Are these baits a Ned Rig 2025
cgolf reply :
With the Ned a Rig talk ramping up again, I am curious to get everyone's opinion on if the baits/flies in the picture are a Ned Rig. If you could explain your response either way that would be interesting.
everythingthatswims reply :
Winter will be over soon I promise
cgolf reply :
6 hours ago, everythingthatswims said:Winter will be over soon I promise
Ha ha, this is actually a fly I have had for a few years and have had success with a longer version. I am in the fly fishers version of the bait monkey right now. I was tying up my stock of Senko flies for the year and I accidentally had one end up short which got me thinking. My thought is this fly should be able to be pitched on spinning gear too.
I didn't want to hijack @IndianaFinesse thread about the Ned rig. This thing definately fits the description of a Ned and if it is as warm as they predict this week I am going to try it out. Be interesting to see how durable it will be.
I was actually curious though if if fit the definition lol.
tander reply :
Never seen nothing like that, what are they, wooly buggers? 
cgolf reply :
12 minutes ago, tander said:Never seen nothing like that, what are they, wooly buggers?
The tail is simply furled yarn with a spot of glue on the end to keep it together longer, and then just wrap the yarn to the nose. Stupid simple to tie and I have also done this with Estaz and had great luck too. I have seen it called a furlagig, but to me it is a senko fly.
tholmes reply :
Results are what's important, not names. They either catch fish or they don't. I'm bettin' on the former.
Tom
IndianaFinesse reply :
No, those are fly's. The "Ned rig" is a small soft plastic bait under four inches long that is on a mushroom jig weighing no more than 3/32 ounce with a hook no larger than #2 or #1. Those are some kind of fuzzy fly tied onto what looks like a bitsy flip jig with the skirt taken off. Will those fly's work? Maybe, but they aren't a Ned rig.
cgolf reply :
37 minutes ago, IndianaFinesse said:No, those are fly's. The "Ned rig" is a small soft plastic bait under four inches long that is on a mushroom jig weighing no more than 3/32 ounce with a hook no larger than #2 or #1. Those are some kind of fuzzy fly tied onto what looks like a bitsy flip jig with the skirt taken off. Will those fly's work? Maybe, but they aren't a Ned rig.
I would definitely say midwest finesse as it is not a lot different than the marabou crappie jigs used by Chuck Woods. If I had tied it on a jig head would it have made a difference to you? I thought about tying this on a jighead, but the conehead and wire are essentially a jighead. By the way that is a size #2 hook with a conehead and 5 wraps of lead free wire. I thought I would get nailed for the hook being too big. The whole fly weighs 0.043140055 ounces which I believe works out to roughly 1/23 ounce including the material. It will have to be wet to be castable.
KDW96 reply :
Id give it a good try. Alot of people have just as good luck using round jigheads. So i think yours will work also. The fish will tell you what qualifies. Most people tend to want to bring fish in like the are using heavy gear,then complain about straighten hook. Must have forgot their reel has a drag:) Givem a good try and let us no 
IndianaFinesse reply :
1 hour ago, cgolf said:
I would definitely say midwest finesse as it is not a lot different than the marabou crappie jigs used by Chuck Woods. If I had tied it on a jig head would it have made a difference to you? I thought about tying this on a jighead, but the conehead and wire are essentially a jighead. By the way that is a size #2 hook with a conehead and 5 wraps of lead free wire. I thought I would get nailed for the hook being too big. The whole fly weighs 0.043140055 ounces which I believe works out to roughly 1/23 ounce including the material. It will have to be wet to be castable.
It would fit definitely fit the guidelines for a good Midwest finesse bait, its just not a Ned rig. It used to be that a crapie sized marrabou jig was the standard bearer for midwest finesse fishermen. The size of the hook doesn't necessarily have to be no bigger than a #2, that's just for the Ned. I thought you were asking if it was a Ned rig, I didn't realize that was not your intention. The ned rig is not synonymous with Midwest finesse, it is just a tool that modern midwest finesse anglers employ quite often, but they continue to use other small baits such as hair jigs sometimes as well.
cgolf reply :
8 minutes ago, IndianaFinesse said:It would fit definitely fit the guidelines for a good Midwest finesse bait, its just not a Ned rig. It used to be that a crapie sized marrabou jig was the standard bearer for midwest finesse fishermen. The size of the hook doesn't necessarily have to be no bigger than a #2, that's just for the Ned. I thought you were asking if it was a Ned rig, I didn't realize that was not your intention. They might work well.
Based on the history of how they got to the Ned rig, I was curious the bounds of it. Essentially I am imitating a plastic with another material, so I wasn't 100% sure if it had to be a plastic bait or not to be considered a ned rig. I will fish it the same though. It does look a lot like a TRD or Zinkerz though, so I have high hopes for it this year.
For me flytying is all about imitation with material different than the original getting similar actions, so maybe this becomes the Ned Fly;)
cgolf reply :
45 minutes ago, MickD said:
30-40 cents each, not bad if it gives the action you want. Re the yarn, use synthetics-there are all kinds of synthetics that do not soak up water like most natural yarn materials.
You guys have my interest up, now, so I think I'll try to do a version that will act like a Ned.
http://www.jsflyfishing.com/mcflyfoam-mcflylon
http://www.jsflyfishing.com/wapsi-foam-cylinders
I love the foam cylindars. I used them on the tail of a tube jig fly to get it to stand up under water.
I have also tied this Ned fly with Estaz as well. The estaz Furls nicely and it caught me some nice trout in the fall that were sharing the water with the smallies.
http://www.jsflyfishing.com/glissengloss-estaz-standard-size
This is where the original idea got me going and then someone did it with yarn instead of the estaz
http://www.flytyingforum.com/index.php?showtopic=40807&hl=furl
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