freshwater soft jerkbait and just fricking killed it using it in saltwater.
Ive done much experimenting with trying to use freshwater in saltwater , and ill say that roboworm don't work in saltwater , neither do any craw imitation bait, nor any lizards so far.
I live 5 minutes from the pacific right near some great inshore fishing, as well as fishing arond the channel islands. I also live next to Casitas and Castaic, pretty much im in fishing heaven all within short distance from me.
Trust me, many a Calico, Sandy, and Spottie have fell victim to Worms, Craws, Lizards, etc. I have run the gamut of fresh water lures through salt water and many bass and various other species have chewed on a variety of soft plastics and hard baits. Keep on throwing a wide variety of baits and you might be surprised what they want to chew on for any given day.
On 6/8/2015 at 4:30 AM, WRB said:Soft plastic swimbaits got their start in salt water and very popular in the 60's out west. I don't know who was first with a swimming style sassy shad type tail, maybe Smitty's kelp kritter late 60's we used for calico bass.
Worm King had a line of salt water swimmers before making rainbow trout dinosaurs in 12" & 16" sizes early 80's. Swimbaits started in the salt and moved to fresh water.
The fresh water swimmers for general use was Mister Twister's Saasy Shad as I recall, the west coast trophy bass hunters kept the salt water stuff under the radar.
Tom
I bought two Vivifs when I was a teen in the late 60's out of a magazine. They had a swimming tail.
On 6/7/2015 at 11:18 PM, Slade House said:Lizards or craw style baits? to tell you the truth i haven't tried using lizards too much. then again the fish in caifornia arent the brightest when you compare them to snook
I do a lot of inshore saltwater fishing, most fish I encounter will hit almost anything. Not a doubt in my mind I could catch many species using a lizard or a craw. With the exception of a few species I don't need anything but a spoon, top water or a bucktail jig, I learned that after spending hundreds of dollars. Good snook fishermen I know put a flair hawk on and never take it off. I'm real big on barracuda fishing, we make our lures from surgical tubing, going thru the water a 10" worm is going to have a real similar look to it. A cuda would jump all over it, that worm is not ideal as it won't withstand a cuda strike. That freshwater worm can be put on a beat up bucktail as a trailer, now you have a primo tarpon and snook lure.
I can take just about any freshwater lure and catch saltwater fish with it.
To answer a question why we use different lures, the primary reason is to just do something different, the fish don't really care.
Thanks! Helped a ton I will see what I get!
This is awesome thanks!
On 6/6/2015 at 3:52 AM, WPCfishing said:I use a couple Salt top water for bass. Go for it.. see what you can produce with it. Fun and interesting challenge..
Good Post!
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